bought some indica. I told the dude about my anxiety and how I don't like being paranoid. He told me he has the same issue, no worries, indica is relaxing ("in da couch"). smoked a bit and was more paranoid right outta the gate than I recall being in a LONG time.
ug, i hate to hear these stories
Not sure what the laws are in your neck of the woods. But pot shops should not be 'prescribing' or offering medical opinion.
I
There are no laws against giving opinions, especially not when asked for them. The guy never claimed to be a doctor.
Weed affects different people differently - it really is just a matter of trial and error until you find what works for you (or to find that weed isn't for you at all). Luckily weed is at least cheap, so this method isn't a massive financial burden, and it's not dangerous either. It's not like bad advice about which strain to try is going to kill anyone.
that's the issue....you can't claim "well, I'm not a doctor"...and then proceed to give what amounts to a medical opinion. Or a specific recommendation for a specific medical issue.
I obviously wasn't there and don't have the context. I'm just saying it's a fine line to walk. Dispensaries are not pharmacies, they don't have the expertise to be giving advice and need to be really careful.
it wasn't a medical opinion. it was his personal experience he was relaying to me, along with his knowledge of what indica USUALLY does to people. nothing more. it was no different than me talking to a buddy.
Cool, so some pregnant lady walks into a dispensary and asks for something to help with her nausea. The dispensary offers some friendly advice on which strains are best. Is that acceptable?
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bought some indica. I told the dude about my anxiety and how I don't like being paranoid. He told me he has the same issue, no worries, indica is relaxing ("in da couch"). smoked a bit and was more paranoid right outta the gate than I recall being in a LONG time.
ug, i hate to hear these stories
Not sure what the laws are in your neck of the woods. But pot shops should not be 'prescribing' or offering medical opinion.
I
There are no laws against giving opinions, especially not when asked for them. The guy never claimed to be a doctor.
Weed affects different people differently - it really is just a matter of trial and error until you find what works for you (or to find that weed isn't for you at all). Luckily weed is at least cheap, so this method isn't a massive financial burden, and it's not dangerous either. It's not like bad advice about which strain to try is going to kill anyone.
that's the issue....you can't claim "well, I'm not a doctor"...and then proceed to give what amounts to a medical opinion. Or a specific recommendation for a specific medical issue.
I obviously wasn't there and don't have the context. I'm just saying it's a fine line to walk. Dispensaries are not pharmacies, they don't have the expertise to be giving advice and need to be really careful.
it wasn't a medical opinion. it was his personal experience he was relaying to me, along with his knowledge of what indica USUALLY does to people. nothing more. it was no different than me talking to a buddy.
Cool, so some pregnant lady walks into a dispensary and asks for something to help with her nausea. The dispensary offers some friendly advice on which strains are best. Is that acceptable?
you're really reaching here.
I didn't go there asking for help with an anxiety, or any other, condition. All I said was 'I prefer products that relax you, as opposed to ones that give you energy". There is actual research on which ones generally do one or the other. They have signs on each strain which activities go with which. he was just relaying that same info. Not sure what your issue is here.
I can't speak for CM, but I can understand where she is coming from a little bit based on the fact that I am pretty annoyed with the psuedo-science and "natural" crowds rising in proportion to the strides made in legal and medical cannabis use. There are people out there claiming cannabis cures all cancer, and the bullshit claims cascade down into every possible use or hopeful use.
I can't speak for CM, but I can understand where she is coming from a little bit based on the fact that I am pretty annoyed with the psuedo-science and "natural" crowds rising in proportion to the strides made in legal and medical cannabis use. There are people out there claiming cannabis cures all cancer, and the bullshit claims cascade down into every possible use or hopeful use.
yes, there are, but that's the furthest thing from my experience at that shop that I had. this guy was not claiming to have any medical info whatsoever. basically reading the card issued with the strain.
I can't speak for CM, but I can understand where she is coming from a little bit based on the fact that I am pretty annoyed with the psuedo-science and "natural" crowds rising in proportion to the strides made in legal and medical cannabis use. There are people out there claiming cannabis cures all cancer, and the bullshit claims cascade down into every possible use or hopeful use.
and you do not have a problem with the pharmaceutical industry in which their products kill people daily. If someone chooses to treat cancer with Cannabis and they die, then that was their choice. I know of several people who used cannabis while undergoing cancer treatments, they used it as a supplement.
I can't speak for CM, but I can understand where she is coming from a little bit based on the fact that I am pretty annoyed with the psuedo-science and "natural" crowds rising in proportion to the strides made in legal and medical cannabis use. There are people out there claiming cannabis cures all cancer, and the bullshit claims cascade down into every possible use or hopeful use.
and you do not have a problem with the pharmaceutical industry in which their products kill people daily. If someone chooses to treat cancer with Cannabis and they die, then that was their choice. I know of several people who used cannabis while undergoing cancer treatments, they used it as a supplement.
Where does rgambs say that he doesn’t have a problem with rhe pharmaceutical industry?
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bought some indica. I told the dude about my anxiety and how I don't like being paranoid. He told me he has the same issue, no worries, indica is relaxing ("in da couch"). smoked a bit and was more paranoid right outta the gate than I recall being in a LONG time.
ug, i hate to hear these stories
Not sure what the laws are in your neck of the woods. But pot shops should not be 'prescribing' or offering medical opinion.
I
There are no laws against giving opinions, especially not when asked for them. The guy never claimed to be a doctor.
Weed affects different people differently - it really is just a matter of trial and error until you find what works for you (or to find that weed isn't for you at all). Luckily weed is at least cheap, so this method isn't a massive financial burden, and it's not dangerous either. It's not like bad advice about which strain to try is going to kill anyone.
that's the issue....you can't claim "well, I'm not a doctor"...and then proceed to give what amounts to a medical opinion. Or a specific recommendation for a specific medical issue.
I obviously wasn't there and don't have the context. I'm just saying it's a fine line to walk. Dispensaries are not pharmacies, they don't have the expertise to be giving advice and need to be really careful.
it wasn't a medical opinion. it was his personal experience he was relaying to me, along with his knowledge of what indica USUALLY does to people. nothing more. it was no different than me talking to a buddy.
Cool, so some pregnant lady walks into a dispensary and asks for something to help with her nausea. The dispensary offers some friendly advice on which strains are best. Is that acceptable?
Is this pregnant lady an adult? If so, then that is her choice. You do know that so far researchers have not been able to find a link between Cannabis smoke and Tobacco? You do know that the tobacco companies intentionally poison their customers. Yet it's fucking legal, what about alcohol...that's poison as well.
I can't speak for CM, but I can understand where she is coming from a little bit based on the fact that I am pretty annoyed with the psuedo-science and "natural" crowds rising in proportion to the strides made in legal and medical cannabis use. There are people out there claiming cannabis cures all cancer, and the bullshit claims cascade down into every possible use or hopeful use.
and you do not have a problem with the pharmaceutical industry in which their products kill people daily. If someone chooses to treat cancer with Cannabis and they die, then that was their choice. I know of several people who used cannabis while undergoing cancer treatments, they used it as a supplement.
I have plenty of problems with the pharmaceutical industry, no doubt. I have ZERO problems with people treating themselves with (or just enjoying) cannabis, but I sure as shit am not thrilled about every Devlin, Nevaeh, and Tyler out there like Jenny McCarthy making ridiculous claims. It was a minor annoyance when cannabis was on the fringe, but as it enters the mainstream, it's time for yoga the naturopathic, essential oil crowd to give way to scientists, technology, and legitimacy.
Not likely to help at all, supply will only be a single digit percentage of demand, and I believe the initial rate per ounce right now is somewhere over 450$
bought some indica. I told the dude about my anxiety and how I don't like being paranoid. He told me he has the same issue, no worries, indica is relaxing ("in da couch"). smoked a bit and was more paranoid right outta the gate than I recall being in a LONG time.
ug, i hate to hear these stories
Not sure what the laws are in your neck of the woods. But pot shops should not be 'prescribing' or offering medical opinion.
I
There are no laws against giving opinions, especially not when asked for them. The guy never claimed to be a doctor.
Weed affects different people differently - it really is just a matter of trial and error until you find what works for you (or to find that weed isn't for you at all). Luckily weed is at least cheap, so this method isn't a massive financial burden, and it's not dangerous either. It's not like bad advice about which strain to try is going to kill anyone.
that's the issue....you can't claim "well, I'm not a doctor"...and then proceed to give what amounts to a medical opinion. Or a specific recommendation for a specific medical issue.
I obviously wasn't there and don't have the context. I'm just saying it's a fine line to walk. Dispensaries are not pharmacies, they don't have the expertise to be giving advice and need to be really careful.
it wasn't a medical opinion. it was his personal experience he was relaying to me, along with his knowledge of what indica USUALLY does to people. nothing more. it was no different than me talking to a buddy.
Cool, so some pregnant lady walks into a dispensary and asks for something to help with her nausea. The dispensary offers some friendly advice on which strains are best. Is that acceptable?
Is this pregnant lady an adult? If so, then that is her choice. You do know that so far researchers have not been able to find a link between Cannabis smoke and Tobacco? You do know that the tobacco companies intentionally poison their customers. Yet it's fucking legal, what about alcohol...that's poison as well.
What do you mean by “establish a link between cannabis smoke and tobacco”??
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
People tell me these drugs spend years in the lab, being tested, they are safe...
Well, they are not safe.
I'll stick to cannabis for non-life treatments. I wouldn't trust the FDA's approval process ever.
Wow, you mean opioids are dangerous?? Wow, it's too bad doctors aren't educated about that...oh wait, they are. OxyContin is safe, if used properly, thanks to the FDA you don't seem to understand.
The fault with the opioid crisis lies equally with the people who make the meds then ship them out in numbers that are obviously suspicious, and the doctors at "pain clinics" who blast them into communities without consequence. Opioids have an important place in medical care, and we shouldn't be surprised that their makers want to sell more and make more money. We need to focus on accountability.
I guess.... I dunno, as someone who started dropping acid when she was 13 years old, and would have felt completely comfortable taking some drugs from an adult when I was a teenager, and indeed did exactly that many times, I have trouble feeling anything about this story. I know I'm supposed to really disapprove, but that's hard to do, considering. I do of course know it's illegal. I just also know what reality is for a lot of people when it comes to this kind of thing, and having lived it myself, I can't think of it as fucked up as many people obviously do. It just wasn't at all "disturbing" at the time (and no, I'm not going to be giving any drugs to minors, lol).
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It is not OK for an adult to give minor drugs...just because you felt like you might have been mature enough doesn't mean it should be tolerated, young people are impressionable. The good news is he will be locked out of opening a Cannabis store in Ontario because of his criminal past.
It is not OK for an adult to give minor drugs...just because you felt like you might have been mature enough doesn't mean it should be tolerated, young people are impressionable. The good news is he will be locked out of opening a Cannabis store in Ontario because of his criminal past.
I didn't say it was okay.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
No. You mean a government controlled business has a shortage? Maybe the should have left the entire operation to the private sector.
Of course, common sense says put off adding edibles until you figure how to supply the demand. I bet the black market has no shortage of weed.
I went to a private cannabis store over the weekend and asked one of the owners about this. She says no, the issue they are dealing is NOT really about supply. The issue is that right now, the growers basically have no idea what they're doing. I asked her if this issue would be solved, and she confidently said yes, once we see the craft growers come in, over the next year or so, the whole market would straighten itself out. She said she felt confident that the quality and consistency of product, which right now is not very good, so it's actually that the most desirable product is in short supply while the market is glutted with less desirable product, will improve over time, and doesn't expect it to take more than a year or so.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
No. You mean a government controlled business has a shortage? Maybe the should have left the entire operation to the private sector.
Of course, common sense says put off adding edibles until you figure how to supply the demand. I bet the black market has no shortage of weed.
I went to a private cannabis store over the weekend and asked one of the owners about this. She says no, the issue they are dealing is NOT really about supply. The issue is that right now, the growers basically have no idea what they're doing. I asked her if this issue would be solved, and she confidently said yes, once we see the craft growers come in, over the next year or so, the whole market would straighten itself out. She said she felt confident that the quality and consistency of product, which right now is not very good, so it's actually that the most desirable product is in short supply while the market is glutted with less desirable product, will improve over time, and doesn't expect it to take more than a year or so.
Some clerk working at a retail shop likely has no real idea what the issue is in the supply chain. But to say growers do not know what they are doing is extremely inaccurate. Most of Ontario's supply comes from growers who have been in business supplying medical marijuana for years. I spoke with my own supplier before legalization and was assured that we medicinal customers still come first and foremost and they have an excellent idea at how much inventory is needed to keep supplying the medical side. The issue that they feel will be the biggest is that they may not know for a year or 2 just how much supply will be needed to supply the recreational side of these.
The representative I spoke with said they expect the recreational sales will be very strong at first and should level off going into year 2, this should give them an idea at how much recreational weed is needed on a month to month basis. And as he pointed, they could easily grow enough within 6 months so they there would be no shortage, but what business wants to be stuck with 2 much inventory.
It's called growing pains. That's to be expected. Until they sort out the supply issue, they should hold off on edibles.
I've already contacted my MP to voice my concerns about edibles coming online too soon, she will raise this with the minister in charge of the file. She also did not think edibles will be legalized in 2019 with an election cooming, she thinks 2020 is more realistic. The house will probably break in June and will not be recalled until after the election, she makes sense...
And once again the advice I got is from one of Canada's largest growers...
No. You mean a government controlled business has a shortage? Maybe the should have left the entire operation to the private sector.
Of course, common sense says put off adding edibles until you figure how to supply the demand. I bet the black market has no shortage of weed.
I went to a private cannabis store over the weekend and asked one of the owners about this. She says no, the issue they are dealing is NOT really about supply. The issue is that right now, the growers basically have no idea what they're doing. I asked her if this issue would be solved, and she confidently said yes, once we see the craft growers come in, over the next year or so, the whole market would straighten itself out. She said she felt confident that the quality and consistency of product, which right now is not very good, so it's actually that the most desirable product is in short supply while the market is glutted with less desirable product, will improve over time, and doesn't expect it to take more than a year or so.
Some clerk working at a retail shop likely has no real idea what the issue is in the supply chain. But to say growers do not know what they are doing is extremely inaccurate. Most of Ontario's supply comes from growers who have been in business supplying medical marijuana for years. I spoke with my own supplier before legalization and was assured that we medicinal customers still come first and foremost and they have an excellent idea at how much inventory is needed to keep supplying the medical side. The issue that they feel will be the biggest is that they may not know for a year or 2 just how much supply will be needed to supply the recreational side of these.
The representative I spoke with said they expect the recreational sales will be very strong at first and should level off going into year 2, this should give them an idea at how much recreational weed is needed on a month to month basis. And as he pointed, they could easily grow enough within 6 months so they there would be no shortage, but what business wants to be stuck with 2 much inventory.
It's called growing pains. That's to be expected. Until they sort out the supply issue, they should hold off on edibles.
I've already contacted my MP to voice my concerns about edibles coming online too soon, she will raise this with the minister in charge of the file. She also did not think edibles will be legalized in 2019 with an election cooming, she thinks 2020 is more realistic. The house will probably break in June and will not be recalled until after the election, she makes sense...
And once again the advice I got is from one of Canada's largest growers...
Hahaha so to sum that up, "Your pot seller likely has no idea what's going on, but listen up my pot seller says..."
No. You mean a government controlled business has a shortage? Maybe the should have left the entire operation to the private sector.
Of course, common sense says put off adding edibles until you figure how to supply the demand. I bet the black market has no shortage of weed.
I went to a private cannabis store over the weekend and asked one of the owners about this. She says no, the issue they are dealing is NOT really about supply. The issue is that right now, the growers basically have no idea what they're doing. I asked her if this issue would be solved, and she confidently said yes, once we see the craft growers come in, over the next year or so, the whole market would straighten itself out. She said she felt confident that the quality and consistency of product, which right now is not very good, so it's actually that the most desirable product is in short supply while the market is glutted with less desirable product, will improve over time, and doesn't expect it to take more than a year or so.
Some clerk working at a retail shop likely has no real idea what the issue is in the supply chain. But to say growers do not know what they are doing is extremely inaccurate. Most of Ontario's supply comes from growers who have been in business supplying medical marijuana for years. I spoke with my own supplier before legalization and was assured that we medicinal customers still come first and foremost and they have an excellent idea at how much inventory is needed to keep supplying the medical side. The issue that they feel will be the biggest is that they may not know for a year or 2 just how much supply will be needed to supply the recreational side of these.
The representative I spoke with said they expect the recreational sales will be very strong at first and should level off going into year 2, this should give them an idea at how much recreational weed is needed on a month to month basis. And as he pointed, they could easily grow enough within 6 months so they there would be no shortage, but what business wants to be stuck with 2 much inventory.
It's called growing pains. That's to be expected. Until they sort out the supply issue, they should hold off on edibles.
I've already contacted my MP to voice my concerns about edibles coming online too soon, she will raise this with the minister in charge of the file. She also did not think edibles will be legalized in 2019 with an election cooming, she thinks 2020 is more realistic. The house will probably break in June and will not be recalled until after the election, she makes sense...
And once again the advice I got is from one of Canada's largest growers...
I told you is was the owner of the shop, not a clerk. And yes, the owner said that growers who are now supplying BCLDB with weed are not the growers who produced the best weed when it wasn't legal.
I'm going to trust the owner of a BC cannabis store about weed being sold in BC on this one before trusting your non-professional perspective coming out of Ontario.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
“It is the most dangerous drug because it is the most misunderstood drug,” Wilson said.
“Attorney General Alan Wilson stood up at that press conference and said things like ‘doped and stoned’ don’t apply to medicine. Well, he’s obviously never seen people that are doped up on opioids because that’s exactly what they are.”
Another fucking idiot politician...American politicians are some corrupt ass backward politicians on the planet...
Here a tip for that asshole lawyer, it's OUR BODY.
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Cool, so some pregnant lady walks into a dispensary and asks for something to help with her nausea. The dispensary offers some friendly advice on which strains are best. Is that acceptable?
I didn't go there asking for help with an anxiety, or any other, condition. All I said was 'I prefer products that relax you, as opposed to ones that give you energy". There is actual research on which ones generally do one or the other. They have signs on each strain which activities go with which. he was just relaying that same info. Not sure what your issue is here.
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There are people out there claiming cannabis cures all cancer, and the bullshit claims cascade down into every possible use or hopeful use.
Cheers,
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/medical-marijuana-goes-sale-ohio-some-hope-it-may-ease-n959551
I have ZERO problems with people treating themselves with (or just enjoying) cannabis, but I sure as shit am not thrilled about every Devlin, Nevaeh, and Tyler out there like Jenny McCarthy making ridiculous claims.
It was a minor annoyance when cannabis was on the fringe, but as it enters the mainstream, it's time for yoga the naturopathic, essential oil crowd to give way to scientists, technology, and legitimacy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/drug-maker-pushed-oxycontin-despite-danger-signs-prosecutor-says-n959266
People tell me these drugs spend years in the lab, being tested, they are safe...
Well, they are not safe.
I'll stick to cannabis for non-life treatments. I wouldn't trust the FDA's approval process ever.
OxyContin is safe, if used properly, thanks to the FDA you don't seem to understand.
The fault with the opioid crisis lies equally with the people who make the meds then ship them out in numbers that are obviously suspicious, and the doctors at "pain clinics" who blast them into communities without consequence.
Opioids have an important place in medical care, and we shouldn't be surprised that their makers want to sell more and make more money. We need to focus on accountability.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/16/fda-wants-pharma-to-bring-opioid-antidote-naloxone-over-the-counter.html
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https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2019/01/21/marc-emery-lsd-ecstasy-drugs-underage-girls-alleged_a_23648923/?ncid=fcbklnkcahpmg00000001&fbclid=IwAR2QzRp9KPE7enNjU7lou24mU_e64HFq2TB53qGCZqEdiWoyjV8wVTEQMkc
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-cannabis-shortage-years-1.4988195
No. You mean a government controlled business has a shortage? Maybe the should have left the entire operation to the private sector.
Of course, common sense says put off adding edibles until you figure how to supply the demand. I bet the black market has no shortage of weed.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cbd-weaning-people-off-medications-1.4983819?fbclid=IwAR3Ha2UNClx2yNRedMxkmDk2_hhAd2UV2C8haQIRQZWVbJXb5S9n26YEy7Y
https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/ontario-cannabis-store-looking-to-rollout-same-day-pot-delivery-1.4267346?fbclid=IwAR1UtXbYROSKcaXoBiwZ36CiA2PQ57nT_UuEyJGmiqW3iQsyk9pYCKf-2cM
The representative I spoke with said they expect the recreational sales will be very strong at first and should level off going into year 2, this should give them an idea at how much recreational weed is needed on a month to month basis. And as he pointed, they could easily grow enough within 6 months so they there would be no shortage, but what business wants to be stuck with 2 much inventory.
It's called growing pains. That's to be expected. Until they sort out the supply issue, they should hold off on edibles.
I've already contacted my MP to voice my concerns about edibles coming online too soon, she will raise this with the minister in charge of the file. She also did not think edibles will be legalized in 2019 with an election cooming, she thinks 2020 is more realistic. The house will probably break in June and will not be recalled until after the election, she makes sense...
And once again the advice I got is from one of Canada's largest growers...
"Your pot seller likely has no idea what's going on, but listen up my pot seller says..."
https://wlos.com/news/local/legalizing-medical-marijuana-gets-strong-no-from-sc-attny-general-infuriating-advocates?fbclid=IwAR0Q2Al54LLHMFkT5EjiMUt4_e-erv9ruLvSwFPkXyT6YotWXxHf6REg4ZU
“It is the most dangerous drug because it is the most misunderstood drug,” Wilson said.
“Attorney General Alan Wilson stood up at that press conference and said things like ‘doped and stoned’ don’t apply to medicine. Well, he’s obviously never seen people that are doped up on opioids because that’s exactly what they are.”
Another fucking idiot politician...American politicians are some corrupt ass backward politicians on the planet...
Here a tip for that asshole lawyer, it's OUR BODY.