The AMT Marijuana Thread

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jeffbr
jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
edited April 2017 in A Moving Train
Happy 4/20 everyone. Since the old thread was closed at the request of the OP of that thread, and since we didn't have a current MJ thread going, today seemed like an appropriate day to start a new one!

For your reading pleasure today, HuffPost has compiled The Exhaustive List Of Everyone Who’s Died Of A Marijuana Overdose.

"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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  • Kat
    Kat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,955
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    A beautiful day here in Ohio.
    The incredibly invasive (but not damaging or bad, IMO) Russian/Autumn Olive is in bloom in my lower yard, making an entire half acre smell of a flowery fresh-baked sugar cookie.
    It's​ a wonderful scent, and it pairs well with the scent of fresh cut grass and sweet, sticky bud.
    Happy holidays!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    living in canada, I think I have finally settled on a band name: Winterland Waldos
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,392
    I live in Colorado
    Everyday is 420 in Colorado
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524

    I live in Colorado
    Everyday is 420 in Colorado

    And in CA - for me, anyway :)

    Looking forward to this evening!





    And we don't even have a dog :rofl:
  • Kat
    Kat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,955
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Kat said:
    Good stuff. I have been seeing a lot more noise coming from congress, and am hopeful that we'll see meaningful reforms in the next couple of years, Trump notwithstanding. I don't think he even cares on way or the other. Only that hillbilly Sessions, perhaps the head of DHS, and a few Bible thumpers in Congress make noise about the evils of MJ. The majority of the country is ready to have some sanity applied to Marijuana laws. Prohibition didn't work for alcohol, and isn't working for MJ. It is time for a change in the laws.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    In honour of 4/20, new things are coming my way by mail! 30% off, what a deal :)
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Interesting article on taxation issues related to legalization of marijuana. Whether and how much to tax, weighing what level of taxation would keep people using the illegal supply chain rather than legal.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/dan-sutton/marijuana-tax-canada_b_16436462.html

    One thing that stuck out for me - "By year end 2015, Colorado had collected more taxes from cannabis consumption than alcohol sales".  That's astounding.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    dignin said:
    Well, of course, they have to meet those mandatory minimum prisoner populations set by the private prison corporations.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    rgambs said:
    dignin said:
    Well, of course, they have to meet those mandatory minimum prisoner populations set by the private prison corporations.
    Exactly right. Trump reversed Obama on the use of private prisons, I'm sure due to favors owed to donors, and it is Session's job to fill those prisons with undocumented aliens and low-level drug users. #MAGA
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Interesting article on taxation issues related to legalization of marijuana. Whether and how much to tax, weighing what level of taxation would keep people using the illegal supply chain rather than legal.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/dan-sutton/marijuana-tax-canada_b_16436462.html

    One thing that stuck out for me - "By year end 2015, Colorado had collected more taxes from cannabis consumption than alcohol sales".  That's astounding.
    It is astounding, and encouraging. Because states are now reaping the benefits of legalization in a big way, there is no way they are going to roll over if Trump/Sessions want to try to enforce federal MJ laws. This just shows that prohibition has never worked. There has always been demand, and states can choose to continue the unwinnable war on drugs and continue spending senselessly in an attempt to quell that demand, or they can embrace the will of the people and reap financial reward. 
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,396
    jeffbr said:
    Interesting article on taxation issues related to legalization of marijuana. Whether and how much to tax, weighing what level of taxation would keep people using the illegal supply chain rather than legal.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/dan-sutton/marijuana-tax-canada_b_16436462.html

    One thing that stuck out for me - "By year end 2015, Colorado had collected more taxes from cannabis consumption than alcohol sales".  That's astounding.
    It is astounding, and encouraging. Because states are now reaping the benefits of legalization in a big way, there is no way they are going to roll over if Trump/Sessions want to try to enforce federal MJ laws. This just shows that prohibition has never worked. There has always been demand, and states can choose to continue the unwinnable war on drugs and continue spending senselessly in an attempt to quell that demand, or they can embrace the will of the people and reap financial reward. 
    Are you referring to all drugs or just marijuana? I hope we never go beyond marijuana legalization. I would also argue that embracing the will of the people should be carefully assessed. After all, Donald Trump was the will of 60 million people. The people don't always make the best decisions.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    tbergs said:
    jeffbr said:
    Interesting article on taxation issues related to legalization of marijuana. Whether and how much to tax, weighing what level of taxation would keep people using the illegal supply chain rather than legal.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/dan-sutton/marijuana-tax-canada_b_16436462.html

    One thing that stuck out for me - "By year end 2015, Colorado had collected more taxes from cannabis consumption than alcohol sales".  That's astounding.
    It is astounding, and encouraging. Because states are now reaping the benefits of legalization in a big way, there is no way they are going to roll over if Trump/Sessions want to try to enforce federal MJ laws. This just shows that prohibition has never worked. There has always been demand, and states can choose to continue the unwinnable war on drugs and continue spending senselessly in an attempt to quell that demand, or they can embrace the will of the people and reap financial reward. 
    Are you referring to all drugs or just marijuana? I hope we never go beyond marijuana legalization. I would also argue that embracing the will of the people should be carefully assessed. After all, Donald Trump was the will of 60 million people. The people don't always make the best decisions.
    For now I'm just focused on MJ, although I'm happy to make a case for legalizing (or at the very least decriminalizing) and regulating all drugs, and spend that "war on drugs" money on better education, prevention, and treatment rather than militarized police, the DEA, and private prisons. But that clutters the discussion and I'd prefer to leave that to a different thread. Sessions' hard on about federal MJ enforcement is tiring, and I really don't have much fear of him being able to reverse any current trends on that front. I understand your point about the will of the people, but MJ legalization is a decades old, non-partisan movement based on reason and common sense. It is only political because some politicians (and religious morality police) try to make it so. And ultimately, regardless of what we think about Trump's election, the will of the people had better be taken into consideration in this country. If the will of the people violates the constitution, then either amend the constitution or ignore the will of the people. If the will of the people involves violating minority civil rights, then the will of the people should absolutely be ignored. But for the most part, the will of the people should be considered in every single thing the peoples' representatives in DC work on. 
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • erocshifty
    erocshifty Posts: 1,170
    rgambs said:
    dignin said:
    Well, of course, they have to meet those mandatory minimum prisoner populations set by the private prison corporations.
    It's also a way to strip voter rights away from someone who most likely, isn't going to vote Republican. Everything they do reminds me of the Jane's Addiction song "Obvious". 
    "It's best to live in grace before you're forced to." EV- 10/09/2014 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
    I bought a gram of shatter for the first time last weekend. I like it better than budder - so much easier to handle.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • erocshifty
    erocshifty Posts: 1,170
    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/how-henry-rollins-became-a-drug-free-pot-advocate-w481602

    Man, I love Henry Rollins. I agree with a LOT of what he says on a multitude of different issues.
    "It's best to live in grace before you're forced to." EV- 10/09/2014 
  • qontheboard
    qontheboard Posts: 787
    PJ_Soul said:
    I bought a gram of shatter for the first time last weekend. I like it better than budder - so much easier to handle.


    Shatter is such a game changer for concerts. No more worrying about getting away with smoking a joint inside, or having to go outside to do the deed. Just a quick hit or two off the Aura (now branded the Aurora) and all is good.
     
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
    edited May 2017
    PJ_Soul said:
    I bought a gram of shatter for the first time last weekend. I like it better than budder - so much easier to handle.


    Shatter is such a game changer for concerts. No more worrying about getting away with smoking a joint inside, or having to go outside to do the deed. Just a quick hit or two off the Aura (now branded the Aurora) and all is good.
     
    Yeah, the concentrates in the vape pens are definitely a game changer when it comes to smoking up at concerts. I actually don't do this anymore because I no longer like being high in public, but I still appreciate that budder and shatter make things a lot better for those who want to indulge discretely! I only use it at home, but even there, I enjoy budder and shatter in the pen because it's just so much easier than loading the bong and finding the lighter, haha.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata