Hillary won more votes for President

brianlux · October 2016

pjhawks said:

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brianlux said:
There are people who don't believe there is such a thing as voter fraud and voter suppression? I didn't know that?

Another question: Bernie supporters are sore losers? All of us or just those of us with geek stink breath?

Thanks in advance for answers. It's good to know these things.
not all, just those who think, because he lost because of fraud or voter suppression. i mean his thread still gets hits here and he lost.

But that's not what you said- you made a generalization about Bernie supporters. Not everyone is a sore loser. And just because Bernie lost, I wouldn't assume what he brought to the U.S. political arena is irrelevant.

PJ_Soul · October 2016

unsung said:

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benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

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benjs said:
Please Kat, I'm begging you!

https://vanillaforums.org/addon/ignore-plugin
Yes, please.
What does it do?
It allows you to select users whose posts you don't want to see. What's funny is that I think everyone here would have a different list of who they should ignore!
I wouldn't ignore anyone, and I mean that. Then again I'm not a beta so I can handle disagreement. My feeling won't get hurt.

There are very, very few people I would ignore. For the most part I really like to see full discussions, and disagreements and conflicts don't phase me in the long run either. But I can think of maybe a couple of people who I'd probably want to ignore because I find their contributions worthless.

unsung · October 2016

I've been attacked personally, but I honestly don't even know anymore who did it. It's fine.

CM189191 · October 2016

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ledvedderman said:
Please tell me how voter fraud exists. Does some asshole get the big idea to try to vote twice? Definitely. Is it an out of control problem swaying elections? Far from.
This is just plain ignorance. There was upfront and blatant voter fraud during the primaries. If you don't know, do us all a favor, don't post.
Post the proof. I don't know if you are right or wrong, but post the proof when asked about it versus trying to start an argument. To me your answer says you don't have any proof so you are just going to insult the person.
he is a Bernie supporter and has no proof. just a lot of conjecture. even Bernie himself has said that any voter suppression didn't make a difference in the outcome and he would have lost anyway. Bernie supporters are sore losers.

relevant to this conversation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Op9Bkpeu4s

benjs · October 2016

Free said:

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Free said:

pjhawks said:

bootlegger10 said:

Free said:

ledvedderman said:
Please tell me how voter fraud exists. Does some asshole get the big idea to try to vote twice? Definitely. Is it an out of control problem swaying elections? Far from.
This is just plain ignorance. There was upfront and blatant voter fraud during the primaries. If you don't know, do us all a favor, don't post.
Post the proof. I don't know if you are right or wrong, but post the proof when asked about it versus trying to start an argument. To me your answer says you don't have any proof so you are just going to insult the person.
he is a Bernie supporter and has no proof. just a lot of conjecture. even Bernie himself has said that any voter suppression didn't make a difference in the outcome and he would have lost anyway. Bernie supporters are sore losers.
Ok. But you're wrong about Bernie.
If corruption exists in government from every level from internal party politics through to congress, and Sanders was ineffective at circumventing the corruption in the primaries, the only reasonable assumption is that he would have been equally ineffective at circumventing the corruption as President. It seems pretty reasonable to say, again, that if you want to purge corruption in government - you need to work from the bottom up.
But I've asked you how to get rid of gerrymandering and money in politics... from the bottom up. What are your solutions?

Then maybe this needs to be an holistic mobilization combating corruption on top and bottom levels. On the top, we have just over four years to make change. On the bottom, could efforts to have Congress represent the people again not start immediately?

Gern Blansten · October 2016

benjs said:

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Free said:

benjs said:

Free said:

pjhawks said:

bootlegger10 said:

Free said:

ledvedderman said:
Please tell me how voter fraud exists. Does some asshole get the big idea to try to vote twice? Definitely. Is it an out of control problem swaying elections? Far from.
This is just plain ignorance. There was upfront and blatant voter fraud during the primaries. If you don't know, do us all a favor, don't post.
Post the proof. I don't know if you are right or wrong, but post the proof when asked about it versus trying to start an argument. To me your answer says you don't have any proof so you are just going to insult the person.
he is a Bernie supporter and has no proof. just a lot of conjecture. even Bernie himself has said that any voter suppression didn't make a difference in the outcome and he would have lost anyway. Bernie supporters are sore losers.
Ok. But you're wrong about Bernie.
If corruption exists in government from every level from internal party politics through to congress, and Sanders was ineffective at circumventing the corruption in the primaries, the only reasonable assumption is that he would have been equally ineffective at circumventing the corruption as President. It seems pretty reasonable to say, again, that if you want to purge corruption in government - you need to work from the bottom up.
But I've asked you how to get rid of gerrymandering and money in politics... from the bottom up. What are your solutions?
Then maybe this needs to be an holistic mobilization combating corruption on top and bottom levels. On the top, we have just over four years to make change. On the bottom, could efforts to have Congress represent the people again not start immediately?

We know that the repubs will never support getting rid of gerrymandering. Their ranks keep diminishing so that is their only hope in some cases.

Cliffy6745 · October 2016

CM189191 said:

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pjhawks said:

bootlegger10 said:

Free said:

ledvedderman said:
Please tell me how voter fraud exists. Does some asshole get the big idea to try to vote twice? Definitely. Is it an out of control problem swaying elections? Far from.
This is just plain ignorance. There was upfront and blatant voter fraud during the primaries. If you don't know, do us all a favor, don't post.
Post the proof. I don't know if you are right or wrong, but post the proof when asked about it versus trying to start an argument. To me your answer says you don't have any proof so you are just going to insult the person.
he is a Bernie supporter and has no proof. just a lot of conjecture. even Bernie himself has said that any voter suppression didn't make a difference in the outcome and he would have lost anyway. Bernie supporters are sore losers.
relevant to this conversation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Op9Bkpeu4s

These videos can be made by either side, but this one was pretty amazing

pjhawks · October 2016

brianlux said:

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pjhawks said:

brianlux said:
There are people who don't believe there is such a thing as voter fraud and voter suppression? I didn't know that?

Another question: Bernie supporters are sore losers? All of us or just those of us with geek stink breath?

Thanks in advance for answers. It's good to know these things.
not all, just those who think, because he lost because of fraud or voter suppression. i mean his thread still gets hits here and he lost.
But that's not what you said- you made a generalization about Bernie supporters. Not everyone is a sore loser. And just because Bernie lost, I wouldn't assume what he brought to the U.S. political arena is irrelevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syV2LkGpQB0

Free · October 2016

brianlux said:
There are people who don't believe there is such a thing as voter fraud and voter suppression? I didn't know that?

Another question: Bernie supporters are sore losers? All of us or just those of us with geek stink breath?

Thanks in advance for answers. It's good to know these things.

Yes, Brian. We have to go through this again of explaining exactly what happened with Bernie and all the bullshit cheating that went with it.

Free · October 2016

CM189191 said:

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pjhawks said:

bootlegger10 said:

Free said:

ledvedderman said:
Please tell me how voter fraud exists. Does some asshole get the big idea to try to vote twice? Definitely. Is it an out of control problem swaying elections? Far from.
This is just plain ignorance. There was upfront and blatant voter fraud during the primaries. If you don't know, do us all a favor, don't post.
Post the proof. I don't know if you are right or wrong, but post the proof when asked about it versus trying to start an argument. To me your answer says you don't have any proof so you are just going to insult the person.
he is a Bernie supporter and has no proof. just a lot of conjecture. even Bernie himself has said that any voter suppression didn't make a difference in the outcome and he would have lost anyway. Bernie supporters are sore losers.
relevant to this conversation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Op9Bkpeu4s

Citing Sam Bee? Who's an unabashad Hillary supporter? Not credible at all. I didn't even watch it. Because I've watched her terrible show plenty, because I liked her on Jon Stewart.

Free · October 2016

benjs said:

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Free said:

benjs said:

Free said:

pjhawks said:

bootlegger10 said:

Free said:

ledvedderman said:
Please tell me how voter fraud exists. Does some asshole get the big idea to try to vote twice? Definitely. Is it an out of control problem swaying elections? Far from.
This is just plain ignorance. There was upfront and blatant voter fraud during the primaries. If you don't know, do us all a favor, don't post.
Post the proof. I don't know if you are right or wrong, but post the proof when asked about it versus trying to start an argument. To me your answer says you don't have any proof so you are just going to insult the person.
he is a Bernie supporter and has no proof. just a lot of conjecture. even Bernie himself has said that any voter suppression didn't make a difference in the outcome and he would have lost anyway. Bernie supporters are sore losers.
Ok. But you're wrong about Bernie.
If corruption exists in government from every level from internal party politics through to congress, and Sanders was ineffective at circumventing the corruption in the primaries, the only reasonable assumption is that he would have been equally ineffective at circumventing the corruption as President. It seems pretty reasonable to say, again, that if you want to purge corruption in government - you need to work from the bottom up.
But I've asked you how to get rid of gerrymandering and money in politics... from the bottom up. What are your solutions?
Then maybe this needs to be an holistic mobilization combating corruption on top and bottom levels. On the top, we have just over four years to make change. On the bottom, could efforts to have Congress represent the people again not start immediately?

Great in theory, but not happening, since money, gerrymandering, and the lack of term limits currently rule. That's why Bernie was so awesome and really struck a chord with the People of this country. We do have progressive reps in politics who we have to get elected to swing the table back to the People, but everything is bought and paid for. Thank Hillary for that. She bought and paid Superdelegates. She and DWS repealed Obama's rule to not allow lobbyist money into the pres. elections. Obama tried. Hillary reversed. Who do you support again?

PJ_Soul · October 2016

Free said:

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brianlux said:
There are people who don't believe there is such a thing as voter fraud and voter suppression? I didn't know that?

Another question: Bernie supporters are sore losers? All of us or just those of us with geek stink breath?

Thanks in advance for answers. It's good to know these things.
Yes, Brian. We have to go through this again of explaining exactly what happened with Bernie and all the bullshit cheating that went with it.

But Brian, it's not a matter of not believing in voter fraud. It's a matter of acknowledging that it isn't a relevant problem given the numbers. I think there is plenty of evidence supporting that view.
Voter suppression is a whole other story, and I absolutely believe that is a problem.

Gern Blansten · October 2016

Cliffy6745 said:

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CM189191 said:

pjhawks said:

bootlegger10 said:

Free said:

ledvedderman said:
Please tell me how voter fraud exists. Does some asshole get the big idea to try to vote twice? Definitely. Is it an out of control problem swaying elections? Far from.
This is just plain ignorance. There was upfront and blatant voter fraud during the primaries. If you don't know, do us all a favor, don't post.
Post the proof. I don't know if you are right or wrong, but post the proof when asked about it versus trying to start an argument. To me your answer says you don't have any proof so you are just going to insult the person.
he is a Bernie supporter and has no proof. just a lot of conjecture. even Bernie himself has said that any voter suppression didn't make a difference in the outcome and he would have lost anyway. Bernie supporters are sore losers.
relevant to this conversation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Op9Bkpeu4s
These videos can be made by either side, but this one was pretty amazing

Hilarious

CM189191 · October 2016

Free said:

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CM189191 said:

pjhawks said:

bootlegger10 said:

Free said:

ledvedderman said:
Please tell me how voter fraud exists. Does some asshole get the big idea to try to vote twice? Definitely. Is it an out of control problem swaying elections? Far from.
This is just plain ignorance. There was upfront and blatant voter fraud during the primaries. If you don't know, do us all a favor, don't post.
Post the proof. I don't know if you are right or wrong, but post the proof when asked about it versus trying to start an argument. To me your answer says you don't have any proof so you are just going to insult the person.
he is a Bernie supporter and has no proof. just a lot of conjecture. even Bernie himself has said that any voter suppression didn't make a difference in the outcome and he would have lost anyway. Bernie supporters are sore losers.
relevant to this conversation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Op9Bkpeu4s
Citing Sam Bee? Who's an unabashad Hillary supporter? Not credible at all. I didn't even watch it. Because I've watched her terrible show plenty, because I liked her on Jon Stewart.

Parody is not meant to be credible. Well, at least it isn't usually meant to be...

Boxes&Books · October 2016

https://twitter.com/MikePenceVP/status/759896852816924672

InHiding80 · October 2016

tonifig8 said:
https://twitter.com/MikePenceVP/status/759896852816924672

And he's no better for admitting he idolizes Adolf Cheney.

mrussel1 · October 2016

I would be completely against the plug in. If you don't like what people say, go somewhere else. No safe spaces.

unsung · October 2016

I concur.

unsung · October 2016

You'd think it would get tiresome lying and conniving all day.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-coordinated-on-clinton-email-issues-new-documents-show-1475798310?mod=e2tw

ledvedderman · October 2016

That WSJ article is for subscribers only. Could you copy and paste the text?

Hillary won more votes for President

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