Hillary won more votes for President

Gern Blansten

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-campaign-kevin-mccarthy-benghazi-214258

“Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable right? But we put together a Benghazi Special Committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping," McCarthy said. "Why? Cause she’s untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened had we not fought and made that happen.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-campaign-kevin-mccarthy-benghazi-214258#ixzz3nFALcOaO

A spinable screw up but a screw up nonetheless.

Dirtie_Frank

So they want to stop the investigation now? She placed classified documents on a unclassified system. That right there shows her arrogance that she thinks she can do whatever she wants. I work in the classified realm and if I did what she did I would have been fired, fined and possibly imprisoned,

Gern Blansten

You are confusing the fake storylines. The article is about the fake Benghazi outrage...your post seems to be about the fake email outrage.

Kat

Nice they finally admitted it. Now give me back my tax money.

Dirtie_Frank

Gern Blansten said:

You are confusing the fake storylines. The article is about the fake Benghazi outrage...your post seems to be about the fake email outrage.

There is no fake email outrage. She broke the law by having classified information on an unclassified server. It is pretty black and white.

Jason P

Dirtie_Frank said:

Gern Blansten said:

You are confusing the fake storylines. The article is about the fake Benghazi outrage...your post seems to be about the fake email outrage.

There is no fake email outrage. She broke the law by having classified information on an unclassified server. It is pretty black and white.

And that is when her numbers started to go down, not Benghazi.

Gern Blansten

Dirtie_Frank said:

Gern Blansten said:

You are confusing the fake storylines. The article is about the fake Benghazi outrage...your post seems to be about the fake email outrage.

There is no fake email outrage. She broke the law by having classified information on an unclassified server. It is pretty black and white.

Do you have a link that backs this up? Surely if she broke the law you can give me something.

Dirtie_Frank

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/21/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

The new stamps indicate that some of Clinton's emails from her time as the nation's most senior diplomat are filled with a type of information the U.S. government and the department's own regulations automatically deems classified from the get-go — regardless of whether it is already marked that way or not.

Dirtie_Frank

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/politics/hillary-clinton-email-classified-information-inspector-general-intelligence-community.html?_r=0

But the inspectors general of the State Department and the nation’s intelligence agencies said the information they found was classified when it was sent and remains so now. Information is considered classified if its disclosure would likely harm national security, and such information can be sent or stored only on computer networks with special safeguards.

Dirtie_Frank

http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-aide-shared-classified-information-with-foundation-email-shows/

A member of Hillary Clinton’s staff at the Department of State emailed classified information about the government in Congo to a staffer at the Clinton Foundation in 2012, according to a copy of the correspondence obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

Dirtie_Frank

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/us/politics/second-review-says-classified-information-was-in-hillary-clintons-email.html

A special intelligence review of two emails that Hillary Rodham Clinton received as secretary of state on her personal account — including one about North Korea’s nuclear weapons program — has endorsed a finding by the inspector general for the intelligence agencies that the emails contained highly classified information when Mrs. Clinton received them, senior intelligence officials said.

Dirtie_Frank

Do you want more?

HughFreakingDillon

who cares. it's not like she was leaking it. and yes, I'd say the same thing if it were a republican who did it.

Dirtie_Frank

So she can do whatever she wants?

Gern Blansten

Dirtie_Frank said:

Do you want more?

You haven't posted anything from an authority. Posting garbage from Freebeacon, opinion pieces, etc. It's your opinion that she broke the law. Until she is charged you have nothing to hang your hat on.

She hasn't done anything that Sec of States before her haven't done...including GOP SOSs

Gern Blansten

Dirtie_Frank said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/us/politics/second-review-says-classified-information-was-in-hillary-clintons-email.html

A special intelligence review of two emails that Hillary Rodham Clinton received as secretary of state on her personal account — including one about North Korea’s nuclear weapons program — has endorsed a finding by the inspector general for the intelligence agencies that the emails contained highly classified information when Mrs. Clinton received them, senior intelligence officials said.

“Classification is rarely a black and white question, and it is common for the State Department to engage internally and with our interagency partners to arrive at the appropriate decision,” he said in a statement. “Very often both the State Department and the intelligence community acquire information on the same matter through separate channels. Thus, there can be two or more separate reports and not all of them based on classified means. At this time, any conclusion about the classification of the documents in question would be premature.”

Dirtie_Frank

I trust the IC rather than a bunch of political appointees

HughFreakingDillon

Dirtie_Frank said:

So she can do whatever she wants?

um, obviously not.

Jason P

Gern Blansten said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Do you want more?

You haven't posted anything from an authority. Posting garbage from Freebeacon, opinion pieces, etc. It's your opinion that she broke the law. Until she is charged you have nothing to hang your hat on.

She hasn't done anything that Sec of States before her haven't done...including GOP SOSs

It's hard to tell with the lack of transparency. She had more then ample time to delete anything truly damning.

Dirtie_Frank

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information

Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Using an unclass server to transmit a classified document seems to fit in here.

Gern Blansten

Dirtie_Frank said:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information

Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Using an unclass server to transmit a classified document seems to fit in here.

So if she has then she'll be charged right? TIme will tell.

As of now there are no charges and most if not all of the outrage is over emails that were deemed to be classified after the fact.

Edit: "Knowingly" being the key word. If you don't know it is classified when received then it's pretty obvious that it isn't criminal.

callen

Kat said:

Nice they finally admitted it. Now give me back my tax money.

Yep. All waste for political gain.

Bengazi BengAzi Bengazi.

gimmesometruth27

Kat said:

Nice they finally admitted it. Now give me back my tax money.

i demand an investigation and the confiscation of the emails and servers of the people on the benghazi committee. you know they had to have discussed strategy and how they were going to bring clinton down in purely political witch hunt. actually, demand is not a strong enough word for how much i believe that that much is owed to the american people.

gimmesometruth27

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-campaign-kevin-mccarthy-benghazi-214258

“Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable right? But we put together a Benghazi Special Committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping," McCarthy said. "Why? Cause she’s untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened had we not fought and made that happen.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-campaign-kevin-mccarthy-benghazi-214258#ixzz3nFALcOaO

A spinable screw up but a screw up nonetheless.

if anything warrants an investigation, it is this. i am emailing my senator and representative tonight.

gimmesometruth27

Dirtie_Frank said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/us/politics/second-review-says-classified-information-was-in-hillary-clintons-email.html

A special intelligence review of two emails that Hillary Rodham Clinton received as secretary of state on her personal account — including one about North Korea’s nuclear weapons program — has endorsed a finding by the inspector general for the intelligence agencies that the emails contained highly classified information when Mrs. Clinton received them, senior intelligence officials said.

what does this have to do with benghazi?

what does it have to do with the 4 victims and their families?

you know, those are the things this committee is supposed to be investigating, right? and they have found nothing amiss, right?

this is just whitewater all over again.

i am going to laugh my ass off if all this wasted time and money and political character assassination leads to the conclusion that bill got another bj.

Gern Blansten

http://www.scribd.com/doc/283720750/Read-letter-from-Democrats-on-Benghazi-panel

This tells you all you need to know about Benghazi.

The Democrats on the committee want to make this persons testimony public...the GOP wants to keep it classified to act like something is there.

Kat

Oh that's hilarious...like a skit from a comedy show. Republican staff emailed a copy of the so-called classified transcript to Democratic staff on an unclassified email system which is exactly what they are accusing Hillary of doing? Egads, stop the insanity.

Gern Blansten

Kat said:

Oh that's hilarious...like a skit from a comedy show. Republican staff emailed a copy of the so-called classified transcript to Democratic staff on an unclassified email system which is exactly what they are accusing Hillary of doing? Egads, stop the insanity.

Poetic justice.

PJfanwillneverleave1

To you Americans out there what does this mean?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-says-she-now-opposes-obamas-pacific-trade-deal-which-she-once-touted/2015/10/07/00fb1f42-6d30-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_story.html

gimmesometruth27

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

To you Americans out there what does this mean?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-says-she-now-opposes-obamas-pacific-trade-deal-which-she-once-touted/2015/10/07/00fb1f42-6d30-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_story.html

she should oppose that piece of crap trade deal. it is going to hurt american workers and it is going to hurt the middle class.

i love how bernie sanders is pulling hillary to the left. sanders has long opposed the TPP.

Godfather.

HughFreakingDillon said:

who cares. it's not like she was leaking it. and yes, I'd say the same thing if it were a republican who did it.

matters not ....both parties are corrupt and sneaky.

Godfather.