Hillary won more votes for President

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Gern Blansten said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:


    Gern Blansten said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    pjhawks said:

    do people really believe Hillary is going to jail?

    Yes they do.

    One of my facebook "friends" was going off on the first debate as to why Lester Holt didn't confront Hillary about Benghazi.

    Seriously....the testimony she gave was dissected over and over again for a few years and this idiot thinks it should have been a debate topic?

    These people believe that she still hasn't answered for Benghazi or the emails.
    those issues are more of a debate topic that Trumps tax returns and a former Miss USA nobody....she should be pressed on those issues till her last breath because she continues to lie about it even under oath and will continue to lie and be corrupt all the way to the white house



    Horseshit

    Trump is hiding something. If Clinton hadn't released her returns you would be pooping your pants. Fucking admit it.

    Tax returns require you to disclose foreign assets. I'm guessing that is what he is hiding.

    Trumps attack on Miss Universe is relevant because it shows us how unstable and childish the guy is.
    This guy swears he's fucking defending Jesus! How is it that you can guess he's hiding something, but the minute someone questions your queen you lose your shit? You have one excuse after another. There is a reason why Clinton is polling so fucking low for so fucking long! Don't you get that?!?!? When Clinton wouldn't release her speeches you made excuses, even though you claimed to be for Bernie. It's not just the deplorable's that feel that way! A shit load of us out here hate her fucking guts and feel she's bad for our country, simply based on her character and her 30+ years of service. Yesterday CNN had a survey done with, i don't know 20 or so undecided voters- who were mostly leaning towards Clinton. At the end of the survey they all, and I mean all, preferred the VP picks over the actual candidates. Can you believe that?!?!
    A vast majority of the population don't like her because of all the red flags consistently surrounding her career. She's winning because people are afraid of Trump. Otherwise she would be getting her ass handed to her.

    A from a former BernieBro gone Clinton number 1 Fanboy. Hilarious.
    Hold on just a fucking second. I thought I WAS #1 fanboy. Now I'm pissed.
    Nope...the mayor just called...I've been declared the #1 fanboy in the land
    RIGGED!
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    The version my wife couldn't get off the ground 25 years ago was much better. Leave Barry alone William.
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/04/politics/bill-clinton-obamacare-craziest-thing/index.html
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    Amazing how voter fraud exists...until it's your candidate.

    Huh what? I can't make sense of this.
    When did democrats claim voter fraud?
    2000
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    unsung said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    Amazing how voter fraud exists...until it's your candidate.

    Huh what? I can't make sense of this.
    When did democrats claim voter fraud?
    2000
    Not voter fraud. Election fraud. BIG difference.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Voter fraud is a whole other world than just flat having the counting of ballots being stopped.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    Amazing how voter fraud exists...until it's your candidate.

    Huh what? I can't make sense of this.
    When did democrats claim voter fraud?
    2000
    Hahaha ok, yeah, that election was squeaky clean, the Supreme Court didn't get involved and Clinton has the fix in!
    :dizzy:
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    ledvedderman said:

    Please tell me how voter fraud exists. Does some asshole get the big idea to try to vote twice? Definitely. Is it an out of control problem swaying elections? Far from.

    This is just plain ignorance. There was upfront and blatant voter fraud during the primaries. If you don't know, do us all a favor, don't post.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    edited October 2016
    Free said:

    ledvedderman said:

    Please tell me how voter fraud exists. Does some asshole get the big idea to try to vote twice? Definitely. Is it an out of control problem swaying elections? Far from.

    This is just plain ignorance. There was upfront and blatant voter fraud during the primaries. If you don't know, do us all a favor, don't post.
    Just a word to the wise: Never a good idea to tell someone not to post here. Never goes over well.
    Aside from that... what do you mean by voter fraud? Are you talking about what you've been calling the rigged primaries? Because voter fraud is indeed when people try to go and vote more than once, i.e. vote on behalf of dead people and shit like that. The "rigged system" is something else entirely. I haven't seen anything suggesting that voter fraud was a problem during the primaries. If you saw that somewhere, please post.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    On that note since you guys don't want to check ID's, prove that it isn't happening.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    unsung said:

    On that note since you guys don't want to check ID's, prove that it isn't happening.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/study-finds-no-evidence-widespread-voter-fraud-n637776

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/us/voter-id-laws-donald-trump.html?_r=0

    http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/apr/07/mark-pocan/which-happens-more-people-struck-lightning-or-peop/


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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Yeah. What would I know about voter fraud. Election law only pays the mortgage for ledvedderman and ledvedderboy. Fuck me, right?

    Voters being required to show an ID that costs money to obtain is a poll tax. Flat and easy.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Free said:

    ledvedderman said:

    Please tell me how voter fraud exists. Does some asshole get the big idea to try to vote twice? Definitely. Is it an out of control problem swaying elections? Far from.

    This is just plain ignorance. There was upfront and blatant voter fraud during the primaries. If you don't know, do us all a favor, don't post.
    Post the proof. I don't know if you are right or wrong, but post the proof when asked about it versus trying to start an argument. To me your answer says you don't have any proof so you are just going to insult the person.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    My bad, getting voter suppression and voter fraud mixed up.

    http://billmoyers.com/story/voter-fraud-explained/
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,421
    mrussel1 said:

    JimmyV said:

    There is an alternate reality where Benghazi and the Clinton Foundation are the two greatest threats facing the Republic. The ironic thing is that if it were true we would actually be better off.

    That's a great point! There's also a whole contingent that believes that no only was Obama not born here, but he hasn't produced a certificate yet. CNN interviewed a couple of them. It was comical.
    That's the same contingent that believes that....
    President Obama is Muslim
    That Homosexuality is a choice.
    That President Obama is going to send U.N. troops to take their guns.
    That the Jews control the world's financial systems.
    That man didn't walk on the moon
    That 9/11 was a U.S. govt. conspiracy
    That President Obama was behind the Newtown massacre.
    And on and on and on

  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    edited October 2016
    Free said:

    My bad, getting voter suppression and voter fraud mixed up.

    http://billmoyers.com/story/voter-fraud-explained/

    Pardon my election ignorance yet again, buuuut how are you proving anything with this link? It explains the various types of fraud well and good but you're rambling about "rampant" voter fraud/suppression in the 2016 primaries is addressed in the first lines of the article.

    "Voter fraud is not rampant. In fact, voter fraud is so rare as to be effectively nonexistent. But the claim that voter fraud threatens the integrity of American elections is widespread, and is itself a deception"

    If you're just posting the link for informative reasons on the various types of fraud with no connection to your earlier claim of fraud in the primaries...my apologies.
    Post edited by ledvedderman on
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Awesome thread.
    Free said:

    My bad, getting voter suppression and voter fraud mixed up.

    http://billmoyers.com/story/voter-fraud-explained/

    Wait - didn't you tell someone to quit posting in one breath, then said you made a mistake on your end? (via "my bad").

    And then somewhere else (sorry, so many places this occurs), judged while crying over being judged?

    This thread among others, fascinating reads. The infighting sucks, bigtime.

    Hope the next month or so are less painful on these forums than the last couple.

    (but who am I kidding)

    I suppose I'm just, probably fruitlessly, hoping for some tiny bit of meeting of minds.

    Realistic side of me says, yeah right.

    Welcome to the jungle!
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,369
    Please Kat, I'm begging you!

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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    ledvedderman said:

    Free said:

    My bad, getting voter suppression and voter fraud mixed up.

    http://billmoyers.com/story/voter-fraud-explained/

    Pardon my election ignorance yet again, buuuut how are you proving anything with this link? It explains the various types of fraud well and good but you're rambling about "rampant" voter fraud/suppression in the 2016 primaries is addressed in the first lines of the article.

    "Voter fraud is not rampant. In fact, voter fraud is so rare as to be effectively nonexistent. But the claim that voter fraud threatens the integrity of American elections is widespread, and is itself a deception"

    If you're just posting the link for informative reasons on the various types of fraud with no connection to your earlier claim of fraud in the primaries...my apologies.
    I posted the informative article because there has been rampant voter suppression during the primaries.

    There are many articles about it where it happened in AZ, NY, and CA for starters. I don't have the time right now but I'll post them later. But you're right, voter fraud is nearly nonexistent after doing some research on it.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    benjs said:

    Please Kat, I'm begging you!

    https://vanillaforums.org/addon/ignore-plugin

    Yes, please.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Free said:

    benjs said:

    Please Kat, I'm begging you!

    https://vanillaforums.org/addon/ignore-plugin

    Yes, please.
    What does it do?
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