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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    ledvedderman said:

    How she feels about Bernie voters, huh? That name should ring a bell, I think. Oh. The guy that lost? Yeah. Bernie lost. If you really believe in him and what he stands for- you'd get over it and follow him in who he is voting for.

    Read: You'd sell out like your guy did and understand your place in The game.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    ledvedderman said:

    Unsung is the most cynical person I've ever encountered. If someone isn't Ron Paul in civic service, they're bought and bribed already.
    I've been in civic service for 12 years now and I can honestly say the majority of both parties are very respectful citizens.

    I prefer principled.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    ledvedderman said:

    Unsung is the most cynical person I've ever encountered. If someone isn't Ron Paul in civic service, they're bought and bribed already.
    I've been in civic service for 12 years now and I can honestly say the majority of both parties are very respectful citizens.

    I prefer principled.
    Still waiting for you to name all the societies and civilizations that existed without governments....
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    ledvedderman said:

    Unsung is the most cynical person I've ever encountered. If someone isn't Ron Paul in civic service, they're bought and bribed already.
    I've been in civic service for 12 years now and I can honestly say the majority of both parties are very respectful citizens.

    I prefer principled.
    Still waiting for you to name all the societies and civilizations that existed without governments....
    That's funny. Societies wouldn't exist without government. The human race would become extinct.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    unsung said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    ledvedderman said:

    Unsung is the most cynical person I've ever encountered. If someone isn't Ron Paul in civic service, they're bought and bribed already.
    I've been in civic service for 12 years now and I can honestly say the majority of both parties are very respectful citizens.

    I prefer principled.
    Still waiting for you to name all the societies and civilizations that existed without governments....
    That's funny. Societies wouldn't exist without government. The human race would become extinct.
    No human society exists without some sort of government, though the forms vary markedly. Socities don't exist without government; it's integral to what a society is. That doesn't mean that a lack of government would automatically lead to extinction, though it certainly could; it just means that humans would remain in small, probably family-based groups only.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2016
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    So you think generalizing an entire and large group of voters can be labeled "kids living in their parents basements". Here's some news for you. There are more baby boomers, Independents, and Generation Xers in that group than you can imagine. She has it all wrong, but you can keep believing what she says.
    Post edited by Free on
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    I guess you didn't know that the largest generation represented in the workforce is...you got it, millennials!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    So you think generalizing an entire and large group of voters can be labeled "kids living in their parents basements". Here's some news for you. There are more baby boomers, Independents, and Generation Xers in that group than you can imagine. She has it all wrong, but you can keep believing what she says.
    I am not saying that it is politically smart but is nice to hear a democratic candidate tell their base that there is no such thing as a free lunch. You can't just have free education or free healthcare. Everything comes at a cost and millenials need to know that. Bernie was only selling a bunch of nonsense and it's refreshing to hear a grown up in the democratic party to say it.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    So you think generalizing an entire and large group of voters can be labeled "kids living in their parents basements". Here's some news for you. There are more baby boomers, Independents, and Generation Xers in that group than you can imagine. She has it all wrong, but you can keep believing what she says.
    I am not saying that it is politically smart but is nice to hear a democratic candidate tell their base that there is no such thing as a free lunch. You can't just have free education or free healthcare. Everything comes at a cost and millenials need to know that. Bernie was only selling a bunch of nonsense and it's refreshing to hear a grown up in the democratic party to say it.
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    So you think generalizing an entire and large group of voters can be labeled "kids living in their parents basements". Here's some news for you. There are more baby boomers, Independents, and Generation Xers in that group than you can imagine. She has it all wrong, but you can keep believing what she says.
    I am not saying that it is politically smart but is nice to hear a democratic candidate tell their base that there is no such thing as a free lunch. You can't just have free education or free healthcare. Everything comes at a cost and millenials need to know that. Bernie was only selling a bunch of nonsense and it's refreshing to hear a grown up in the democratic party to say it.
    You have it all wrong. It doesn't matter. You'll choose to believe fairy tales because you choose to, and then say it's accurate. Whatev.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    So you think generalizing an entire and large group of voters can be labeled "kids living in their parents basements". Here's some news for you. There are more baby boomers, Independents, and Generation Xers in that group than you can imagine. She has it all wrong, but you can keep believing what she says.
    I am not saying that it is politically smart but is nice to hear a democratic candidate tell their base that there is no such thing as a free lunch. You can't just have free education or free healthcare. Everything comes at a cost and millenials need to know that. Bernie was only selling a bunch of nonsense and it's refreshing to hear a grown up in the democratic party to say it.
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    So you think generalizing an entire and large group of voters can be labeled "kids living in their parents basements". Here's some news for you. There are more baby boomers, Independents, and Generation Xers in that group than you can imagine. She has it all wrong, but you can keep believing what she says.
    I am not saying that it is politically smart but is nice to hear a democratic candidate tell their base that there is no such thing as a free lunch. You can't just have free education or free healthcare. Everything comes at a cost and millenials need to know that. Bernie was only selling a bunch of nonsense and it's refreshing to hear a grown up in the democratic party to say it.
    You have it all wrong. It doesn't matter. You'll choose to believe fairy tales because you choose to, and then say it's accurate. Whatev.
    "Whatev"...I had more faith in you then that Free.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    So you think generalizing an entire and large group of voters can be labeled "kids living in their parents basements". Here's some news for you. There are more baby boomers, Independents, and Generation Xers in that group than you can imagine. She has it all wrong, but you can keep believing what she says.
    I am not saying that it is politically smart but is nice to hear a democratic candidate tell their base that there is no such thing as a free lunch. You can't just have free education or free healthcare. Everything comes at a cost and millenials need to know that. Bernie was only selling a bunch of nonsense and it's refreshing to hear a grown up in the democratic party to say it.
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:


    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    How does she feel about Sanders supporters?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

    Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording

    I for one find this kind of talk refreshing. If she would speak like this about the left more often she could actually convince people like me to support her.
    You might support her if she put down and labeled more groups of voters? Or because she sounds like she's being honest because she thought no one could hear her?
    Because her summation of the left flank of the democratic base is correct. Someone needs to tell those kids in the basement to wake up.
    So you think generalizing an entire and large group of voters can be labeled "kids living in their parents basements". Here's some news for you. There are more baby boomers, Independents, and Generation Xers in that group than you can imagine. She has it all wrong, but you can keep believing what she says.
    I am not saying that it is politically smart but is nice to hear a democratic candidate tell their base that there is no such thing as a free lunch. You can't just have free education or free healthcare. Everything comes at a cost and millenials need to know that. Bernie was only selling a bunch of nonsense and it's refreshing to hear a grown up in the democratic party to say it.
    You have it all wrong. It doesn't matter. You'll choose to believe fairy tales because you choose to, and then say it's accurate. Whatev.
    "Whatev"...I had more faith in you then that Free.
    Hey, people are free to believe whatever they want.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    mrussel1 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, the Somalia statement.

    Your system ceases to exist if it were to be voluntary.

    Government: Ideas so great they'll force you to pay for them.

    what country currently operates under the economic system that you prefer?
    Ruby Ridge...
    Explain.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,426
    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, the Somalia statement.

    Your system ceases to exist if it were to be voluntary.

    Government: Ideas so great they'll force you to pay for them.

    what country currently operates under the economic system that you prefer?

    You don't really get forced to pay. You can elect to not make anything and they'll pay you. Winning!
    But they'll have their armed goon squads come and kidnap you first and throw you in a cage.

    Again, ideas so good you are forced to participate.
    Didn't answer the question asked of you, as usual. Another arrogant deflection.
    Yawn.

    Your candidate went from being flat broke when they moved out of the White House to be worth north of $250,000,000. How does someone who has a lifetime of "public service" gain so much wealth in such a short amount or time when their max "public service" salary was $400,000 a year?

    I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer.
    She did that by billing what the market would pay. Seems like you'd be in to that.
    Pay/bribed. Tomato/to(mah)to.
    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    unsung said:

    LOL, the Somalia statement.

    Your system ceases to exist if it were to be voluntary.

    Government: Ideas so great they'll force you to pay for them.

    what country currently operates under the economic system that you prefer?

    You don't really get forced to pay. You can elect to not make anything and they'll pay you. Winning!
    But they'll have their armed goon squads come and kidnap you first and throw you in a cage.

    Again, ideas so good you are forced to participate.
    Didn't answer the question asked of you, as usual. Another arrogant deflection.
    Yawn.

    Your candidate went from being flat broke when they moved out of the White House to be worth north of $250,000,000. How does someone who has a lifetime of "public service" gain so much wealth in such a short amount or time when their max "public service" salary was $400,000 a year?

    I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer.
    She did that by billing what the market would pay. Seems like you'd be in to that.
    Pay/bribed. Tomato/to(mah)to.
    Last I checked EVERY politician, no matter who they are or what they claim to represent, happily take money from "questionable" sources.

    EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM DO IT
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    So that makes it ok?
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    That's why Bernie was fantastic. He was all about getting money out of politics.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    And how'd that work out for him.

    Here's something I don't get, people praise Bernie for always staying true to his ideas, but this is a guy who considers himself a Democratic Socialist. He only comes around as a Democrat when he wants the backing that the party can give him. So he's selling out all he stands for so he can get democratic money and resources.
    E8toX.gif

    http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    ledvedderman said:

    And how'd that work out for him.

    Here's something I don't get, people praise Bernie for always staying true to his ideas, but this is a guy who considers himself a Democratic Socialist. He only comes around as a Democrat when he wants the backing that the party can give him. So he's selling out all he stands for so he can get democratic money and resources.

    Bernie ran as a Democrat because he believed that was the only possible why he might get elected and be able to put his ideas into practice, not to "get democratic money and resources". I'm sorry, but that notion is ridiculous and only shows that you really haven't followed what Sanders has been doing. It's OK with me if you want to throw out a notion like that but those noodles are not sticking to the fridge.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    ledvedderman said:

    And how'd that work out for him.

    Here's something I don't get, people praise Bernie for always staying true to his ideas, but this is a guy who considers himself a Democratic Socialist. He only comes around as a Democrat when he wants the backing that the party can give him. So he's selling out all he stands for so he can get democratic money and resources.

    We've only been talking about that and explaining it for about a year now. (Thanks, Brian) Apparently, the answer I gave to you when you said that ALL politicians accept money from questionable sources was not good enough? But it is true. Sanders did not only NOT take money but it was part of his platform to get money out of politics. If you dislike him, fine, but don't state untrue things when you don't know jack about his campaign. (It's obvious) Just saying. Obama got lobbyist money out of DNC campaigning, but DWS w/ Clinton repealed it.
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