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i think any time anything drastic occurs that upends the sociopolitical status quo, war is always a possiblt result. world war I it was an assassination. world war II hitler became fuhrer and he started claiming land for germany. some of it was given to him, he tried to take the rest through war."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
If England and France weren't so pissed off many they could have been a little more chill when drafting the treaty of Versailles. (But who could blame them)gimmesometruth27 said:i think any time anything drastic occurs that upends the sociopolitical status quo, war is always a possiblt result. world war I it was an assassination. world war II hitler became fuhrer and he started claiming land for germany. some of it was given to him, he tried to take the rest through war.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
yeah i always thought that treaty was very heavy handed. but many people would argue that germany deserved that treaty.mcgruff10 said:
If England and France weren't so pissed off many they could have been a little more chill when drafting the treaty of Versailles. (But who could blame them)gimmesometruth27 said:i think any time anything drastic occurs that upends the sociopolitical status quo, war is always a possiblt result. world war I it was an assassination. world war II hitler became fuhrer and he started claiming land for germany. some of it was given to him, he tried to take the rest through war.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Germany definitely deserved it but no harshness within the treat of versailles no hitter and probably no ww2 to the scale it was at. Japan would have probably started something in the pacific but I think Europe would have sat it out.gimmesometruth27 said:
yeah i always thought that treaty was very heavy handed. but many people would argue that germany deserved that treaty.mcgruff10 said:
If England and France weren't so pissed off many they could have been a little more chill when drafting the treaty of Versailles. (But who could blame them)gimmesometruth27 said:i think any time anything drastic occurs that upends the sociopolitical status quo, war is always a possiblt result. world war I it was an assassination. world war II hitler became fuhrer and he started claiming land for germany. some of it was given to him, he tried to take the rest through war.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
i agree. one begat the other. no harsh treaty, no hitler.mcgruff10 said:
Germany definitely deserved it but no harshness within the treat of versailles no hitter and probably no ww2 to the scale it was at. Japan would have probably started something in the pacific but I think Europe would have sat it out.gimmesometruth27 said:
yeah i always thought that treaty was very heavy handed. but many people would argue that germany deserved that treaty.mcgruff10 said:
If England and France weren't so pissed off many they could have been a little more chill when drafting the treaty of Versailles. (But who could blame them)gimmesometruth27 said:i think any time anything drastic occurs that upends the sociopolitical status quo, war is always a possiblt result. world war I it was an assassination. world war II hitler became fuhrer and he started claiming land for germany. some of it was given to him, he tried to take the rest through war.
the war in the pacific was probably going to happen. i think england would have helped us vs the japanese. but then italy would have probably started things in europe. it is fun to try to think of the what ifs?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
What if Germany doesn't invade Russia? The extinction of the European jew? German is the only language in Europe?gimmesometruth27 said:
i agree. one begat the other. no harsh treaty, no hitler.mcgruff10 said:
Germany definitely deserved it but no harshness within the treat of versailles no hitter and probably no ww2 to the scale it was at. Japan would have probably started something in the pacific but I think Europe would have sat it out.gimmesometruth27 said:
yeah i always thought that treaty was very heavy handed. but many people would argue that germany deserved that treaty.mcgruff10 said:
If England and France weren't so pissed off many they could have been a little more chill when drafting the treaty of Versailles. (But who could blame them)gimmesometruth27 said:i think any time anything drastic occurs that upends the sociopolitical status quo, war is always a possiblt result. world war I it was an assassination. world war II hitler became fuhrer and he started claiming land for germany. some of it was given to him, he tried to take the rest through war.
the war in the pacific was probably going to happen. i think england would have helped us vs the japanese. but then italy would have probably started things in europe. it is fun to try to think of the what ifs?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I'll take it a step further.If the Nazis don't invade Russia and the surrounding USSR countries,and the Jewish population does not need to flee.What would the Middle East look like now?mcgruff10 said:
What if Germany doesn't invade Russia? The extinction of the European jew? German is the only language in Europe?gimmesometruth27 said:
i agree. one begat the other. no harsh treaty, no hitler.mcgruff10 said:
Germany definitely deserved it but no harshness within the treat of versailles no hitter and probably no ww2 to the scale it was at. Japan would have probably started something in the pacific but I think Europe would have sat it out.gimmesometruth27 said:
yeah i always thought that treaty was very heavy handed. but many people would argue that germany deserved that treaty.mcgruff10 said:
If England and France weren't so pissed off many they could have been a little more chill when drafting the treaty of Versailles. (But who could blame them)gimmesometruth27 said:i think any time anything drastic occurs that upends the sociopolitical status quo, war is always a possiblt result. world war I it was an assassination. world war II hitler became fuhrer and he started claiming land for germany. some of it was given to him, he tried to take the rest through war.
the war in the pacific was probably going to happen. i think england would have helped us vs the japanese. but then italy would have probably started things in europe. it is fun to try to think of the what ifs?
France would still suck either way.0 -
never thought of it like that. wow. would the middle east be peaceful?rr165892 said:
I'll take it a step further.If the Nazis don't invade Russia and the surrounding USSR countries,and the Jewish population does not need to flee.What would the Middle East look like now?mcgruff10 said:
What if Germany doesn't invade Russia? The extinction of the European jew? German is the only language in Europe?gimmesometruth27 said:
i agree. one begat the other. no harsh treaty, no hitler.mcgruff10 said:
Germany definitely deserved it but no harshness within the treat of versailles no hitter and probably no ww2 to the scale it was at. Japan would have probably started something in the pacific but I think Europe would have sat it out.gimmesometruth27 said:
yeah i always thought that treaty was very heavy handed. but many people would argue that germany deserved that treaty.mcgruff10 said:
If England and France weren't so pissed off many they could have been a little more chill when drafting the treaty of Versailles. (But who could blame them)gimmesometruth27 said:i think any time anything drastic occurs that upends the sociopolitical status quo, war is always a possiblt result. world war I it was an assassination. world war II hitler became fuhrer and he started claiming land for germany. some of it was given to him, he tried to take the rest through war.
the war in the pacific was probably going to happen. i think england would have helped us vs the japanese. but then italy would have probably started things in europe. it is fun to try to think of the what ifs?
France would still suck either way.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Maybemcgruff10 said:
never thought of it like that. wow. would the middle east be peaceful?rr165892 said:
I'll take it a step further.If the Nazis don't invade Russia and the surrounding USSR countries,and the Jewish population does not need to flee.What would the Middle East look like now?mcgruff10 said:
What if Germany doesn't invade Russia? The extinction of the European jew? German is the only language in Europe?gimmesometruth27 said:
i agree. one begat the other. no harsh treaty, no hitler.mcgruff10 said:
Germany definitely deserved it but no harshness within the treat of versailles no hitter and probably no ww2 to the scale it was at. Japan would have probably started something in the pacific but I think Europe would have sat it out.gimmesometruth27 said:
yeah i always thought that treaty was very heavy handed. but many people would argue that germany deserved that treaty.mcgruff10 said:
If England and France weren't so pissed off many they could have been a little more chill when drafting the treaty of Versailles. (But who could blame them)gimmesometruth27 said:i think any time anything drastic occurs that upends the sociopolitical status quo, war is always a possiblt result. world war I it was an assassination. world war II hitler became fuhrer and he started claiming land for germany. some of it was given to him, he tried to take the rest through war.
the war in the pacific was probably going to happen. i think england would have helped us vs the japanese. but then italy would have probably started things in europe. it is fun to try to think of the what ifs?
France would still suck either way.
Maybe not
The issues in the Middle East were going on before WWII.
The British were in control of much of the area and might not have given up their territories so soon or so easily.Post edited by Bentleyspop on0 -
That's one question.What about radicalized islam? Would it be radicalized now? Would Europe be a mess? How Would the Cold War era have been different? Would nuclear build ups be different?
A lot of butterfly effect here.
In reality,Hitlers actions birthed the terror climate we face today.0 -
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True but no ww2 no creation of Israel. No creation of Israel no 9/11. No 9/11.....well damn. I love what ifs.Bentleyspop said:
Maybemcgruff10 said:
never thought of it like that. wow. would the middle east be peaceful?rr165892 said:
I'll take it a step further.If the Nazis don't invade Russia and the surrounding USSR countries,and the Jewish population does not need to flee.What would the Middle East look like now?mcgruff10 said:
What if Germany doesn't invade Russia? The extinction of the European jew? German is the only language in Europe?gimmesometruth27 said:
i agree. one begat the other. no harsh treaty, no hitler.mcgruff10 said:
Germany definitely deserved it but no harshness within the treat of versailles no hitter and probably no ww2 to the scale it was at. Japan would have probably started something in the pacific but I think Europe would have sat it out.gimmesometruth27 said:
yeah i always thought that treaty was very heavy handed. but many people would argue that germany deserved that treaty.mcgruff10 said:
If England and France weren't so pissed off many they could have been a little more chill when drafting the treaty of Versailles. (But who could blame them)gimmesometruth27 said:i think any time anything drastic occurs that upends the sociopolitical status quo, war is always a possiblt result. world war I it was an assassination. world war II hitler became fuhrer and he started claiming land for germany. some of it was given to him, he tried to take the rest through war.
the war in the pacific was probably going to happen. i think england would have helped us vs the japanese. but then italy would have probably started things in europe. it is fun to try to think of the what ifs?
France would still suck either way.
Maybe not
The issues in the Middle East were going on before WWII.
The British were in control of much of the area and might not have given up their territories so soon or so easily.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I know you have accepted someone elses answer.mickeyrat said:
To what does your question refer to?JUST A GIRL said:Did this even happen?
Until that is known how can anyone possibly answer?
I still want an answer to what I respectfully asked you.
Or is it you only engage with those you believe offended you?
This is probably the 5th question I've asked you without so much as a glance my way.
So by your way of thinking , you are bullying ME by ignoring my questions._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Big time bullying tactic on an entirely other level: exclusion.mickeyrat said:
I know you have accepted someone elses answer.mickeyrat said:
To what does your question refer to?JUST A GIRL said:Did this even happen?
Until that is known how can anyone possibly answer?
I still want an answer to what I respectfully asked you.
Or is it you only engage with those you believe offended you?
This is probably the 5th question I've asked you without so much as a glance my way.
So by your way of thinking , you are bullying ME by ignoring my questions."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Same here, mickey. I even asked nicely!mickeyrat said:
I know you have accepted someone elses answer.mickeyrat said:
To what does your question refer to?JUST A GIRL said:Did this even happen?
Until that is known how can anyone possibly answer?
I still want an answer to what I respectfully asked you.
Or is it you only engage with those you believe offended you?
This is probably the 5th question I've asked you without so much as a glance my way.
So by your way of thinking , you are bullying ME by ignoring my questions.
I figure some are deemed deserving of acknowledgement. Us lowlifes, not so much
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I'd advise following my policy and not wasting your time or energymickeyrat said:
I know you have accepted someone elses answer.mickeyrat said:
To what does your question refer to?JUST A GIRL said:Did this even happen?
Until that is known how can anyone possibly answer?
I still want an answer to what I respectfully asked you.
Or is it you only engage with those you believe offended you?
This is probably the 5th question I've asked you without so much as a glance my way.
So by your way of thinking , you are bullying ME by ignoring my questions.
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+1jnimhaoileoin said:
I'd advise following my policy and not wasting your time or energymickeyrat said:
I know you have accepted someone elses answer.mickeyrat said:
To what does your question refer to?JUST A GIRL said:Did this even happen?
Until that is known how can anyone possibly answer?
I still want an answer to what I respectfully asked you.
Or is it you only engage with those you believe offended you?
This is probably the 5th question I've asked you without so much as a glance my way.
So by your way of thinking , you are bullying ME by ignoring my questions.0 -
Everyone should watch Band of Brothers. A unit so legendary that there are statues and plaques all over Europe dedicated to this group of Men. Its unreal that those guys came home, got regular jobs and never even told their families about their experiences until the book and show exposed them. Humble dudes right there
thank a WWII vet every chance you can. I was just at the National WWII museum last weekend. Saw a few 90+ year old vets limping around but eager to talk to anyone.0 -
My grandfather fought against the Japanese in the Philipines. Grew up with awful stories about the Japanese raping the female citizens. Burying people up to their necks in sand and decapitating them.
War is ugly but sometimes absolutely necessary. He never agreed with Vietnam but 100% supported our involvement in WWII. The Allies saved scores of people worldwide.0 -
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