The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.
The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
You asked a rather vague question and then failed to answer my question in return. You asked "Did this even happen?" Would you like to explain your question?
The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.
The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
Oh for goodness' sake. Get over yourself. No one is bullying you. You made an idiotic remark and you always post combative material. I'm not bullying you, I simply don't like you because you always post stupid crap like this. If anyone is guilty of bullying, it's you. You are ALWAYS combative. I'm just calling you out on it.
Now it's a personal attack. You're saying how you don't like me. All I did was ask a question.
Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.
I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
I will always risk getting fried on these boards (yes, it's happened)
Yes. War is terrible and there is no need for it.
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The more I read about history, the more I'm convinced that war is a game of the wealthy, that it has nothing to do with the common person, and that there have been no honorable or justifiable wars. All the jingoism around war is concocted to keep the masses in line with this game.
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The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.
The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
Oh for goodness' sake. Get over yourself. No one is bullying you. You made an idiotic remark and you always post combative material. I'm not bullying you, I simply don't like you because you always post stupid crap like this. If anyone is guilty of bullying, it's you. You are ALWAYS combative. I'm just calling you out on it.
Now it's a personal attack. You're saying how you don't like me. All I did was ask a question.
Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.
I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
JAG, you are right, there is no need to take this for just asking a question. (Continue to Rock on to your Christian Rock tunes)!
War is terrible. OP, any history book will answer your questions about WW2.
The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.
The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
And I believe a question was asked of you.... Please clarify your question.
Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.
I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
The only person who has brought up your faith in this thread is you. No one has attacked your faith in this thread.
1) I've seen this brought up in a few other threads and it's a great topic. I believe war is not caused by religion, nationalism or anything such as that. War is caused by very few men looking for power and wealth.....who manipulate the majority through excuses such as religion and nationalism to war with others.
2) Band Of Brothers is the single best war series I have ever seen.
The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.
The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
Oh for goodness' sake. Get over yourself. No one is bullying you. You made an idiotic remark and you always post combative material. I'm not bullying you, I simply don't like you because you always post stupid crap like this. If anyone is guilty of bullying, it's you. You are ALWAYS combative. I'm just calling you out on it.
Now it's a personal attack. You're saying how you don't like me. All I did was ask a question.
Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.
I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
You have in the past and continue to post things of truculence and I am simply calling it into question. My opinion of you, based on such posts, is not an attack, it's an observation. Perhaps I was a bit harsh in expressing that and for that I am sorry. There was no mention of your faith anywhere at any time so I'm not sure why that was brought up. What a person believes in has no bearing on how I see them. I would never question you for that. I believe in upholding a person's right to freedom of religion.
The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.
The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
Oh for goodness' sake. Get over yourself. No one is bullying you. You made an idiotic remark and you always post combative material. I'm not bullying you, I simply don't like you because you always post stupid crap like this. If anyone is guilty of bullying, it's you. You are ALWAYS combative. I'm just calling you out on it.
Now it's a personal attack. You're saying how you don't like me. All I did was ask a question.
Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.
I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
Come on. Give us something. Can we at least attack your bible rock?
The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.
The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
Oh for goodness' sake. Get over yourself. No one is bullying you. You made an idiotic remark and you always post combative material. I'm not bullying you, I simply don't like you because you always post stupid crap like this. If anyone is guilty of bullying, it's you. You are ALWAYS combative. I'm just calling you out on it.
Now it's a personal attack. You're saying how you don't like me. All I did was ask a question.
Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.
I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
Come on. Give us something. Can we at least attack your bible rock?
Bible rock?
And you've done more than enough bashing of "dumb ass Christians" for one lifetime.
My faith is brought up because religion = war. That's what you said. And I said please don't insult Christians on my day of worship, Sunday.
That's why it's being discussed.
Remember that it was the Romans in the midst of their own holy war that decided to crucify Jesus due to not agreeing with his beliefs. Don't do the same thing.
The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.
The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
Oh for goodness' sake. Get over yourself. No one is bullying you. You made an idiotic remark and you always post combative material. I'm not bullying you, I simply don't like you because you always post stupid crap like this. If anyone is guilty of bullying, it's you. You are ALWAYS combative. I'm just calling you out on it.
Now it's a personal attack. You're saying how you don't like me. All I did was ask a question.
Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.
I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
Come on. Give us something. Can we at least attack your bible rock?
Bible rock?
And you've done more than enough bashing of "dumb ass Christians" for one lifetime.
My faith is brought up because religion = war. That's what you said. And I said please don't insult Christians on my day of worship, Sunday.
That's why it's being discussed.
Remember that it was the Romans in the midst of their own holy war that decided to crucify Jesus due to not agreeing with his beliefs. Don't do the same thing.
I have not attacked your religion, so would you please clarify your question?
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memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.
The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
Oh for goodness' sake. Get over yourself. No one is bullying you. You made an idiotic remark and you always post combative material. I'm not bullying you, I simply don't like you because you always post stupid crap like this. If anyone is guilty of bullying, it's you. You are ALWAYS combative. I'm just calling you out on it.
Now it's a personal attack. You're saying how you don't like me. All I did was ask a question.
Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.
I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
Come on. Give us something. Can we at least attack your bible rock?
Bible rock?
And you've done more than enough bashing of "dumb ass Christians" for one lifetime.
My faith is brought up because religion = war. That's what you said. And I said please don't insult Christians on my day of worship, Sunday.
That's why it's being discussed.
Remember that it was the Romans in the midst of their own holy war that decided to crucify Jesus due to not agreeing with his beliefs. Don't do the same thing.
I've definitely attacked religion. But I'm not the person who you accuse of making the comment that's got you huffy.
And lighten up. I was clowning around with you with my last post.
Edit: wait a minute... when have I ever used the term 'dumb ass Christians'? You can infer what you want from my attacks on religion, but don't place words in my mouth.
The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.
The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
Oh for goodness' sake. Get over yourself. No one is bullying you. You made an idiotic remark and you always post combative material. I'm not bullying you, I simply don't like you because you always post stupid crap like this. If anyone is guilty of bullying, it's you. You are ALWAYS combative. I'm just calling you out on it.
Now it's a personal attack. You're saying how you don't like me. All I did was ask a question.
Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.
I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
I feel a flag coming on. Watch out Dyer.
JAG, when people say that they don't like you, it isn't an attack. It is just how someone feels. I'm sure that there are plenty of people on here that you don't care for. When you ask a question and people are asking for clarification, you think it is an attack. It is not an attack. They are asking for specifics.
No religion was brought up until you had at this point.
God and Jesus are totally my people, but my book about them doesn't tell me to bait, attack and jump up and down in a tantrum.
May peace be with you and in your soul. I think that AMT is not a peaceful place for you. I think it makes you anxious and angry. May the Lord guide you to where He feels you can best use the talents He gave to you and feel the peace and love in your heart that He intends you to.
Yes, WWII happened. Yes, the Holocaust happened. Yes, Easy Company was a real batallion. Yes, I believe OP watching Band of Brothers & The Pacific happened. Yes, this thread happened.
I have not been to Anne Frank's house in Amsterdam but I'd like to go. I have been to the beaches and cemeteries of Normandy. Talk about being humbled.
OP, sorry the thread got a little off hand for a moment. The thoughts and questions you raise are often things I think about as well. Why the world is still full of people who are bound by greed, militance, self-absorption, & self-righteousness is beyond me. By expressing your thoughts, I understand you may not necessarily be looking for answers. But expression and wonder are great ways to find others who question the same things.
Perhaps we'll never know the answers. But it is always good to raise the questions. And you'll be met with resistance, but don't let that deter you.
Sometimes I wonder if people really believe some of the things they say and do. Not just on a silly little band forum, but all over the world. It's really scary if they do because those types of people - the contrarions, trolls, etc - are the obstructors of progress. But the fact there are people like you in the world who question these types of people and their actions means there is always hope for the better!
Dignin, you make a very excellent point about wealth & power being the reasons for war and the use of religion & nationalism as a veil to justify the those reasons. I think a lot of us get caught up in the religion=war argument but I'm having a hard time buying that as well. The few religions I have any knowledge of all have messages of peace and selflessness, which are the opposite of war, power, & negative influence. I believe you are onto something here and it makes for great discussion.
There's too much to comment on in this thread. OP, Band of Brothers is one of the best things I've ever seen on TV. And how do you even think about talking about war - it's such a vast, unexplainable thing. I'm reading a book called KL: A History of Nazi Concentration Camps and it's great, but really difficult reading.
My dad fought in WWII. That really happened, btw. He was in the Pacific prepping for the invasion of Japan when they dropped the bombs.
This is long, but it's part of a letter from my dad to his mom, dated April 27, 1945. He's in Manila.
"The trip to the city was enlightening in as much as it gave me a first hand picture of the destruction wrought thru total war. You’ll never have the real picture until you’re actually in the midst of it. It’s a god damn mess that hurts and then makes you mad. Try to picture the block of the Schenley Apartments [where his family lived in Pittsburgh] multiplied by several more blocks just like it, a mass of shattered rubble. Sections blasted completely away, others just shells with gaping holes, while in the midst just for incongruity a small Spanish styled residence, walled in and entered thru a wrought iron gate that opens into a lovely patio garden full of luxuriant growth and the usual naked babies which would have been squirting water if the city water system had been running, scattered thru it. All of this was untouched except for one hole in the wall. To the right as you entered was the resident itself while on the other side of the patio were the stables. One of our platoon CPs was housed there – the EM [enlisted men?] quartered in the stalls – tiled with oaken, hand carved swinging doors, while the officers were upstairs in the servants’ quarters – tiled, fresh toilet, etc. The servants’ kitchen served as a message center and switchboard set up. God makes us thankful for little things."
Yes, WWII happened. Yes, the Holocaust happened. Yes, Easy Company was a real batallion. Yes, I believe OP watching Band of Brothers & The Pacific happened. Yes, this thread happened.
Speaking of WWII, has anyone here visited the Anne Frank "house" in Amsterdam?
My husband went to the Anne Frank house. He was a 20 year old smartass college boy hanging out in Europe and he said he was completely undone by the experience. He still talks about how shocking and sad it is.
Speaking of WWII, has anyone here visited the Anne Frank "house" in Amsterdam?
My husband went to the Anne Frank house. He was a 20 year old smartass college boy hanging out in Europe and he said he was completely undone by the experience. He still talks about how shocking and sad it is.
That's how I felt too (was a 23-year-old smartass myself). To be there, in that space?
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Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.
I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
Yes. War is terrible and there is no need for it.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
War is terrible.
OP, any history book will answer your questions about WW2.
I'll ask again: please clarify your question.
2) Band Of Brothers is the single best war series I have ever seen.
3)
We're nearing a time when all (real!) WWII vets will be gone. Holocaust survivors no longer alive.
So important to ask and learn of this crucial slice of history.
The whole historical fucking pie, actually.
(cool whip on mine, please)
I'd throw ego in there too.
And BoB is added to my list of "shit I really need to watch".
There was no mention of your faith anywhere at any time so I'm not sure why that was brought up. What a person believes in has no bearing on how I see them. I would never question you for that. I believe in upholding a person's right to freedom of religion.
Done here.
I can't recommend it enough.
And you've done more than enough bashing of "dumb ass Christians" for one lifetime.
My faith is brought up because religion = war. That's what you said. And I said please don't insult Christians on my day of worship, Sunday.
That's why it's being discussed.
Remember that it was the Romans in the midst of their own holy war that decided to crucify Jesus due to not agreeing with his beliefs. Don't do the same thing.
Until that is known how can anyone possibly answer?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
And lighten up. I was clowning around with you with my last post.
Edit: wait a minute... when have I ever used the term 'dumb ass Christians'? You can infer what you want from my attacks on religion, but don't place words in my mouth.
JAG, when people say that they don't like you, it isn't an attack. It is just how someone feels. I'm sure that there are plenty of people on here that you don't care for. When you ask a question and people are asking for clarification, you think it is an attack. It is not an attack. They are asking for specifics.
No religion was brought up until you had at this point.
God and Jesus are totally my people, but my book about them doesn't tell me to bait, attack and jump up and down in a tantrum.
May peace be with you and in your soul. I think that AMT is not a peaceful place for you. I think it makes you anxious and angry. May the Lord guide you to where He feels you can best use the talents He gave to you and feel the peace and love in your heart that He intends you to.
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Yes, the Holocaust happened.
Yes, Easy Company was a real batallion.
Yes, I believe OP watching Band of Brothers & The Pacific happened.
Yes, this thread happened.
All clear, now?
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But, it does. For better (in so many cases right here on these boards) or worse (sparsely).
And, I guess lack of response to a simple, direct question is a response in itself.
Speaking of WWII, has anyone here visited the Anne Frank "house" in Amsterdam?
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Perhaps we'll never know the answers. But it is always good to raise the questions. And you'll be met with resistance, but don't let that deter you.
Sometimes I wonder if people really believe some of the things they say and do. Not just on a silly little band forum, but all over the world. It's really scary if they do because those types of people - the contrarions, trolls, etc - are the obstructors of progress. But the fact there are people like you in the world who question these types of people and their actions means there is always hope for the better!
Dignin, you make a very excellent point about wealth & power being the reasons for war and the use of religion & nationalism as a veil to justify the those reasons. I think a lot of us get caught up in the religion=war argument but I'm having a hard time buying that as well. The few religions I have any knowledge of all have messages of peace and selflessness, which are the opposite of war, power, & negative influence. I believe you are onto something here and it makes for great discussion.
My dad fought in WWII. That really happened, btw. He was in the Pacific prepping for the invasion of Japan when they dropped the bombs.
This is long, but it's part of a letter from my dad to his mom, dated April 27, 1945. He's in Manila.
"The trip to the city was enlightening in as much as it gave me a first hand picture of the destruction wrought thru total war. You’ll never have the real picture until you’re actually in the midst of it. It’s a god damn mess that hurts and then makes you mad. Try to picture the block of the Schenley Apartments [where his family lived in Pittsburgh] multiplied by several more blocks just like it, a mass of shattered rubble. Sections blasted completely away, others just shells with gaping holes, while in the midst just for incongruity a small Spanish styled residence, walled in and entered thru a wrought iron gate that opens into a lovely patio garden full of luxuriant growth and the usual naked babies which would have been squirting water if the city water system had been running, scattered thru it. All of this was untouched except for one hole in the wall. To the right as you entered was the resident itself while on the other side of the patio were the stables. One of our platoon CPs was housed there – the EM [enlisted men?] quartered in the stalls – tiled with oaken, hand carved swinging doors, while the officers were upstairs in the servants’ quarters – tiled, fresh toilet, etc. The servants’ kitchen served as a message center and switchboard set up. God makes us thankful for little things."
Swear the energy remains, in some way.
Well hell. Words flood me, and none suffice.