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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Every time I get impatient driving... I make sure I'm not getting impatient with an older gentleman.

    For all I know... they were storming the beaches of Normandy.

    It's sad that crusty old white haired rich men send young men out to kill and die for pride or profit. It's f**king brutal really.

    Don't get me wrong... some hands are forced. But the aggressors are hardly ever on the side of righteousness.

    Right on.
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    mcgruff10 said:

    Band of brothers is awesome; I show three episodes of it when teaching about ww2. Check out saving private next. A lot of vets say that s the movie that comes closest to the real thing. If you want to see what Vietnam was like, go for we were soldiers. Again vets I ve talked to said that s the closest to the real thing.

    Will do, thanks
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,498
    JUST A GIRL said:

    Did this even happen?

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.

    The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    My father was a Vietnam vet,enlisted 2 tours.My grandfather was in WW2 and was part of Battle of the Bulge.
    My dad deflected when I used to ask him about it.My grandfather was a bit more vocal and I think he saw some horrible shit.I know he always hated the Nazis and what they did to the Jewish people.He was upfront about some of the violence by his infantry unit and told me some stories of "krauts" they had battled up close.As a Jew And an American I know he felt a responsibility.(I think I respect that more than anything)
    After his death I happened upon his "war stuff" in a box in a storage room.Based on the amount of Nazi stuff I found It appears indeed he was thick in the shit.And he must have stripped the soldiers he personally overtaken of their arm bands ,swastikas and medals.It was quite eye opening and sobering.There is film in there I haven't watched and details of some battles along with certain clippings,news stories and the like.
    When It comes to WW2 I think It really showed the U.S. At its worst before our involvement (Letting Hitler advance and ethnically cleanse) and At its best during the war,with exception of certain internment camps here in the states.We really were one at that time and showed our patriotic best.and like 30 said,I also try to show my respect to the older generations that did serve to keep our freedoms safe.Its the very least we can do.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Damn, rr. What history in your family. I don't blame you for not having (yet?) watched the film.

    My dad was pretty open with what he experienced during actual war - so glad we talked about it but wish I'd asked more - yet mouth zipped on the intelligence work he did after.

    Still would like JAG to step up to her questioning of this "even happening".

    Talk about being a victim - there were way WAY too many victims in that time. True ones.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited September 2015
    Hedo, I am so proud and intrigued that I rummaged the books and treasures to find an inspiration for some new ink.(I think I found some) as tribute to a great man.But more I dig the more questions I have.

    It's funny you speak(or don't) of your fathers intelligence connection.My father was reported to be attached to a mechanical outpost near the China Beach Medical Outpost.Everything I could dig up was it was front cover for other activities.Like I said he didn't talk much.But I found a lot of sniper and marksmen stuff ,medals etc in his trinkets.Stuff a heavy jungle clearing mechanical unit shouldn't or wouldn't have.
    I met a vet years ago,when my mom ran a support group who said the area and unit in question was indeed knee deep in the action.And as I've posted previously my dad did eventually die of complications of Agent Orange exposure.
  • JUST A GIRL
    JUST A GIRL Posts: 372
    HesCalledDyer said:

    JUST A GIRL said:

    Did this even happen?

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.

    The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
    Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    War is a terrible waste. I will always risk getting fried on these boards (yes, it's happened) standing up for peace.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    JUST A GIRL said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    JUST A GIRL said:

    Did this even happen?

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.

    The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
    Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
    So (and asked in a very gentle, non-bullying way), what would prompt such a question?
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,498
    edited September 2015
    JUST A GIRL said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    JUST A GIRL said:

    Did this even happen?

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.

    The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
    Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
    Oh for goodness' sake. Get over yourself. No one is bullying you. You made an idiotic remark and you always post combative material. I'm not bullying you, I simply don't like you because you always post stupid crap like this. If anyone is guilty of bullying, it's you. You are ALWAYS combative. I'm just calling you out on it.
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    JUST A GIRL said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    JUST A GIRL said:

    Did this even happen?

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.

    The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
    Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
    You asked a rather vague question and then failed to answer my question in return. You asked "Did this even happen?" Would you like to explain your question?
  • JUST A GIRL
    JUST A GIRL Posts: 372
    edited September 2015
    HesCalledDyer said:

    JUST A GIRL said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    JUST A GIRL said:

    Did this even happen?

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.

    The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
    Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
    Oh for goodness' sake. Get over yourself. No one is bullying you. You made an idiotic remark and you always post combative material. I'm not bullying you, I simply don't like you because you always post stupid crap like this. If anyone is guilty of bullying, it's you. You are ALWAYS combative. I'm just calling you out on it.
    Now it's a personal attack. You're saying how you don't like me. All I did was ask a question.

    Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.

    I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
    Post edited by JUST A GIRL on
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    brianlux said:

    I will always risk getting fried on these boards (yes, it's happened)

    :rofl:

    Yes. War is terrible and there is no need for it.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    The more I read about history, the more I'm convinced that war is a game of the wealthy, that it has nothing to do with the common person, and that there have been no honorable or justifiable wars. All the jingoism around war is concocted to keep the masses in line with this game.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited September 2015
    JUST A GIRL said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    JUST A GIRL said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    JUST A GIRL said:

    Did this even happen?

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.

    The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
    Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
    Oh for goodness' sake. Get over yourself. No one is bullying you. You made an idiotic remark and you always post combative material. I'm not bullying you, I simply don't like you because you always post stupid crap like this. If anyone is guilty of bullying, it's you. You are ALWAYS combative. I'm just calling you out on it.
    Now it's a personal attack. You're saying how you don't like me. All I did was ask a question.

    Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.

    I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.
    JAG, you are right, there is no need to take this for just asking a question. (Continue to Rock on to your Christian Rock tunes)!

    War is terrible.
    OP, any history book will answer your questions about WW2.
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • SD48277
    SD48277 Posts: 12,243
    JUST A GIRL said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    JUST A GIRL said:

    Did this even happen?

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    The OP who has questions after watching band of brothers and admits they live in a bubble and has been untouched by such horror is subject to big-boy questions.

    The shit that the two of you consistently spew on here baffles me. Why do you have to be such contrarions??
    Please don't start with the bullying. I'm not spewing shit, I asked a question.
    And I believe a question was asked of you.... Please clarify your question.
    JUST A GIRL said:


    Now I've been bullied (by claiming I spew shit) and then attacked saying how you don't like me. That's not following the posting guidelines and hurts my feeling. This always seems to happen on Sunday, the lords day when I have my Christian Rock tunes on and am enjoying spending time proclaiming my love for God and Jesus.

    I'll ask again, please don't personally attack me or my faith.

    The only person who has brought up your faith in this thread is you. No one has attacked your faith in this thread.

    I'll ask again: please clarify your question.
    ELITIST FUK
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    1) I've seen this brought up in a few other threads and it's a great topic. I believe war is not caused by religion, nationalism or anything such as that. War is caused by very few men looking for power and wealth.....who manipulate the majority through excuses such as religion and nationalism to war with others.

    2) Band Of Brothers is the single best war series I have ever seen.

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Ain't gonna happen, Sister Soul SD.

    We're nearing a time when all (real!) WWII vets will be gone. Holocaust survivors no longer alive.

    So important to ask and learn of this crucial slice of history.

    The whole historical fucking pie, actually.

    (cool whip on mine, please)
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Nice one, dignin.

    I'd throw ego in there too.

    And BoB is added to my list of "shit I really need to watch".
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    hedonist said:

    Nice one, dignin.

    I'd throw ego in there too.

    And BoB is added to my list of "shit I really need to watch".

    I've never seen it either

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