Refugee crisis
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Have you read all 44 pages of that report?0
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Nope, just the summary. Ain't got time for that.Last-12-Exit said:Have you read all 44 pages of that report?
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Last time I checked there are a lot of cities in the states.....and a lot of small communities too. What's your population now? Over 300 million right? I'm sure you could absorb a few 100 thousand into your borg melting pot. And your economy would be better for it.Last-12-Exit said:
So you're talking about roughly 5000 people total? How many syrian refugees do you want to put in Cleveland at once? How does a city get picked if the US decides to transport the Syrians here?dignin said:
Check page 20 of the paper I cited. It has a breakdown.Last-12-Exit said:Not that it matters, but where are all of these refugees coming from that are in Cleveland? Are they all syrian? How is that even calculated?
Refugees settled in the Cleveland area have come from all corners of the world. Of the total refugees settled, the largest group (1,973 refugees) came from Asian countries. In number of refugees by country, the Asian nations of Bhutan ranked the first and Burma ranked third. The next largest group (1,433 refugees) came from Europe, primarily from former communist countries such as Ukraine, Russia, and Bosnia & Herzegovina. African countries contributed 1,101 refugees to the Cleveland area over this period, from counties including Somalia, Sudan, and Burundi.
You asked for evidence, I gave it to you. Can you show me the evidence to back up your claim that they could be welfare leaches?
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In my defense, where was it that I called them welfare leeches? Was it this post?Last-12-Exit said:I understand the humanitarian aspect of this. I just don't think its a good idea to throw a lot of people into this country that don't know the langauge or the culture and expect there not to have major issues. What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?
I'd be more supportive of sending money to the countries in Europe that are willing go take these people in. It is a hell of a lot more convenient for the nearby countries to do this. It doesn't make sense to ship people 4,000 miles away when there are countries a lot closer that can.0 -
well it's on the internet it must be true.....I still call bullshit.dignin said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-portes/economic-europe-refugees_b_8128288.htmlLast-12-Exit said:
What evidence?dignin said:
You're right. You just implied that they would be welfare sucks. When all evidence proves otherwise.Last-12-Exit said:
I didn't claim they were threatening my way of life. I said I don't think it's cost effective to bring them here.dignin said:Last-12-Exit said:I understand the humanitarian aspect of this. I just don't think its a good idea to throw a lot of people into this country that don't know the langauge or the culture and expect there not to have major issues. What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?
I'd be more supportive of sending money to the countries in Europe that are willing go take these people in. It is a hell of a lot more convenient for the nearby countries to do this. It doesn't make sense to ship people 4,000 miles away when there are countries a lot closer that can.
Lot's of links in the article posted.
Godfather.
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Haha, that's all you got? You know we are all on the internet right? That's some weak shit right there. Why even pretend you read anything that was posted?Godfather. said:
well it's on the internet it must be true.....I still call bullshit.dignin said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-portes/economic-europe-refugees_b_8128288.htmlLast-12-Exit said:
What evidence?dignin said:
You're right. You just implied that they would be welfare sucks. When all evidence proves otherwise.Last-12-Exit said:
I didn't claim they were threatening my way of life. I said I don't think it's cost effective to bring them here.dignin said:Last-12-Exit said:I understand the humanitarian aspect of this. I just don't think its a good idea to throw a lot of people into this country that don't know the langauge or the culture and expect there not to have major issues. What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?
I'd be more supportive of sending money to the countries in Europe that are willing go take these people in. It is a hell of a lot more convenient for the nearby countries to do this. It doesn't make sense to ship people 4,000 miles away when there are countries a lot closer that can.
Lot's of links in the article posted.
Godfather.
It's no surprise that you wouldn't believe a conclusion based in science. You know how ignorant that sounds right?0 -
What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?Last-12-Exit said:
In my defense, where was it that I called them welfare leeches? Was it this post?Last-12-Exit said:I understand the humanitarian aspect of this. I just don't think its a good idea to throw a lot of people into this country that don't know the langauge or the culture and expect there not to have major issues. What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?
I'd be more supportive of sending money to the countries in Europe that are willing go take these people in. It is a hell of a lot more convenient for the nearby countries to do this. It doesn't make sense to ship people 4,000 miles away when there are countries a lot closer that can.
I think the inference is pretty clear. But if I'm wrong I apologize.0 -
hay now ! you know I read FAXNEWS ! and it's on the internet LOL !!!!!dignin said:
Haha, that's all you got? You know we are all on the internet right? That's some weak shit right there. Why even pretend you read anything that was posted?Godfather. said:
well it's on the internet it must be true.....I still call bullshit.dignin said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-portes/economic-europe-refugees_b_8128288.htmlLast-12-Exit said:
What evidence?dignin said:
You're right. You just implied that they would be welfare sucks. When all evidence proves otherwise.Last-12-Exit said:
I didn't claim they were threatening my way of life. I said I don't think it's cost effective to bring them here.dignin said:Last-12-Exit said:I understand the humanitarian aspect of this. I just don't think its a good idea to throw a lot of people into this country that don't know the langauge or the culture and expect there not to have major issues. What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?
I'd be more supportive of sending money to the countries in Europe that are willing go take these people in. It is a hell of a lot more convenient for the nearby countries to do this. It doesn't make sense to ship people 4,000 miles away when there are countries a lot closer that can.
Lot's of links in the article posted.
Godfather.
It's no surprise that you wouldn't believe a conclusion based in science. You know how ignorant that sounds right?
but on a serious note I really have a hard time believing that all those refugees will boost anybody's economy unless you consider crime an economy booster....and don't tell me they is no crime associated with these immigrant, don't make me copy and past FAXNEWS stories LOL !!!!.
Godfather.
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I'm not claiming they are leeches. I'm saying our government can easily turn them into leeches. Big difference.dignin said:
What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?Last-12-Exit said:
In my defense, where was it that I called them welfare leeches? Was it this post?Last-12-Exit said:I understand the humanitarian aspect of this. I just don't think its a good idea to throw a lot of people into this country that don't know the langauge or the culture and expect there not to have major issues. What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?
I'd be more supportive of sending money to the countries in Europe that are willing go take these people in. It is a hell of a lot more convenient for the nearby countries to do this. It doesn't make sense to ship people 4,000 miles away when there are countries a lot closer that can.
I think the inference is pretty clear. But if I'm wrong I apologize.0 -
Ya because Muslims are the ONLY criminals in the world. Not your fucked up buddy GWB or his partner in crime tricky dicky who lied to the world and nearly bankrupted the entire country all while making their buddies super rich. Oh and let's not forget that these same refugees are running from a country that somehow has been torn apart by the same fucken people you admire. What a sick world we live in. One things for sure. Gf's prgramming is firing on all cylinders.Godfather. said:
hay now ! you know I read FAXNEWS ! and it's on the internet LOL !!!!!dignin said:
Haha, that's all you got? You know we are all on the internet right? That's some weak shit right there. Why even pretend you read anything that was posted?Godfather. said:
well it's on the internet it must be true.....I still call bullshit.dignin said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-portes/economic-europe-refugees_b_8128288.htmlLast-12-Exit said:
What evidence?dignin said:
You're right. You just implied that they would be welfare sucks. When all evidence proves otherwise.Last-12-Exit said:
I didn't claim they were threatening my way of life. I said I don't think it's cost effective to bring them here.dignin said:Last-12-Exit said:I understand the humanitarian aspect of this. I just don't think its a good idea to throw a lot of people into this country that don't know the langauge or the culture and expect there not to have major issues. What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?
I'd be more supportive of sending money to the countries in Europe that are willing go take these people in. It is a hell of a lot more convenient for the nearby countries to do this. It doesn't make sense to ship people 4,000 miles away when there are countries a lot closer that can.
Lot's of links in the article posted.
Godfather.
It's no surprise that you wouldn't believe a conclusion based in science. You know how ignorant that sounds right?
but on a serious note I really have a hard time believing that all those refugees will boost anybody's economy unless you consider crime an economy booster....and don't tell me they is no crime associated with these immigrant, don't make me copy and past FAXNEWS stories LOL !!!!.
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well, you said it not me......how's life treating you lately ? you seem so angry all the time, may I recommend vitamin B complex ? helps with stress related issues. hope all is well.badbrains said:
Ya because Muslims are the ONLY criminals in the world. Not your fucked up buddy GWB or his partner in crime tricky dicky who lied to the world and nearly bankrupted the entire country all while making their buddies super rich. Oh and let's not forget that these same refugees are running from a country that somehow has been torn apart by the same fucken people you admire. What a sick world we live in. One things for sure. Gf's prgramming is firing on all cylinders.Godfather. said:
hay now ! you know I read FAXNEWS ! and it's on the internet LOL !!!!!dignin said:
Haha, that's all you got? You know we are all on the internet right? That's some weak shit right there. Why even pretend you read anything that was posted?Godfather. said:
well it's on the internet it must be true.....I still call bullshit.dignin said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-portes/economic-europe-refugees_b_8128288.htmlLast-12-Exit said:
What evidence?dignin said:
You're right. You just implied that they would be welfare sucks. When all evidence proves otherwise.Last-12-Exit said:
I didn't claim they were threatening my way of life. I said I don't think it's cost effective to bring them here.dignin said:Last-12-Exit said:I understand the humanitarian aspect of this. I just don't think its a good idea to throw a lot of people into this country that don't know the langauge or the culture and expect there not to have major issues. What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?
I'd be more supportive of sending money to the countries in Europe that are willing go take these people in. It is a hell of a lot more convenient for the nearby countries to do this. It doesn't make sense to ship people 4,000 miles away when there are countries a lot closer that can.
Lot's of links in the article posted.
Godfather.
It's no surprise that you wouldn't believe a conclusion based in science. You know how ignorant that sounds right?
but on a serious note I really have a hard time believing that all those refugees will boost anybody's economy unless you consider crime an economy booster....and don't tell me they is no crime associated with these immigrant, don't make me copy and past FAXNEWS stories LOL !!!!.
Godfather.
Godfather.
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Odd, I haven't been really on in sometime. But I'm good thanks. How about you? You ok? You seem very confused for sometime now. May I suggest turning faux tv OFF. Maybe go outside in the real world. Meet a Muslim, shake his hand, share a drink or smoke (you do live in so cal). Might actually help you like yourself on the inside. Fear is no way to live. Just trying to help out.Godfather. said:
well, you said it not me......how's life treating you lately ? you seem so angry all the time, may I recommend vitamin B complex ? helps with stress related issues. hope all is well.badbrains said:
Ya because Muslims are the ONLY criminals in the world. Not your fucked up buddy GWB or his partner in crime tricky dicky who lied to the world and nearly bankrupted the entire country all while making their buddies super rich. Oh and let's not forget that these same refugees are running from a country that somehow has been torn apart by the same fucken people you admire. What a sick world we live in. One things for sure. Gf's prgramming is firing on all cylinders.Godfather. said:
hay now ! you know I read FAXNEWS ! and it's on the internet LOL !!!!!dignin said:
Haha, that's all you got? You know we are all on the internet right? That's some weak shit right there. Why even pretend you read anything that was posted?Godfather. said:
well it's on the internet it must be true.....I still call bullshit.dignin said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-portes/economic-europe-refugees_b_8128288.htmlLast-12-Exit said:
What evidence?dignin said:
You're right. You just implied that they would be welfare sucks. When all evidence proves otherwise.Last-12-Exit said:
I didn't claim they were threatening my way of life. I said I don't think it's cost effective to bring them here.dignin said:Last-12-Exit said:I understand the humanitarian aspect of this. I just don't think its a good idea to throw a lot of people into this country that don't know the langauge or the culture and expect there not to have major issues. What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?
I'd be more supportive of sending money to the countries in Europe that are willing go take these people in. It is a hell of a lot more convenient for the nearby countries to do this. It doesn't make sense to ship people 4,000 miles away when there are countries a lot closer that can.
Lot's of links in the article posted.
Godfather.
It's no surprise that you wouldn't believe a conclusion based in science. You know how ignorant that sounds right?
but on a serious note I really have a hard time believing that all those refugees will boost anybody's economy unless you consider crime an economy booster....and don't tell me they is no crime associated with these immigrant, don't make me copy and past FAXNEWS stories LOL !!!!.
Godfather.
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No shit (though we do have to remember that the Natives fought it to the death in some cases, and the ones who didn't got fucked.... that isn't meant as any kind of personal statement on my part... but it's something to keep in mind when using the Natives as a way to argue the point).dignin said:Last-12-Exit said:I understand the humanitarian aspect of this. I just don't think its a good idea to throw a lot of people into this country that don't know the langauge or the culture and expect there not to have major issues. What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?
I'd be more supportive of sending money to the countries in Europe that are willing go take these people in. It is a hell of a lot more convenient for the nearby countries to do this. It doesn't make sense to ship people 4,000 miles away when there are countries a lot closer that can.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I'm still trying to win the lottery and host you guys in my town for a Tool/Pearl Jam event.badbrains said:
Odd, I haven't been really on in sometime. But I'm good thanks. How about you? You ok? You seem very confused for sometime now. May I suggest turning faux tv OFF. Maybe go outside in the real world. Meet a Muslim, shake his hand, share a drink or smoke (you do live in so cal). Might actually help you like yourself on the inside. Fear is no way to live. Just trying to help out.Godfather. said:
well, you said it not me......how's life treating you lately ? you seem so angry all the time, may I recommend vitamin B complex ? helps with stress related issues. hope all is well.badbrains said:
Ya because Muslims are the ONLY criminals in the world. Not your fucked up buddy GWB or his partner in crime tricky dicky who lied to the world and nearly bankrupted the entire country all while making their buddies super rich. Oh and let's not forget that these same refugees are running from a country that somehow has been torn apart by the same fucken people you admire. What a sick world we live in. One things for sure. Gf's prgramming is firing on all cylinders.Godfather. said:
hay now ! you know I read FAXNEWS ! and it's on the internet LOL !!!!!dignin said:
Haha, that's all you got? You know we are all on the internet right? That's some weak shit right there. Why even pretend you read anything that was posted?Godfather. said:
well it's on the internet it must be true.....I still call bullshit.dignin said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-portes/economic-europe-refugees_b_8128288.htmlLast-12-Exit said:
What evidence?dignin said:
You're right. You just implied that they would be welfare sucks. When all evidence proves otherwise.Last-12-Exit said:
I didn't claim they were threatening my way of life. I said I don't think it's cost effective to bring them here.dignin said:Last-12-Exit said:I understand the humanitarian aspect of this. I just don't think its a good idea to throw a lot of people into this country that don't know the langauge or the culture and expect there not to have major issues. What happens if the majority don't feel the need to work? If they hear that the American government will pay their way through life with welfare?
I'd be more supportive of sending money to the countries in Europe that are willing go take these people in. It is a hell of a lot more convenient for the nearby countries to do this. It doesn't make sense to ship people 4,000 miles away when there are countries a lot closer that can.
Lot's of links in the article posted.
Godfather.
It's no surprise that you wouldn't believe a conclusion based in science. You know how ignorant that sounds right?
but on a serious note I really have a hard time believing that all those refugees will boost anybody's economy unless you consider crime an economy booster....and don't tell me they is no crime associated with these immigrant, don't make me copy and past FAXNEWS stories LOL !!!!.
Godfather.
Godfather.
Don't forget you two are sharing a hotel room on my tab once this happens.
Just remember... GF gets the bed by the nightstand that has the bible in it!"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
This is my first look into this discussion. I think everyone needs to imagine it is themselves who is one of these refugees. Would you still all feel like these posts suggest??
Forget about being a Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, or any other religion, we are all HUMAN I hope.
If we were invaded by an alien life form tomorrow would you all still feel this way? Man as a species needs to be as one, not fractured like we all are right now.
All this bad feeling makes you wish we all could be united as a planet against SOMETHING!late PJ bloomer- what was I doing in the 90's that I didn't know who Pearl Jam was???0 -
That's a very optimistic outlook. It's like President Obama asking Bashar al Assad to the white house for a sleep over.Jogill said:This is my first look into this discussion. I think everyone needs to imagine it is themselves who is one of these refugees. Would you still all feel like these posts suggest??
Forget about being a Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, or any other religion, we are all HUMAN I hope.
If we were invaded by an alien life form tomorrow would you all still feel this way? Man as a species needs to be as one, not fractured like we all are right now.
All this bad feeling makes you wish we all could be united as a planet against SOMETHING!0 -
Some of us just can't help being idealistsLast-12-Exit said:
That's a very optimistic outlook. It's like President Obama asking Bashar al Assad to the white house for a sleep over.Jogill said:This is my first look into this discussion. I think everyone needs to imagine it is themselves who is one of these refugees. Would you still all feel like these posts suggest??
Forget about being a Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, or any other religion, we are all HUMAN I hope.
If we were invaded by an alien life form tomorrow would you all still feel this way? Man as a species needs to be as one, not fractured like we all are right now.
All this bad feeling makes you wish we all could be united as a planet against SOMETHING!
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I would hope that one day if I was a refugee I would be treated humanely.Jogill said:I think everyone needs to imagine it is themselves who is one of these refugees. Would you still all feel like these posts suggest??
Forget about being a Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, or any other religion, we are all HUMAN I hope.
If we were invaded by an alien life form tomorrow would you all still feel this way? Man as a species needs to be as one, not fractured like we all are right now.
All this bad feeling makes you wish we all could be united as a planet against SOMETHING!
I would also hope that one day there is no religion then there would be no more refugees to worry about.0 -
I'm afraid the end of religion will not mean the end of war. Unfathomable as it is, man will continue to find reason to wage warPJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I would hope that one day if I was a refugee I would be treated humanely.Jogill said:I think everyone needs to imagine it is themselves who is one of these refugees. Would you still all feel like these posts suggest??
Forget about being a Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, or any other religion, we are all HUMAN I hope.
If we were invaded by an alien life form tomorrow would you all still feel this way? Man as a species needs to be as one, not fractured like we all are right now.
All this bad feeling makes you wish we all could be united as a planet against SOMETHING!
I would also hope that one day there is no religion then there would be no more refugees to worry about.0 -
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