Refugee crisis

JUST A GIRL

And no one has a thing to say about the guy trying to donate food yet is straight up robbed. Figures.

PJfanwillneverleave1

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rgambs

JUST A GIRL said:

And no one has a thing to say about the guy trying to donate food yet is straight up robbed. Figures.

What's the relevance? What is your conclusion?
I suppose you think the world should be good Christians like Kim Davis right?
Turn the other cheek and be charitable. WWKDD?

badbrains

JUST A GIRL said:

And no one has a thing to say about the guy trying to donate food yet is straight up robbed. Figures.

Don't know the story but if it happened, that sucks. Can't imagine how desperate one has to be to do that. I've never been in that position before. The thieves could've just been some regular everyday assholes. Whatever the reason, it sucks. But let me flip this to you since you believe in the secret hidden hand. Do you think it's possible that maybe someone did that on purpose to scare the people into NOT helping the refugees. Like maybe it's an "inside job"? Possibly?

PJ_Soul

rgambs said:

JUST A GIRL said:

And no one has a thing to say about the guy trying to donate food yet is straight up robbed. Figures.

What's the relevance? What is your conclusion?
I suppose you think the world should be good Christians like Kim Davis right?
Turn the other cheek and be charitable. WWKDD?

Here is the video: http://buzzmister.com/man-tries-to-give-to-refugees-and-gets-robbed/

Just a guess, but judging from the "figures" part, I feel like JAG is trying to demonstrate that our compassion is misguided??

JUST A GIRL

I made this post days ago. In reference to what I said about the lady with the banana basket. No one said anything because it made my last comment make sense.

"This just proves what I meant last time. Can't even donate before being robbed. That's what I said I hoped didn't happen to the other reporter but noooo, that would never happen, right?

https://m.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/3kbeht/man_tries_to_donate_food_but_bag_gets_stolen/. "

chime

Home, by Warsan Shire (Kenyan born Somali British poet)

no one leaves home unless
home is the mouth of a shark
you only run for the border
when you see the whole city running as well
your neighbors running faster than you
breath bloody in their throats
the boy you went to school with
who kissed you dizzy behind the old tin factory
is holding a gun bigger than his body
you only leave home
when home won’t let you stay.

no one leaves home unless home chases you
fire under feet
hot blood in your belly
it’s not something you ever thought of doing
until the blade burnt threats into
your neck
and even then you carried the anthem under
your breath
only tearing up your passport in an airport toilets
sobbing as each mouthful of paper
made it clear that you wouldn’t be going back.

you have to understand,
that no one puts their children in a boat
unless the water is safer than the land
no one burns their palms
under trains
beneath carriages
no one spends days and nights in the stomach of a truck
feeding on newspaper unless the miles travelled
means something more than journey.
no one crawls under fences
no one wants to be beaten
pitied

no one chooses refugee camps
or strip searches where your
body is left aching
or prison,
because prison is safer
than a city of fire
and one prison guard
in the night
is better than a truckload
of men who look like your father
no one could take it
no one could stomach it
no one skin would be tough enough

the
go home blacks
refugees
dirty immigrants
asylum seekers
sucking our country dry
niggers with their hands out
they smell strange
savage
messed up their country and now they want
to mess ours up
how do the words
the dirty looks
roll off your backs
maybe because the blow is softer
than a limb torn off

or the words are more tender
than fourteen men between
your legs
or the insults are easier
to swallow
than rubble
than bone
than your child body
in pieces.
i want to go home,
but home is the mouth of a shark
home is the barrel of the gun
and no one would leave home
unless home chased you to the shore
unless home told you
to quicken your legs
leave your clothes behind
crawl through the desert
wade through the oceans
drown
save
be hunger
beg
forget pride
your survival is more important

no one leaves home until home is a sweaty voice in your ear
saying-
leave,
run away from me now
i dont know what i’ve become
but i know that anywhere
is safer than here

http://www.commondreams.org/further/2015/09/04/no-one-leaves-home-unless-home-mouth-shark

rgambs

JUST A GIRL said:

I made this post days ago. In reference to what I said about the lady with the banana basket. No one said anything because it made my last comment make sense.

"This just proves what I meant last time. Can't even donate before being robbed. That's what I said I hoped didn't happen to the other reporter but noooo, that would never happen, right?

https://m.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/3kbeht/man_tries_to_donate_food_but_bag_gets_stolen/. "

So, as someone who claims to take their Christianity very seriously, What do you think should be done?
Help, because Jesus said so, or not help because they are evil Muslims who will rob you?

hedonist

chime - thank you for posting that. It affected me.

Drowned Out

benjs said:

Kyle, I assume your finger pointing comment is in regards to mine... Let me be clear: you've always been able to point a finger to explain a situation, AS WELL as how it pertains to how a people or government should or shouldn't behave. My issue is with people who leave this as a point of discussion, and don't actually relate it to what should be done. If recognizing fault is a premise to be used to justify an action or inaction, and that action or inaction is mentioned, then it's absolutely worth posting. It's America's fault is a poor statement without a "therefore" at the end.

Hey Ben, thanks for the clarification. I hadn't really talked about solutions when you posted that reply, so it applied to me as well...i didn't address my post to you because I agreed with you and didn't want it to appear I was challenging you - I was just looking to expand (and gawdamn did I! Haha) on my previous thoughts. I get tired of being accused of hating the U.S by small minded nationalists. I love a lot of people and places south of the border, and as much as some people may hate to admit it; culturally we are as similar as any two nations In the world. When I criticize the U.S., I am almost always criticizing Canada and our traditional allies as well. People need to keep that in mind.

ldent42

For every story of someone getting robbed by the refugees there is a story of someone helping grateful refugees. That's just humanity. There's terrible people everywhere and in every situation. Also there's bound to be some trust issues on the refugees side too.

gimmesometruth27

badbrains said:

JUST A GIRL said:

And no one has a thing to say about the guy trying to donate food yet is straight up robbed. Figures.

Don't know the story but if it happened, that sucks. Can't imagine how desperate one has to be to do that. I've never been in that position before. The thieves could've just been some regular everyday assholes. Whatever the reason, it sucks. But let me flip this to you since you believe in the secret hidden hand. Do you think it's possible that maybe someone did that on purpose to scare the people into NOT helping the refugees. Like maybe it's an "inside job"? Possibly?

probably a james o'keefe special.

gimmesometruth27

calls are being made in st louis to take in and re-settle 60,000 syrian refugees.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/14/st-louis-missouri-syrian-refugees

PJ_Soul

gimmesometruth27 said:

badbrains said:

JUST A GIRL said:

And no one has a thing to say about the guy trying to donate food yet is straight up robbed. Figures.

Don't know the story but if it happened, that sucks. Can't imagine how desperate one has to be to do that. I've never been in that position before. The thieves could've just been some regular everyday assholes. Whatever the reason, it sucks. But let me flip this to you since you believe in the secret hidden hand. Do you think it's possible that maybe someone did that on purpose to scare the people into NOT helping the refugees. Like maybe it's an "inside job"? Possibly?

probably a james o'keefe special.

They were children, btw, from what i saw in the video. The robbers were excited children in a fucked up situation.

dignin

Wow, way to go Google

They will match your donation until they reach 10 million

https://onetoday.google.com/page/refugeerelief?c=CA

JUST A GIRL

Hungary has the right idea. Beat them back until they leave.

Everyone will hate me for saying that, but when it's your town you just may agree.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/17/hungary-refugees-ban-ki-moon-eu-serbia

http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=ab4_1442363414

badbrains

JUST A GIRL said:

Hungary has the right idea. Beat them back until they leave.

Everyone will hate me for saying that, but when it's your town you just may agree.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/17/hungary-refugees-ban-ki-moon-eu-serbia

You talk all this shit about the new world order and bohemian grove. Beat them back? That's real Christian of you. Jesus DIDNT die for your sins. He'd be embarrassed about how you feel about "beating them back until they leave."

ldent42

I don't know why I keep opening this thread. All it does is upset me. The US should be taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees. You know how big this country is? We got sooooooooooooooo much space. The only problem is we can't just dump them in a field in Kansas because they need support, education, etc. and putting them in a homogenous community isn't going to help anyone. Personally, I hope some of them come to Queens. I want to try Syrian food.

Last-12-Exit

ldent42 said:

I don't know why I keep opening this thread. All it does is upset me. The US should be taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees. You know how big this country is? We got sooooooooooooooo much space. The only problem is we can't just dump them in a field in Kansas because they need support, education, etc. and putting them in a homogenous community isn't going to help anyone. Personally, I hope some of them come to Queens. I want to try Syrian food.

I agree more with this train of thought. Even if we could get them here, where would you put them? Downtown Chicago? In Kansas? What about Detroit?

PJ_Soul

Last-12-Exit said:

ldent42 said:

I don't know why I keep opening this thread. All it does is upset me. The US should be taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees. You know how big this country is? We got sooooooooooooooo much space. The only problem is we can't just dump them in a field in Kansas because they need support, education, etc. and putting them in a homogenous community isn't going to help anyone. Personally, I hope some of them come to Queens. I want to try Syrian food.

I agree more with this train of thought. Even if we could get them here, where would you put them? Downtown Chicago? In Kansas? What about Detroit?

They could be located all over. All it would take is some administration and money on the part of the government, and they could locate them where they could find jobs (the government could even help with that - offer initiatives for companies to hire them perhaps), and cooperate with the local governments to locate affordable housing for them. It would take man power - an actual targeted effort - but it's entirely possible. There just needs to be the will to do it.