There is no god

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    chadwick said:

    naaa, the bible, christianity & other religions do not at all cut the mustard for me. to me these religious outfits do not at all represent god. i read your statement the other day & i knew

    i knew... that is all i will say about it

    We agree again Chadwick. Two days in a row. Nice response.

  • JWPearl said:

    Supposing there were such thing as aliens and they were to invade and destroy every living thing on earth, give me a reason why they should spare you if you did not even choose to follow there commands they left behind by their commander ? Well this is the way I view God and his choices accept the difference is, God does love and wants his people to serve him his way the way the good book was written with love only then do we have a standing before God really because who are we to question him when we are mere humans. But we have the freewill to choose.

    So he doesn't want 'love'... he wants service and to be worshipped?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    I never said that, quite the opposite God does want to be loved by your choosing to comply with appreciation for everything that he has given you
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    god wrote the bible? the bible is not god, i am sorry but man & the powers that be invented those pages out of thin air, alot of thought on controlling the masses & how to generate funds. these things are not about god.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    Not all faiths are about generating funds, theres always rotten trees about that make God look bad, and religion is one of them
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    dignin said:

    chadwick said:

    naaa, the bible, christianity & other religions do not at all cut the mustard for me. to me these religious outfits do not at all represent god. i read your statement the other day & i knew

    i knew... that is all i will say about it

    We agree again Chadwick. Two days in a row. Nice response.

    well, sir. miracles do happen i guess. ;)
    just kidding around
    mostly i am exhausted w/ all this thread
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    Im tired too I need some sleep, its been a nice debate :)
  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835
    edited August 2014
    One day hundreds of years from now the Catholics' will buy all the rights to Pearl Jam. They will destroy, distort and deceive people into believing...wait for it....that Eddie Vedder was the second coming. They will highjack his messages of forgiveness, love, and hate etc. and tell the world he was the Christ. When receiving the host a priest instead of saying "the body of Christ" will spew out "Cropduster"...Amen.
    [-O<
    >:) >:) >:) >:) >:)

    In joyous part, brothers and sisters of the faith

    Yeah I'll be hanging upside down and there I will swing for all eternity


    Post edited by TalonTedd on
    I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    TalonTedd said:

    One day hundreds of years from now the Catholics' will buy all the rights to Pearl Jam. They will destroy, distort and deceive people into believing...wait for it....that Eddie Vedder was the second coming. They will highjack his messages of forgiveness, love, and hate etc. and tell the world he was the Christ. When receiving the host a priest instead of saying "the body of Christ" will spew out "Cropduster"...Amen.
    [-O<
    >:) >:) >:) >:) >:)

    In joyous part, brothers and sisters of the faith




    No fucking messiah :D

    Yes, this thread's taken a turn for sure! And still fascinating...
  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835
    edited August 2014
    And Eddie said onto his disciples.
    Go forth and be fruitful
    And leave me in my vacuum
    for when the daughters of Better men show their rivals what they have in store
    reply unto them. Bring it on cause I'm no victim.

    the book of No Code
    Praise be to Stickman.
    and in the name of Eddie, Stone and Mat, Jeff and Mike
    Amen...

    Post edited by TalonTedd on
    I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    TalonTedd said:

    And Eddie said onto his disciples.
    Go forth and be fruitful
    And leave me in my vacuum
    for when the daughters of Better men show their rivals what they have in store
    reply unto them. Bring it on cause I'm no victim.

    the book of No Code
    Praise be to Stickman.
    and in the name of Eddie, Stone and Mat, Jeff and Mike
    Amen...

    Hmmm... now that you mention it, Eddie does look a little like Jesus. White. Beard. Nice smile. Good teeth. And didn't I hear somewhere they're thinking of changing the band name to Eddie and the Disciples?

    Hallefuckinlujah! Praise Eddie!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524

    I love my children unconditionally.

    Spoken like a good father. Children (people in general) need this, deserve this. Yours are lucky, as I have been with my parents.

    Thinking / typing out loud...but I wonder if lack of that unconditional love in life might propel some to seek it out in (their) god. Sometimes perception, belief, can make a difference...can satiate that need. Can be a positive.

    It's funny how as I get older, certain views become more cemented. Others, like this, make me realize I don't know shit.

    I'm open.

    Aside - funny too how when I started typing this, I was watching an episode of All in the Family.

    Gloria: Whatever daddy says goes, and you're just a dutiful little woman waiting to serve the master.
    Edith: Oh, well, that's what it looks like, I know. But how do you know that what you see is all there is?

    She was a wise dingbat :)
  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835


    Hmmm... now that you mention it, Eddie does look a little like Jesus. White. Beard. Nice smile. Good teeth. And didn't I hear somewhere they're thinking of changing the band name to Eddie and the Disciples?

    Hallefuckinlujah! Praise Eddie!


    you'll make a fine cardinal....You two will be given the power of whispering hands and part the hair of your alter boys.


    :-q Okay that's going too far
    I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835
    edited August 2014
    I'll never forget the closing scene of "Imagine in Cornice". Eddie sweeping and cleaning under the church bells. as if to say this place needs it, you have soiled my house. Was he making a joke or was he actually making a more serious statement.
    Post edited by TalonTedd on
    I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
  • hedonist said:

    I love my children unconditionally.

    Spoken like a good father. Children (people in general) need this, deserve this. Yours are lucky, as I have been with my parents.

    Thinking / typing out loud...but I wonder if lack of that unconditional love in life might propel some to seek it out in (their) god. Sometimes perception, belief, can make a difference...can satiate that need. Can be a positive.

    It's funny how as I get older, certain views become more cemented. Others, like this, make me realize I don't know shit.

    I'm open.

    Aside - funny too how when I started typing this, I was watching an episode of All in the Family.

    Gloria: Whatever daddy says goes, and you're just a dutiful little woman waiting to serve the master.
    Edith: Oh, well, that's what it looks like, I know. But how do you know that what you see is all there is?

    She was a wise dingbat :)
    One of the best sitcoms ever!

    Meathead. Archie. Edith. Gloria.

    * And trust me... I have my days when I don't feel so shit hot as a dad. But thanks for the kind words anyways!
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835
    Well whipty do!
    I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    God is Dog in the Southern Hemisphere, right?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,731
    edited August 2014


    PJ_Soul said:

    Literally? You really think that literally, God entertains all in Heaven and monitors all on earth? What's your answer?

    That's part of the message that's sold to young, influential minds.

    The message changes as people get wiser?
    No, since there are a whole heap of adults - otherwise intelligent ones - who sincerely believe such things until the day they die. And even believe that Bible is true, or that Jesus will come down and signal the apocalypse. It's fucking crazy. Never fails to amaze me, really.
    BTW, the most prayed for thing in America is supposedly that a favorite sports team wins. Lol.
    And those people have to right to believe whatever they want, as long is it comforts them, gives them hope, keeps them looking for a positive in their lives, whatever. It's not up to anyone else to say that their beliefs trump those of another. Because they don't.
    I never said people don't have a right to believe anything they want. They do, just as much as I have a right to talk about how crazy it is.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524

    hedonist said:

    I love my children unconditionally.

    Spoken like a good father. Children (people in general) need this, deserve this. Yours are lucky, as I have been with my parents.

    Thinking / typing out loud...but I wonder if lack of that unconditional love in life might propel some to seek it out in (their) god. Sometimes perception, belief, can make a difference...can satiate that need. Can be a positive.

    It's funny how as I get older, certain views become more cemented. Others, like this, make me realize I don't know shit.

    I'm open.

    Aside - funny too how when I started typing this, I was watching an episode of All in the Family.

    Gloria: Whatever daddy says goes, and you're just a dutiful little woman waiting to serve the master.
    Edith: Oh, well, that's what it looks like, I know. But how do you know that what you see is all there is?

    She was a wise dingbat :)
    One of the best sitcoms ever!

    Meathead. Archie. Edith. Gloria.

    * And trust me... I have my days when I don't feel so shit hot as a dad. But thanks for the kind words anyways!
    We all have those days, whether as a parent, spouse, person...and if those days are the exception vs the rule, I'd say we're doing alright.

    Yes, I LOVED that show. Adored, still adore Archie (did you know his character was created with the intent to offend, yet he endeared?).

    Last 15 minutes or so, we've had old live Queen going. This goddamned god thing has gotten into my the head the last couple days, but not in a bad way. In a make me think way.

    And Freddie, such a beautiful talented gentle man (search out Play the Game...just so sweet and pure). Some people's gods would damn him for being who he was, living as he did, loving who he did.

    This, I don't get and never will.

  • PJ_Soul said:


    PJ_Soul said:

    Literally? You really think that literally, God entertains all in Heaven and monitors all on earth? What's your answer?

    That's part of the message that's sold to young, influential minds.

    The message changes as people get wiser?
    No, since there are a whole heap of adults - otherwise intelligent ones - who sincerely believe such things until the day they die. And even believe that Bible is true, or that Jesus will come down and signal the apocalypse. It's fucking crazy. Never fails to amaze me, really.
    BTW, the most prayed for thing in America is supposedly that a favorite sports team wins. Lol.
    And those people have to right to believe whatever they want, as long is it comforts them, gives them hope, keeps them looking for a positive in their lives, whatever. It's not up to anyone else to say that their beliefs trump those of another. Because they don't.
    I never said people don't have a right to believe anything they want. They do, just as much as I have a right to talk about how crazy it is.
    But who are you to judge?