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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    badbrains said:

    rgambs said:

    My very much beloved dogs were lost in the woods for 10.5 hours today.
    Really makes me think about the way traumatic events shape belief. When you lose loved ones it is hard to believe, but when you come close to losing and get to keep, it makes it easy to believe.

    I'm assuming they're home and safe now bro? That must of been some panic mode to be in. Hope all is well.
    Yes they are home, they are warm, and they are tuckered out! I never understood the love people have for dogs till I got my own. The thought that we wouldn't see them again and that they would be suffering was enough to have us both sobbing uncontrollably, but all is well and we are very appreciative.
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    badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    rgambs said:

    badbrains said:

    rgambs said:

    My very much beloved dogs were lost in the woods for 10.5 hours today.
    Really makes me think about the way traumatic events shape belief. When you lose loved ones it is hard to believe, but when you come close to losing and get to keep, it makes it easy to believe.

    I'm assuming they're home and safe now bro? That must of been some panic mode to be in. Hope all is well.
    Yes they are home, they are warm, and they are tuckered out! I never understood the love people have for dogs till I got my own. The thought that we wouldn't see them again and that they would be suffering was enough to have us both sobbing uncontrollably, but all is well and we are very appreciative.
    Awesome!
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    I think people use religion and faith to excuse their bigotry, racism, and hatred.

    Absolutely in many cases, but there are a ton of folks who are just good-natured fools lol. And then there are the smart folks who buy into it fully, and those are the ones who really leave you scratching your head. I think people who are naturally nasty in those ways are able to find a niche within religion from which they are difficult to eliminate.
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    rgambs said:



    Absolutely in many cases, but there are a ton of folks who are just good-natured fools lol. And then there are the smart folks who buy into it fully, and those are the ones who really leave you scratching your head. I think people who are naturally nasty in those ways are able to find a niche within religion from which they are difficult to eliminate.

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    badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255

    rgambs said:



    Absolutely in many cases, but there are a ton of folks who are just good-natured fools lol. And then there are the smart folks who buy into it fully, and those are the ones who really leave you scratching your head. I think people who are naturally nasty in those ways are able to find a niche within religion from which they are difficult to eliminate.

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    badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255

    rgambs said:



    Absolutely in many cases, but there are a ton of folks who are just good-natured fools lol. And then there are the smart folks who buy into it fully, and those are the ones who really leave you scratching your head. I think people who are naturally nasty in those ways are able to find a niche within religion from which they are difficult to eliminate.

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,835
    I had a conversation with my brother a while back, and get this, he gets offended when people call him a bigot for his beliefs that gay people are unnatural and going against god's will, that gay people should not marry, etc. HE gets offended.
    So if a guy calls a black dude the N word, someone yells "racist!" at him, and THE FIRST GUY gets offended?? what the serious fucking fuck?
    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

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    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
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    dignin said:

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    That is awesome. I googled where to find one and came across this for light reading.
    The last sentence though.... shakes head and walks away.

    http://www.holyobserver.com/darwinists-strike-again-in-ichthus-fish-emblem-battle/
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    dignin said:

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    That is awesome. I googled where to find one and came across this for light reading.
    The last sentence though.... shakes head and walks away.

    http://www.holyobserver.com/darwinists-strike-again-in-ichthus-fish-emblem-battle/
    I'm confused.

    “The last Tyrannosaurus Rex fell down dead over 60 million years ago. The Truth of literal biblical creationism, on the other hand, is the same yesterday, today, and forever.”


    I thought the world was only 6000 years old?
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2014
    dignin said:

    dignin said:

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    That is awesome. I googled where to find one and came across this for light reading.
    The last sentence though.... shakes head and walks away.

    http://www.holyobserver.com/darwinists-strike-again-in-ichthus-fish-emblem-battle/
    I'm confused.

    “The last Tyrannosaurus Rex fell down dead over 60 million years ago. The Truth of literal biblical creationism, on the other hand, is the same yesterday, today, and forever.”


    I thought the world was only 6000 years old?
    Now I'm really messed up. Thought it was only 2014 years old?
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    image

    That is awesome. I googled where to find one and came across this for light reading.
    The last sentence though.... shakes head and walks away.

    http://www.holyobserver.com/darwinists-strike-again-in-ichthus-fish-emblem-battle/
    I'm confused.

    “The last Tyrannosaurus Rex fell down dead over 60 million years ago. The Truth of literal biblical creationism, on the other hand, is the same yesterday, today, and forever.”


    I thought the world was only 6000 years old?
    Now I'm really messed up. Though it was only 2014 years old?
    I'm going to need some time to digest this......walks away, scratching head

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    callencallen Posts: 6,388

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    You ask them when it was in their life they made the choice to be attracted to girls. How old and at what time? They will either admit they didn't choose or if they say they did choose let them know that means they are indeed gay as they shouldn't have needed to choose. If they agree and say gays didn't choose but shouldn't act on these immoral urges tell them god must be a bastard for creating people like this.
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    callen said:

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    You ask them when it was in their life they made the choice to be attracted to girls. How old and at what time? They will either admit they didn't choose or if they say they did choose let them know that means they are indeed gay as they shouldn't have needed to choose. If they agree and say gays didn't choose but shouldn't act on these immoral urges tell them god must be a bastard for creating people like this.
    Answer^^^^^ =D>

    With your permission I would like to start using this.

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    Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    I have that argument every time my father in laws visits. My answer is still "why do you fucking care?"
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    badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    I have that argument every time my father in laws visits. My answer is still "why do you fucking care?"
    Tell him nobody cares!
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,570
    edited December 2014

    I had a conversation with my brother a while back, and get this, he gets offended when people call him a bigot for his beliefs that gay people are unnatural and going against god's will, that gay people should not marry, etc. HE gets offended.
    So if a guy calls a black dude the N word, someone yells "racist!" at him, and THE FIRST GUY gets offended?? what the serious fucking fuck?
    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Charles R Darwin!

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    To my great whock and disdain, my own mother is strongly against interracial marriage (i.e. would be upset if I fell in love with and married a non-white person and had children with him), yet she doesn't think she's racist and gets defensive when I tell her she is. She truly seems to think that she's not. The thing is, she's totally not an idiot. She's not simple. She's complicated. She's an intelligent, intellectual, and very thoughtful person.... and racist. :-< People's minds work in mysterious ways.
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    callencallen Posts: 6,388

    callen said:

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    You ask them when it was in their life they made the choice to be attracted to girls. How old and at what time? They will either admit they didn't choose or if they say they did choose let them know that means they are indeed gay as they shouldn't have needed to choose. If they agree and say gays didn't choose but shouldn't act on these immoral urges tell them god must be a bastard for creating people like this.
    Answer^^^^^ =D>

    With your permission I would like to start using this.

    Please do.
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,520
    this is very close to my beliefs about reality..

    http://youtu.be/IQtfMR-UKd0
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,835

    callen said:

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    You ask them when it was in their life they made the choice to be attracted to girls. How old and at what time? They will either admit they didn't choose or if they say they did choose let them know that means they are indeed gay as they shouldn't have needed to choose. If they agree and say gays didn't choose but shouldn't act on these immoral urges tell them god must be a bastard for creating people like this.
    Answer^^^^^ =D>

    With your permission I would like to start using this.

    actually, that is very close to what I actually replied to him with. he likened them to people who also didn't choose to become murderers, etc.

    Flight Risk out NOW!

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,570

    callen said:

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    You ask them when it was in their life they made the choice to be attracted to girls. How old and at what time? They will either admit they didn't choose or if they say they did choose let them know that means they are indeed gay as they shouldn't have needed to choose. If they agree and say gays didn't choose but shouldn't act on these immoral urges tell them god must be a bastard for creating people like this.
    Answer^^^^^ =D>

    With your permission I would like to start using this.

    actually, that is very close to what I actually replied to him with. he likened them to people who also didn't choose to become murderers, etc.

    Jesus.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    PJ_Soul said:

    callen said:

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    You ask them when it was in their life they made the choice to be attracted to girls. How old and at what time? They will either admit they didn't choose or if they say they did choose let them know that means they are indeed gay as they shouldn't have needed to choose. If they agree and say gays didn't choose but shouldn't act on these immoral urges tell them god must be a bastard for creating people like this.
    Answer^^^^^ =D>

    With your permission I would like to start using this.

    actually, that is very close to what I actually replied to him with. he likened them to people who also didn't choose to become murderers, etc.

    Jesus.
    Yes?
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,570

    PJ_Soul said:

    callen said:

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    You ask them when it was in their life they made the choice to be attracted to girls. How old and at what time? They will either admit they didn't choose or if they say they did choose let them know that means they are indeed gay as they shouldn't have needed to choose. If they agree and say gays didn't choose but shouldn't act on these immoral urges tell them god must be a bastard for creating people like this.
    Answer^^^^^ =D>

    With your permission I would like to start using this.

    actually, that is very close to what I actually replied to him with. he likened them to people who also didn't choose to become murderers, etc.

    Jesus.
    Yes?
    Where is that old head smacking smiley when I need it? :D
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    callen said:

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    You ask them when it was in their life they made the choice to be attracted to girls. How old and at what time? They will either admit they didn't choose or if they say they did choose let them know that means they are indeed gay as they shouldn't have needed to choose. If they agree and say gays didn't choose but shouldn't act on these immoral urges tell them god must be a bastard for creating people like this.
    Answer^^^^^ =D>

    With your permission I would like to start using this.

    actually, that is very close to what I actually replied to him with. he likened them to people who also didn't choose to become murderers, etc.

    Jesus.
    Yes?
    Where is that old head smacking smiley when I need it? :D
    Why what`s up
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    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    callen said:

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    You ask them when it was in their life they made the choice to be attracted to girls. How old and at what time? They will either admit they didn't choose or if they say they did choose let them know that means they are indeed gay as they shouldn't have needed to choose. If they agree and say gays didn't choose but shouldn't act on these immoral urges tell them god must be a bastard for creating people like this.
    Answer^^^^^ =D>

    With your permission I would like to start using this.

    actually, that is very close to what I actually replied to him with. he likened them to people who also didn't choose to become murderers, etc.

    Jesus.
    Yes?
    Where is that old head smacking smiley when I need it? :D
    Why what`s up
    my edit is this
    http://www.victoriawebsolutions.com/rid-e-question-mark/

    that`s why there is no question mark on my reply
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,570

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    callen said:

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    You ask them when it was in their life they made the choice to be attracted to girls. How old and at what time? They will either admit they didn't choose or if they say they did choose let them know that means they are indeed gay as they shouldn't have needed to choose. If they agree and say gays didn't choose but shouldn't act on these immoral urges tell them god must be a bastard for creating people like this.
    Answer^^^^^ =D>

    With your permission I would like to start using this.

    actually, that is very close to what I actually replied to him with. he likened them to people who also didn't choose to become murderers, etc.

    Jesus.
    Yes?
    Where is that old head smacking smiley when I need it? :D
    Why what`s up
    my edit is this
    http://www.victoriawebsolutions.com/rid-e-question-mark/

    that`s why there is no question mark on my reply
    Little keyboard icon in the bottom right hand corner of desktop. Change back to English and fixed. :) Happens to me all the time!
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    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    callen said:

    and he actually brought up the "should we let people marry animals too?" debate.

    Family or not, I would never in a million years know how to answer back to anyone that would say that to me. I honestly am trying to think of something right now and can't do it.
    You ask them when it was in their life they made the choice to be attracted to girls. How old and at what time? They will either admit they didn't choose or if they say they did choose let them know that means they are indeed gay as they shouldn't have needed to choose. If they agree and say gays didn't choose but shouldn't act on these immoral urges tell them god must be a bastard for creating people like this.
    Answer^^^^^ =D>

    With your permission I would like to start using this.

    actually, that is very close to what I actually replied to him with. he likened them to people who also didn't choose to become murderers, etc.

    Jesus.
    Yes?
    Where is that old head smacking smiley when I need it? :D
    Why what`s up
    my edit is this
    http://www.victoriawebsolutions.com/rid-e-question-mark/

    that`s why there is no question mark on my reply
    Little keyboard icon in the bottom right hand corner of desktop. Change back to English and fixed. :) Happens to me all the time!
    Thanks

    I was just having a little fun. The explanation given earlier about if someone said to me about people marrying animals and whatnot seemed to be better that what I could ever come up with.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,828
    And now, in breaking news, the Pope declares that dogs can go to heaven. And other animals too, it seems. This really puts the cat among the pigeons and the fox in the hen house. Think of the implications - for one, it's going to get really crowded now.

    http://www.salon.com/2014/12/12/pope_francis_yes_dogs_can_go_to_heaven/
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524

    And now, in breaking news, the Pope declares that dogs can go to heaven. And other animals too, it seems. This really puts the cat among the pigeons and the fox in the hen house. Think of the implications - for one, it's going to get really crowded now.

    http://www.salon.com/2014/12/12/pope_francis_yes_dogs_can_go_to_heaven/

    Do animals who've died prior to this get a free ride (lift)? Are reptiles included?

    This Pope seems alright overall, but still...

    *shakes fist at the Pope*
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