PHILLY (Loosely Related to The Philadelphia Phillies)

The Fixer said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Oh yeah.

And this article is awesome - http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/ryan-howard-philadelphia-phillies-contract-regress-struggle-trade-rumors-release-072514

"History won't show Ryan Howard as having had the worst contract in the history of baseball, that's only because Ruben Amaro had the good sense to stop it at five years. Although there is a sixth-year, $23-million club option. So, you know, maybe."

Now that's funny.

It's the worst contract in the history of sports

Howard's backers cite his RBI total, that he's driven in 60 runs. Well, so have 17 other major-leaguers. And Howard has had more plate appearances this season with men on base than any player in baseball.

In 224 of Howard's plate appearances, one or more runners have been on base. He's driven in just 14.8 percent of them. More than 175 players have a better rate of plating their baserunners.

The reason the author of that article says it's not the worst contract ever is because earlier in the article he notes that at least it's almost over. It's not a Pujols-type of contract that still has so many years to go.

As for Ruben, not trading anyone by the deadline is outrageous. This was basically elementary-level Baseball general managing. Your team blows. There's no end in sight. You have a couple of guys that could be of value to a contender. You make a trade. If you can't pull off a deal for either Byrd or Papelbon, what the fuck can you do? But ya know what? We all hate on Amaro, but he's not even to blame anymore. If a someone sucks at his job, it's up to his bosses to fire him. That's How To Run A Business 101.

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Fixer said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Oh yeah.

And this article is awesome - http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/ryan-howard-philadelphia-phillies-contract-regress-struggle-trade-rumors-release-072514

"History won't show Ryan Howard as having had the worst contract in the history of baseball, that's only because Ruben Amaro had the good sense to stop it at five years. Although there is a sixth-year, $23-million club option. So, you know, maybe."

Now that's funny.

It's the worst contract in the history of sports

Howard's backers cite his RBI total, that he's driven in 60 runs. Well, so have 17 other major-leaguers. And Howard has had more plate appearances this season with men on base than any player in baseball.

In 224 of Howard's plate appearances, one or more runners have been on base. He's driven in just 14.8 percent of them. More than 175 players have a better rate of plating their baserunners.

The reason the author of that article says it's not the worst contract ever is because earlier in the article he notes that at least it's almost over. It's not a Pujols-type of contract that still has so many years to go.

As for Ruben, not trading anyone by the deadline is outrageous. This was basically elementary-level Baseball general managing. Your team blows. There's no end in sight. You have a couple of guys that could be of value to a contender. You make a trade. If you can't pull off a deal for either Byrd or Papelbon, what the fuck can you do? But ya know what? We all hate on Amaro, but he's not even to blame anymore. If a someone sucks at his job, it's up to his bosses to fire him. That's How To Run A Business 101.

agreed. hopefully ownership told amaro not to make any trades unless he was blown away by the offer because they plan on canning him after the season and letting the new gm rebuild.

Cliffy6745 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Fixer said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Oh yeah.

And this article is awesome - http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/ryan-howard-philadelphia-phillies-contract-regress-struggle-trade-rumors-release-072514

"History won't show Ryan Howard as having had the worst contract in the history of baseball, that's only because Ruben Amaro had the good sense to stop it at five years. Although there is a sixth-year, $23-million club option. So, you know, maybe."

Now that's funny.

It's the worst contract in the history of sports

Howard's backers cite his RBI total, that he's driven in 60 runs. Well, so have 17 other major-leaguers. And Howard has had more plate appearances this season with men on base than any player in baseball.

In 224 of Howard's plate appearances, one or more runners have been on base. He's driven in just 14.8 percent of them. More than 175 players have a better rate of plating their baserunners.

The reason the author of that article says it's not the worst contract ever is because earlier in the article he notes that at least it's almost over. It's not a Pujols-type of contract that still has so many years to go.

As for Ruben, not trading anyone by the deadline is outrageous. This was basically elementary-level Baseball general managing. Your team blows. There's no end in sight. You have a couple of guys that could be of value to a contender. You make a trade. If you can't pull off a deal for either Byrd or Papelbon, what the fuck can you do? But ya know what? We all hate on Amaro, but he's not even to blame anymore. If a someone sucks at his job, it's up to his bosses to fire him. That's How To Run A Business 101.

Pujols is going to have more bad years over the course of the contract than Howard because of the length, so it will technically end up worse but I bet they get more out of him than the phillies got out of Howard, which was zero. I don't know how that will break down in WAR/Salary but Howard is going to be worse than replacement level over the 5 year contract.

Howard is already worse than replacement. Has been for a while now.

This franchise is a complete joke. They're like the pre-Hinkie sixers

i didn't realize they were making a movie of this but it looks pretty intense and i think it won something at cannes. definitely one of the weirder things to happen around these parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE3O6jT78-Q

The Phillies asked for Aaron Judge for Marlon Byrd. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=judge-001aar

The Juggler said:

Cliffy6745 said:

The Phillies asked for Aaron Judge for Marlon Byrd. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=judge-001aar

jesus.....do you think my theory could be true? that ownership kind of told him not to make moves unless he was blown away because they are planning on getting rid of him in a couple months and want the new guy making those decisions?

please god let that be true....

One would hope, right? I mean it does make some sense given that you can't really replace a GM at that point and you would want a new guy to be able to make all his own moves, but I don't know if I have that much faith in them.

Jearlpam0925 said:

Jeags -

I think that is hope running through your brain. I cannot give this club that kind of credit.

I can't think anything else but they're fucking idiots.

you are probably right....but they could be doing it and doing it for the wrong reasons. we know they are loyal to a fault. maybe the feel like they don't want to embarrass a guy who has been in their organization for 20+ years (not to mention his dad played for them too).

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Jeags -

I think that is hope running through your brain. I cannot give this club that kind of credit.

I can't think anything else but they're fucking idiots.

you are probably right....but they could be doing it and doing it for the wrong reasons. we know they are loyal to a fault. maybe the feel like they don't want to embarrass a guy who has been in their organization for 20+ years (not to mention his dad played for them too).

Yeah, I just don't see it. If they're able to let go of their world series winning manager with the logic of, "why wait?", then the same should be applied to the GM.

But who knows - maybe the candidates they want to fill the spot aren't available yet. Sure, what the hell, I'll hope with you.

....go birds

Roberto Hernandez to the Dodgers for 2 minor leaguers.