PHILLY (Loosely Related to The Philadelphia Phillies)

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

salisbury says phils willing to eat most of howard's contract in trade...may actually release him

I saw that too. Hey, it'd take a lot of guts to admit the mistake and drop him. But really, the team can't go on with him for three more years. He didn't even play tonight cause he struggles so much against lefties. It's been one of the saddest declines I've ever seen in baseball. And it's not even about the contract at this point. Even if he played for free, he wouldn't be worth having on your team right now.

Wobbie

Immortality? you gotta be kidding.

he won some WS games against the TAMPA BAY DEVIL RAYS for chrissake.

pjhawks

even in an absolutely terrible season Ryan is still 6th in the league in RBIs. hard to believe Harry.

and I really don't get this fan base. was down there last night. cheer Hunter Pence and boo Jayson Werth. that's ass backwards to me.

Wobbie

pjhawks said:

even in an absolutely terrible season Ryan is still 6th in the league in RBIs. hard to believe Harry.

and I really don't get this fan base. was down there last night. cheer Hunter Pence and boo Jayson Werth. that's ass backwards to me.

is it because they dumped hunter and jayson left for a cash grab? whatever the case, thanks for hunter. his intensity is awesome.

eeriepadave

i wonder if Pappelon is sucking on purpose now so he can get traded?

Jearlpam0925

For curiosity's sake of looking for how much the Phils were willing to eat for Thome I found this article - http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051123&content_id=1271930&vkey=news_phi&fext=.jsp&c_id=phi

Funny just to read back on this now, and that Howard is near Thome's age, and that's not to say Howard is even close to the player Thome was at this point in his career.

Amaro would never be able to pull a trade like this off either, healthy or no healthy Howard.

Can't wait till they release him. Thanks for the service, Ryan, but it's time to beat it.

JK_Livin

If this is it then thanks Ryan. Will always be a World Fucking Champion! Damn, what a sad ending.

Jearlpam0925

JK_Livin said:

If this is it then thanks Ryan. Will always be a World Fucking Champion! Damn, what a sad ending.

Is it, though? How many guys actually go out on top, instead of fading into a whimper?

I'd say 10-ish-plus seasons in one uniform and putting together the amount of production he did early on his career - winning ROY, MVP and a World Series - I think he had a good run. And it's now (finally) time to move on.

JK_Livin

I can see that but he dropped off a cliff.

Jearlpam0925

JK_Livin said:

I can see that but he dropped off a cliff.

Dropped off a cliff, sure, but at the same time it wasn't surprising.

Hopefully this is the nail in the coffin for Amaro, though I'd bet dollars-to-donuts that he gets at least one more season. Because this front office justifies any kind of loyalty.

Wobbie

well, there's no shame in losing to an "immortal"

The Juggler

cole hamels. god bless him....he's the only reason to watch this team

Wobbie

The Juggler said:

cole hamels. god bless him....he's the only reason to watch this team

You and your man crush. First, Halladay then Lee now Cole. What a slut you are.

The Juggler

imalive said:

The Juggler said:

cole hamels. god bless him....he's the only reason to watch this team

You and your man crush. First, Halladay then Lee now Cole. What a slut you are.

Cliffy6745

This whole thing could get pretty ugly, huh?

Jearlpam0925

Oh yeah.

And this article is awesome - http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/ryan-howard-philadelphia-phillies-contract-regress-struggle-trade-rumors-release-072514

Also, Jeags - if it wasn't for 2008 to save Hamels' hide as a pitcher..... Cause, apparently, he is not that good.

Ledbetterman10

Jearlpam0925 said:

Oh yeah.

And this article is awesome - http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/ryan-howard-philadelphia-phillies-contract-regress-struggle-trade-rumors-release-072514

"History won't show Ryan Howard as having had the worst contract in the history of baseball, that's only because Ruben Amaro had the good sense to stop it at five years. Although there is a sixth-year, $23-million club option. So, you know, maybe."

Now that's funny.

pjhawks

Jearlpam0925 said:

Oh yeah.

And this article is awesome - http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/ryan-howard-philadelphia-phillies-contract-regress-struggle-trade-rumors-release-072514

Also, Jeags - if it wasn't for 2008 to save Hamels' hide as a pitcher..... Cause, apparently, he is not that good.

since i'm sure this is directed at me can i ask that you at least get my quote right? again didn't realize that saying someone was 'very good, not dominant' was a put down but i guess with this bunch...

Ledbetterman10

Some great satire here....

The Philadelphia Phillies honored their 2008 World Series team again last night by playing a lineup that featured Jimmy Rollins, Chase Utley and Carlos Ruiz in a loss to the Giants, while ’08 stars Ryan Howard and Cole Hamels watched from the dugout. It is the 263rd consecutive game, dating back to the start of the 2013 season, that the Phillies have honored their former champions by allowing them to remain on their roster.

“That 2008 team will be remembered forever,” said general manager Ruben Amaro, Jr. “It was the first champion this city had in decades. I thought it was important to honor these guys night after night long after they were ‘quote unquote’ capable of forming the core of a competitive baseball team anymore.”

A rival NL East general manager said he appreciates what the Phillies have done for their stars of long ago.

“You don’t see that with most franchises,” he said. “They’ll bring an old team back for one night and have them wave to fans before the game starts. But not the Phillies. They’re still trotting out much of the same team they had six years ago every night. That’s respect. I admire that. Most teams nowadays, especially teams with Philadelphia’s resources, are built to be competitive now, not in the past. And I’ll admit, they help us win some games.”

In addition to putting their old-timers on the field each game, the Phillies chose to honor all of them with massive, long-term contracts.

“I remember a few years ago one of our opponents had a ceremony for an old championship team before the game,” said first baseman Ryan Howard. “They gave all the guys a watch and free drinks during the game. That’s nice, but the Phillies gave me $125 million. That beats any watch.”

Amaro says he intends to keep on honoring the 2008 team far into the future.

“Just because attendance for these nightly throwback nights continues to decline doesn’t mean you stop doing the right thing,” he said. “Plus, even if we wanted to get rid of guys like Howard and Rollins, we couldn’t. I’ve made sure of that.”

http://www.sportspickle.com/2014/07/phillies-honor-2008-world-series-championship-team-263-consecutive-game

Cliffy6745

Big fight at msg tomorrow night for Philly. Bryant Jennings in a big heavyweight fight. Both undefeated. On hbo. Should be awesome