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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    How could you allow Amaro to trade away those players if he's not coming back next year? If he trades some of them he has to be coming back sadly.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    When was the last one fired in season? Minaya? I can't think of one...
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Then there's this...................http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/brandon-moss-deserves-to-be-all-star-oakland-as-slugger-longshot-who-came-in-060514
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    jamminpearls said:

    How could you allow Amaro to trade away those players if he's not coming back next year? If he trades some of them he has to be coming back sadly.

    I don't disagree at all with the fact that having Amaro trade them away and leave is a lose lose situation. I just dont think there is any possible way to change GMs mid season.

    What are the chances you guys think he comes back? I don't put it at any worse than 50-50.

  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Cliffy6745 said:

    The Juggler said:

    How old is Gillick now? I doubt he would want to do that.

    Baseball gm's rarely get fired. It looks like the last one to get canned was none other than Ed Wade 3 years ago. That's pretty strange.

    I don't think they fire him until after the season when they can take their time finding a replacement. Like Cliff said, there's too much stuff that needs to be done short term.

    And not to mention, what has Gillick been doing that you know he could step right in and sign a full draft's worth of amateur players that he had no real role in drafting? Along with trading players away for prospects that he likely hasn't scouted? And he would be doing this with Amaro's staff because you aren't replacing scouts midseason. So you would have the same people scouting the same players just with a different leader at the helm. Yeah, that's not happening.

    What does a Senior Advisor do? Don Zimmer was just a Senior Advisor.

    Replacing a GM is not something you do overnight. As evidenced by the Ed Wade stat, which is insane and I had no idea.

    You mention the signing of draft picks but apparently Amaro can't do that either because of that NCAA incident last year. He just keeps piling on the shit. get rid of now, before the draft takes place. Throw a fucking dart at the board and we'd be better off. Cliff, you just want us to keep suffering by not firing him.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Dude--the draft is literally today.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    The Juggler said:

    Dude--the draft is literally today.

    Do you really think we'd be that worse off? I don't know what it takes to hire or fire a GM but the more you let this guy do, the longer it will take to recover. Can't we poach someone from another team? Does that ever happen midseason?

    I do realize that you can't do this hours before a draft but it needs to be done and we shouldn't wait any longer.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Cliffy6745 said:

    jamminpearls said:

    How could you allow Amaro to trade away those players if he's not coming back next year? If he trades some of them he has to be coming back sadly.



    What are the chances you guys think he comes back? I don't put it at any worse than 50-50.

    No, I think as long as this season plays out the way it's looking now, it's gotta be less than 50-50. The Phils are loyal to a fault but the losing and empty seats are going to force their hand.

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    JK_Livin said:

    The Juggler said:

    Dude--the draft is literally today.

    Do you really think we'd be that worse off? I don't know what it takes to hire or fire a GM but the more you let this guy do, the longer it will take to recover. Can't we poach someone from another team? Does that ever happen midseason?

    I do realize that you can't do this hours before a draft but it needs to be done and we shouldn't wait any longer.
    The team would have to give approval to interview with said team, so probably not/ I can't see that happening midseason. Usually teams grant that request if it is a higher position but not for lateral positions.

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    JK_Livin said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    The Juggler said:

    How old is Gillick now? I doubt he would want to do that.

    Baseball gm's rarely get fired. It looks like the last one to get canned was none other than Ed Wade 3 years ago. That's pretty strange.

    I don't think they fire him until after the season when they can take their time finding a replacement. Like Cliff said, there's too much stuff that needs to be done short term.

    And not to mention, what has Gillick been doing that you know he could step right in and sign a full draft's worth of amateur players that he had no real role in drafting? Along with trading players away for prospects that he likely hasn't scouted? And he would be doing this with Amaro's staff because you aren't replacing scouts midseason. So you would have the same people scouting the same players just with a different leader at the helm. Yeah, that's not happening.

    What does a Senior Advisor do? Don Zimmer was just a Senior Advisor.

    Replacing a GM is not something you do overnight. As evidenced by the Ed Wade stat, which is insane and I had no idea.

    You mention the signing of draft picks but apparently Amaro can't do that either because of that NCAA incident last year. He just keeps piling on the shit. get rid of now, before the draft takes place. Throw a fucking dart at the board and we'd be better off. Cliff, you just want us to keep suffering by not firing him.
    :))
    HA, you got me. Seriously though, I am over bashing Amaro incessantly. Moot point at this point.

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    The Juggler said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    jamminpearls said:

    How could you allow Amaro to trade away those players if he's not coming back next year? If he trades some of them he has to be coming back sadly.



    What are the chances you guys think he comes back? I don't put it at any worse than 50-50.

    No, I think as long as this season plays out the way it's looking now, it's gotta be less than 50-50. The Phils are loyal to a fault but the losing and empty seats are going to force their hand.

    One would think/hope. He literally destroyed the best team in baseball.
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Cliffy6745 said:

    JK_Livin said:

    The Juggler said:

    Dude--the draft is literally today.

    Do you really think we'd be that worse off? I don't know what it takes to hire or fire a GM but the more you let this guy do, the longer it will take to recover. Can't we poach someone from another team? Does that ever happen midseason?

    I do realize that you can't do this hours before a draft but it needs to be done and we shouldn't wait any longer.
    The team would have to give approval to interview with said team, so probably not/ I can't see that happening midseason. Usually teams grant that request if it is a higher position but not for lateral positions.

    I meant someone under the GM from another team. So, I guess I have to wait is what you are saying?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    JK_Livin said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    JK_Livin said:

    The Juggler said:

    Dude--the draft is literally today.

    Do you really think we'd be that worse off? I don't know what it takes to hire or fire a GM but the more you let this guy do, the longer it will take to recover. Can't we poach someone from another team? Does that ever happen midseason?

    I do realize that you can't do this hours before a draft but it needs to be done and we shouldn't wait any longer.
    The team would have to give approval to interview with said team, so probably not/ I can't see that happening midseason. Usually teams grant that request if it is a higher position but not for lateral positions.

    I meant someone under the GM from another team. So, I guess I have to wait is what you are saying?
    Ha, yeah, basically.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    jp it's actually happening!

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/entertainment/movies/Blind-Side-director-signs-on-to-untitled-Lenny-Dykstra-biopic.html

    ‘Blind Side’ director signs on to untitled Lenny Dykstra biopic
    Now that director John Lee Hancock has honed his sports movie chops with The Rookie and The Blind Side, it looks like he’s ready to bring to life the story of baseball’s last troubadour: Lenny Dykstra.

    Hancock recently signed on to the as-yet-untitled project to direct alongside Blind Side producer Gill Netter to tell Dykstra’s story. As Philadelphia knows, that story is an interesting one—after all, from his legendary presence on the ’93 Phils to the bankruptcy follies of his post-retirement life, we collectively just can’t get enough of ‘ol nails. Unless it’s about his time with the Mets.

    Dykstra suggested when the project was announced last year that Mark Wahlberg or Matt Damon play him in the film, which is both hilarious and a spot-on, oddly self-aware choice for Dude. Especially, as Collider’s Dave Trumbore notes, because Nails' ’86 Mets beat the Boston Red Sox in the ’86 World Series. And, you know, Mark Wahlberg hasn’t been in town since The Lovely Bones.

    Whoever takes the role, it’s likely that a large portion of the film will focus on Dykstra’s bankruptcy fraud proceedings. Via Collider:


    Plot details remain under wraps, so it remains to be seen whether the film will focus on his glory days on the baseball field from college to the majors, or his more criminal activities off the field after he retired in 1996. Pleading guilty to bankruptcy fraud, concealment of assets and money laundering, Dykstra was sentenced to six months in prison, 500 hours of community service, and was ordered to pay $200,000 in restitution.

    No word yet on when this one’s set to start filming, but expect casting decisions to start rolling out soon. If you’re a betting man, Crossing Broad’s Kyle Scott has it at 2:5 on Wahlberg—I’d take it.

    Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/entertainment/movies/Blind-Side-director-signs-on-to-untitled-Lenny-Dykstra-biopic.html#PLXrWZ54MU2wxOgz.99
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    i think fixer's boy keith law had this guy going 3rd. phils got him at 7--

    7. Philadelphia Phillies: Aaron Nola | RHP, LSU



    Nola has been a dominant pitcher over his last two years at LSU, and while I do have some concerns about the arm slot and breaking-ball, this could very well be the very first starting pitcher we see pitch in the big leagues. He throws everything for strikes, and the deception in his change is outstanding. I don't think Philadelphia will -- or should -- rush him, but I would be borderline surprised if he's not pitching for the Phillies in the fall of 2015.
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  • The Juggler
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    with any luck our top 3 starters in '16 will be hamels, biddle, nola.....
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,179
    The Juggler said:

    with any luck our top 3 starters in '16 will be hamels, biddle, nola.....

    not sure how effective Hamels will be in 2 more years :-S

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  • pjhawks
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    eeriepadave said:

    The Juggler said:

    with any luck our top 3 starters in '16 will be hamels, biddle, nola.....

    not sure how effective Hamels will be in 2 more years :-S

    uh oh you spoke in a somewhat negative tone about cole. that doesn't fly in this thread. expect the wrath of some of these guys :)) i mean i called him 'very good' and that wasn't taken so well.

    if/when Amaro is fired at the end of the season who will be the candidates to replace him? i don't think the organization has anyone around although isn't Ed Wade back as a scout or something?
  • The Juggler
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    eeriepadave said:

    The Juggler said:

    with any luck our top 3 starters in '16 will be hamels, biddle, nola.....

    not sure how effective Hamels will be in 2 more years :-S

    he'll only be 32 at that point. right in his prime.

    if they replace amaro with someone in house, we're in trouble. need an out of the box hire like gillick again.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
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