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hedonist wrote:Damn, JP. Another horrific layer in this.
As to the Arabic-speaking folks on the plane, yeah. Must be tough. My mom's gotten "those looks" from those who see her dark features, hear her speaking Persian and draw ridiculous conclusions about her. Had I not inherited my father's German features, I'd likely get the same.
Then again, much of what I've been hearing in the news conferences are about people keeping their eyes and ears open. So, the usual PC-ness aside, what exactly is considered suspect? What's out of line?
At this stage of the investigation, any attempt to pin this on an Arabic speaking person is sheer racism. This is an ugliness we don't need right now.
I'm sorry to hear your Mom gets suspicious looks. That's totally unfair."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
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Also, Why is it news worthy to have a headline, "Obama calls Boston Marathon and act of terror". What else is he supposed to call it, an "Act of Kindness?" - sarcasm obviously but should make sure everyone knows itPittsburgh 2003/Pittsburgh 2006/Outside Lands 2009/Bridge School 2010/Pittsburgh 20130
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JimmyV wrote:Thankful there are people like this in this world. Click the link. It is not at all what you think.
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correct, that was not what I expectedI've met Rob
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one of the comments said it may not have been looters ... organizers may have just put it out there ...0 -
polaris_x wrote:Godfather. wrote:I think we all have an idea what group is responisable for this but in any case who ever did this it is an act of TERRORISM plain and simple and the death penalty is in order for ALL the persons involved in planting these bombs.
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what group might that be!?
i honestly don't know ... from what i can gather - we still don't know ... i think it best still to wait until the facts come in ...
to be fair yes we should wait for the facts but this type of attack is or has been common for a certin group of people (taliban/muslims) and their wanna be followers.
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Godfather. wrote:polaris_x wrote:Godfather. wrote:I think we all have an idea what group is responisable for this but in any case who ever did this it is an act of TERRORISM plain and simple and the death penalty is in order for ALL the persons involved in planting these bombs.
Godfather.
what group might that be!?
i honestly don't know ... from what i can gather - we still don't know ... i think it best still to wait until the facts come in ...
to be fair yes we should wait for the facts but this type of attack is or has been common for a certin group of people (taliban/muslims) and their wanna be followers.
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So Godfather, why not be fair and wait until the facts come out? Why jump to conclusions that unnecessarily increase biases?"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
not to stirr up anything Brian but I'll bet the first thing people thought when this happened was the group
I mentioned had done it or at least they came to mind and with all the distruction this group has been causing around the world and here in in the US how can you blame them (me) for thinking that ? I just call it like I see it, it's not like it would be a big suprise if was the group I mentioned.
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Good stuff. A+ to u sir.JimmyV wrote:Thankful there are people like this in this world. Click the link. It is not at all what you think.
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brianlux wrote:why not be fair and wait until the facts come out? Why jump to conclusions that unnecessarily increase biases?
Why not? Cause that would be the smart thing to do, and since when do we do what the smart/right thing is?
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But what we do know is that innocent people were killed, and we can't trust the media or our government. I say that only basing it on history.0 -
Godfather. wrote:not to stirr up anything Brian but I'll bet the first thing people thought when this happened was the group
I mentioned had done it or at least they came to mind and with all the distruction this group has been causing around the world and here in in the US how can you blame them (me) for thinking that ? I just call it like I see it, it's not like it would be a big suprise if was the group I mentioned.
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I get it, Godfather. It's natural for any of us to jump to such a conclusion but I guess what I'm saying is that we should keep that thinking in check until we know the facts. Timothy McVeigh was not an Arabic or Muslim person. How do we know this wasn't some white guy or a Hispanic or what ever? I'm just suggesting we wait and see what the facts are before we jump to conclusions. And no, I don't believe you were trying to stir things up.
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I get it, Godfather. It's natural for any of us to jump to such a conclusion but I guess what I'm saying is that we should keep that thinking in check until we know the facts. Timothy McVeigh was not an Arabic or Muslim person. How do we know this wasn't some white guy or a Hispanic or what ever? I'm just suggesting we wait and see what the facts are before we jump to conclusions. And no, I don't believe you were trying to stir things up.[/quote]
So many folks hammering people for assuming that this was the work of fanatical Muslim terrorist. Given their track record I don't that assumption is out of line.
That said, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to hear that this was the work of a homegrown band of angry white guys.
How ironic would it be if it turned out to be angry white guys. The same angry white guys that were out beating on "brown" people post 9-11Sacramento 10-30-00, Bridge School 10-20 and 10-21-01, Bridge School 10-25 and 10-26-01, Irvine 06-02-03, Irvine 06-03-03, San Diego 06-05-03, San Diego 07-07-06, Los Angeles 07-09-06, Santa Barbara 07-13-06, London UK 06-18-07, San Diego 10-9-09, San Diego 2013, LA 1 20130 -
Godfather. wrote:not to stirr up anything Brian but I'll bet the first thing people thought when this happened was the group
I mentioned had done it or at least they came to mind and with all the distruction this group has been causing around the world and here in in the US how can you blame them (me) for thinking that ? I just call it like I see it, it's not like it would be a big suprise if was the group I mentioned.
Godfather.
You think like that cuz your brain has been brain washed to believe that. It's been conditioned to believe WHENEVER shit like this happens, it's GOT TO BE THOSE BROWN SKINNED ALLAH WORSHIPPING DEVILS.
Yesterday's shit was pure EVIL WHOEVER did it! If it comes out to be a Muslim, FUCK HIM, hang him by his balls. I'll pull the lever. But dnt sit here and start blaming people for something that we dnt know who did it. Seeing how you seem to get all your news from FAUX news, I'm not suprised at all that you feel this way.
The real heros of this massacre, the VICTIMS! They're the ones who are innocently pawned in this evil world. All Americans are Bostonians today, from Hawaii to Maine, all Bostonians... :(0 -
stickfig13 wrote:So many folks hammering people for assuming that this was the work of fanatical Muslim terrorist. Given their track record I don't that assumption is out of line.
That said, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to hear that this was the work of a homegrown band of angry white guys.
How ironic would it be if it turned out to be angry white guys. The same angry white guys that were out beating on "brown" people post 9-11
I'm guessing anyone (or anyones) who pulled this shit is/are "angry".
For all the calls to not speculate, there sure is a lot of that happening.0 -
stickfig13 wrote:So many folks hammering people for assuming that this was the work of fanatical Muslim terrorist. Given their track record I don't that assumption is out of line.
True, but the American soil track record of fanatical Muslim terrorists isn't - I'll say this delicately - one that typically occurs like this. In other words, if it was truly the product of a sophisticated foreign organization intent on committing terror attacks in America, wouldn't you expect it to be much larger in scale (I feel sick even saying that)?
I think many are worried at how easy people revert from legitimately questioning "who did this?" to "it must have been foreigners." It very well might turn out to be foreign-based, but it's concerning how quick people are jumping to that conclusion, given the lack of information anyone really has.
As you intuited in your post, given what we know (perhaps more importantly, what we don't know), this has just as many markings of a domestic terrorist act as it does a foreign-based terrorist act.stickfig13 wrote:How ironic would it be if it turned out to be angry white guys. The same angry white guys that were out beating on "brown" people post 9-11
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Godfather. wrote:not to stirr up anything Brian but I'll bet the first thing people thought when this happened was the group
I mentioned had done it or at least they came to mind and with all the distruction this group has been causing around the world and here in in the US how can you blame them (me) for thinking that ? I just call it like I see it, it's not like it would be a big suprise if was the group I mentioned.
Godfather.
probably the same for mid-easterners to assume that if a plane flies overhead and bombs them to assume it was an american plane.
and you aren't calling it how you see it. you are calling it how you assume it.Gimli 1993
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I'm guessing anyone (or anyones) who pulled this shit is/are "angry".
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I have absolutely no idea about what group is responsible for this....Godfather. wrote:http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/15/photo-obama-gets-updates-on-boston-bombings/?hpt=hp_t2
-Notably absent from his remarks was the word "terror," though federal investigators are classifying the bombings as a terror event. It is not clear if it's from a domestic or foreign source, a federal law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation said.-
I think we all have an idea what group is responisable for this but in any case who ever did this it is an act of TERRORISM plain and simple and the death penalty is in order for ALL the persons involved in planting these bombs.
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I think the only reason anyone is making such a conclusion is because of that irresponsible reporting about some Saudi national who was in the hospital and a person of interest (and many news outlet called him a suspect). For all we know, that guy was simply profiled because he's from the middle east. Or maybe he was involved. The point is, no one knows, but the focus on this guy (1 out of many who were persons of interest) has done its job if the job was to place unfounded early suspicions in the public's minds. Me, I am not even going to try to guess what the motive was or who did it. I'm just going to wait for the investigation to happen and for them to actually say who did it and why.brianlux wrote:Godfather. wrote:not to stirr up anything Brian but I'll bet the first thing people thought when this happened was the group
I mentioned had done it or at least they came to mind and with all the distruction this group has been causing around the world and here in in the US how can you blame them (me) for thinking that ? I just call it like I see it, it's not like it would be a big suprise if was the group I mentioned.
Godfather.
I get it, Godfather. It's natural for any of us to jump to such a conclusion but I guess what I'm saying is that we should keep that thinking in check until we know the facts. Timothy McVeigh was not an Arabic or Muslim person. How do we know this wasn't some white guy or a Hispanic or what ever? I'm just suggesting we wait and see what the facts are before we jump to conclusions. And no, I don't believe you were trying to stir things up.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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