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Thanks 10C, But I Don't Gamble.
First off, this isn't one of those threads where the OP threatens to not renew and everyone says "great, better seats for me!".
I'm simply saying that I don't appreciate or agree with 10C turning the ticketing system into a gambling system. There's a reason I don't play the real lottery and I don't gamble in casinos and that is because I don't like pissing away money. But that's just what this system encourages.
I, like many of you, am only in this fan club for tickets. Sure the other stuff is cute and all but honestly, it's for the tickets. I'm happy to say that I live in the north east and have never once been shut out of a show. Why? Is it luck? No. It's because I plan for this shit. I take off work and as nerdy as it sounds, I literally sit at the computer and practice for a few days before a sale. I map out where each button is just in case the page doesn't fully load. You see, I employ this secret ingredient called EFFORT. And guess what, it fucking works!
It's not much different than back in the day when I slept outside on a sidewalk for tickets to a high demand show. If you want something bad enough, you should have to be willing to go the extra mile. People who support the lottery system are probably the same people who want to ban tag on the playground and declare both teams winners in little league games.
But back to my original point. With the new system, the chances of scoring tix are taken completely out of my control and I'm giving 10C $20 to gamble with. I'm sorry but if you look at the numbers, it's a terrible bet.
I hope I'm not alone in this and if I'm not, is there any way we can stop this system now before they actually try it for a real tour?
I'm simply saying that I don't appreciate or agree with 10C turning the ticketing system into a gambling system. There's a reason I don't play the real lottery and I don't gamble in casinos and that is because I don't like pissing away money. But that's just what this system encourages.
I, like many of you, am only in this fan club for tickets. Sure the other stuff is cute and all but honestly, it's for the tickets. I'm happy to say that I live in the north east and have never once been shut out of a show. Why? Is it luck? No. It's because I plan for this shit. I take off work and as nerdy as it sounds, I literally sit at the computer and practice for a few days before a sale. I map out where each button is just in case the page doesn't fully load. You see, I employ this secret ingredient called EFFORT. And guess what, it fucking works!
It's not much different than back in the day when I slept outside on a sidewalk for tickets to a high demand show. If you want something bad enough, you should have to be willing to go the extra mile. People who support the lottery system are probably the same people who want to ban tag on the playground and declare both teams winners in little league games.
But back to my original point. With the new system, the chances of scoring tix are taken completely out of my control and I'm giving 10C $20 to gamble with. I'm sorry but if you look at the numbers, it's a terrible bet.
I hope I'm not alone in this and if I'm not, is there any way we can stop this system now before they actually try it for a real tour?
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Just thought I'd beat some smart ass to the punch. I know you guys too well
I don't like this new system. :oops:
*ducks for cover
Uh, no it wasnt. If it was, i woudlnt have went 30/33 scoring ticket. If I was that lucky, I would be living in Vegas.
Most of those 33 shows were for the northeast US. If the lottery was in place the entire time, there is no way I would have had that good of a success rate.
Eddie Vedder solo: 2008 - Boston night 1 & 2 || 2009 - Albany, NY night 1 & 2 || 2011 - Hartford, CT, Boston, MA
I agree on that and in a way it sucks to give up control.
Each ticket sale was turning into a bigger and bigger circus, culminating with the PJ20 and Canadian Tour. It really needed a change. They feel this is the best way, and I suspect the majority do too. Personally, whatever happens, happens.
Im close enough to the midwest where I can still get into some shows pretty easily.
it's risk free to enter the drawing here.
carry on.
Not trying to be a dick, but I don't think you read my post clearly.
I've been shut out a few times from getting 10C tickets. But I've NEVER been shut out of a show I really wanted to go to. That takes EFFORT. You have to scout Craigslist and the Forum, and be persistent until you find that extra pair or extra ticket. You have to cultivate relationships, so you are high on people's list of ticket buddies. It just moves the effort from getting Tix on PJ.com to getting Tix elsewhere. You can still use that Effort to get tickets, but you'll have to develop new skills.
You just got laid off of your highly skilled position of PJ.com Ticket grabber. Now you have to develop your effort and skills and get another job of just PJ ticket grabber. It's a whole new economy out there.....but effort will ALWAYS matter.
I was never shut out on the old method. I'll give it a shot, though.
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
I think the only "unfair" thing about the previous system was the amount of time it took to find out that tickets were sold out. I think the perfect system was the revamped 2011 10C sale when they used Ticketmaster for the Canadian shows. If it sells out right away, that's understandable. At least you didn't spend all day sitting there with no idea if tickets were still around or not.
The one thing I keep reminding myself is that, other than a handful of shows I've hardly used my 10C tickets. In Toronto 06 x2, St. Paul 06 x2, Washington 2008, Chicago x2/Seattle x2/Philly 2009 x4 and Toronto 2011 x2, I sold my 10C tickets in favour of tickets that had dropped on Ticketmaster right before the show. Therefore, if I am shut out from the 10C seats it's not the end of the world. And unless they play really small venues (Fonda, Vic Theatre, etc) you can usually find your way in if you are patient.
2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg
2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View
2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago
2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York
2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia
2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View
2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon
2012 - Sept 30 Missoula
2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle
2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee
2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York
2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
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This is the bit I don't understand. 'Being in control'. 'Effort'. etc. When I tried for 10c tickets for last years European tour I had tickets in my cart straightaway. Then for the next 30 minutes I'm stuck waiting for the page to refresh as it asks for my card details. This goes on for 2 hours before they shut the system down. Whenever was I in control? Any ticket sale, be it on 10c or Ticketmaster or Live Nation whoever, its down to luck that you get through and score tickets. Nothing else.
And folk shouldn't be so negative based on this ticket test. Only 9 people were ever going to get a 'WIN' status.
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
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I think you have a strange definition of effort or work. Hitting F5 without interruption or mapping out the location of buttons is not something I would define as actions that should give someone better ticket chances. It`s just dumb and irrational and wasting people`s time. I dont see a link between the hours you spend online and the degree you deserve a ticket. Seriously: What can be said against a system where everyone has the same ticket chances?
that was actually pretty funny
good luck with the lottery now..
i know all tickets from the draw will go to 10c memebrs ,so its more than ok to me..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
agreed.
when did tix never go to 10c members? dont see ur point tho i like how youre always positive/optimistic even if it is a front, not saying it is, i just happen to agree with OP and others since im in the NE bucket and MSG is closest venue to southern CT. oh well.
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
Please do away with the "lottery" it sucks big time!!!!
London, ON - Sep 12, 2005
Toronto, ON - Aug 21, 2009
Toronto, ON- Sep 11 2011
Hamilton, ON- Sep 15 2011
London, ON- Jul 16 2013
Buffalo, NY- Oct 12 2013
so this new is fair,easy,and more different members will score tix..
i like it away better
again,northeast is more hard to score,i get it..,but they trying to make a system for all the planet..not for 10 cities only..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I travel to the northeast for shows all the time, and I know how to pound the f5 key as hard as the rest of you, like i'm sure many other traveling fans around here do... why aren't we complaining to?
The 10C has obviously elected to go to the same lottery style as employed by several other major ticket drawing bands - DMB, Phish, etc... they are not going to back down on it now.
Suck it up.
Move on.
Ditch your membership if you want.
Either lottery or don't - I'm sick of hearing people bitch about it. There is always ticketmaster if you don't score your tickets. If you do the math and add up the day worth of lost work time f5'ing your way to victory, you can probably afford to buy your tickets from a scalper anyway.
It's hard (probably impossible) to make everyone happy, but at least this way everyone has a chance to get tickets for the show they really want to attend and can weight their choices.
I am going to miss the thrill, stress and emotional roller coaster of the F5 days as well. But let's be honest here, we can't honestly suggest a system where you need to practice days before to memorize where links are on a page and take time off work to account for crashing servers, is a better or more fair option than the system being tested.
May 10, 2006 - Toronto
Aug 21, 2009 - Toronto
Sept 11, 2011 - Toronto
Sept 14, 2011 - Ottawa
Oct 12, 2013 - Buffalo
Oct 16, 2014 - Detroit
May 8, 2016 - Ottawa
May 10, 2016 - Toronto
Eddie Vedder
Aug 9, 2008 Montreal
What's the point of buying a membership.
I liked it better when I could take my chances and buy my own tickets.
Lottery is Bullshit!
As a member I should get tickets not a chance to win tickets.
Waste of fucking money.If it wasnt for the singles and vinyl this club would be worthless.
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12 -Vancouver,BC-Rogers Arena-5/4/24
Hello Hard core Pearl jam fan, thanks for being a member for so long, but.......
Sorry, your name was not drawn for a pair of Ten Club tickets. The credit card authorization will now be canceled releasing the funds back to the card.
p.s
Its double L in cancelled.... just saying :roll:
edit - i forgot Americans spell things differently..
This.
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
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I'm ok with lottery, though I think there's a better way.
BUT - the reason is - you're traveling anyway. Those that live here wouldn't have to.
Not saying it's right. Just answering your question as to why folks that live here are voicing their concerns more than those overseas or in markets where tickets will be readily available.
Now, say boohoo - at least you get shows. That's fine. But, does it make sense for someone now to have to travel to get tickets when they have a show right down the street? Or, at least make sense why that might be a tad more frustrating?
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
He's saying his membership fee is being gambled. I don't agree, but it's pretty clear he's saying that's what he's "losing."
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011