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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    josevolution wrote:
    I don't think the arguing back & forth is productive at all specially when you consider who the person is ......

    Hi's the kind os person i have no respect for at all ..........

    Godfather you consider him to be a hero :?: really Bro :fp:

    yep ! a real stand up American, have you heard his views on crimes ?

    Godfather.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,520
    Godfather. wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    I don't think the arguing back & forth is productive at all specially when you consider who the person is ......

    Hi's the kind os person i have no respect for at all ..........

    Godfather you consider him to be a hero :?: really Bro :fp:

    yep ! a real stand up American, have you heard his views on crimes ?

    Godfather.
    yup. The rules dont apply to "Uncle Ted".
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,677
    Godfather. wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    I don't think the arguing back & forth is productive at all specially when you consider who the person is ......

    Hi's the kind os person i have no respect for at all ..........

    Godfather you consider him to be a hero :?: really Bro :fp:

    yep ! a real stand up American, have you heard his views on crimes ?

    Godfather.

    Ok ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,188
    "The soul is the same in all living creatures, although the body of each is different."

    -Hippocrates


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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    "The soul is the same in all living creatures, although the body of each is different."

    -Hippocrates


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    again...thank you

    i am surprised though at how many do not support this belief
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  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    Godfather. wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    I don't think the arguing back & forth is productive at all specially when you consider who the person is ......

    Hi's the kind os person i have no respect for at all ..........

    Godfather you consider him to be a hero :?: really Bro :fp:

    yep ! a real stand up American, have you heard his views on crimes ?

    Godfather.
    I assume your referring to spook the other crimes besides this one, right?
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    What size creature does the soul start to....lessen?

    a tarantula?

    a scorpion?

    a giant flying cockroach?

    the spider on catefrances' window?

    what about the rat in the drain ditch?

    the fly?

    the ant?

    the gnat?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    rollings wrote:
    What size creature does the soul start to....lessen?

    a tarantula?

    a scorpion?

    a giant flying cockroach?

    the spider on catefrances' window?

    what about the rat in the drain ditch?

    the fly?

    the ant?

    the gnat?

    Good question, Rollings! I'd say from my experiences with frog and spider digging PJ, it must be very small. Music is soul. Spider and Frogs love music. Spiders and frogs have soul. Good logic, huh? :)

    Oh, and when I get around it it I'll tell you about the centipede the other day that...
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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    brianlux wrote:
    rollings wrote:
    What size creature does the soul start to....lessen?

    a tarantula?

    a scorpion?

    a giant flying cockroach?

    the spider on catefrances' window?

    what about the rat in the drain ditch?

    the fly?

    the ant?

    the gnat?

    Good question, Rollings! I'd say from my experiences with frog and spider digging PJ, it must be very small. Music is soul. Spider and Frogs love music. Spiders and frogs have soul. Good logic, huh? :)

    Oh, and when I get around it it I'll tell you about the centipede the other day that...

    Well, I don't know. Describe how said frog & spider were digging it.
    Were their heads bobbing? Were they jumping straight up and down?....

    Or could it be that they were merely reacting to vibrations they were receiving?

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    I'll try to dig up those posts when it's not so late.

    How on earth did we get from Nugent to spiders to Debbie? :lol:

    It's looking like we're done with Ted here. How much more can be said anyway?
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    pandora wrote:
    I know he plead guilty but still that was not the normal sentence for a poacher.

    Perhaps he is not considered a poacher in the eyes of the law and our government
    or in many of the peoples eyes either.

    :lol::lol: Conspiracy theories coming up!

    "As part of the plea deal, Nugent has agreed to pay a $10,000 fine, not to hunt or fish within Alaska or on any other U.S. Forest Service lands for one year. The deal also includes two years probation." Seems a perfectly 'normal' sentence (looking at others). Eg. a man got fined $28,000 for killing 4 animals, another one £10,000 for 2 animals, another $6,000 for one animal... Yes, some others got fined more, but others less. See... though a plea bargain, nothing strange in his sentence. Nugent IS considered a poacher in the eyes of the law and government and most decent people.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    redrock wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I know he plead guilty but still that was not the normal sentence for a poacher.

    Perhaps he is not considered a poacher in the eyes of the law and our government
    or in many of the peoples eyes either.

    :lol::lol: Conspiracy theories coming up!

    "As part of the plea deal, Nugent has agreed to pay a $10,000 fine, not to hunt or fish within Alaska or on any other U.S. Forest Service lands for one year. The deal also includes two years probation." Seems a perfectly 'normal' sentence (looking at others). Eg. a man got fined $28,000 for killing 4 animals, another one £10,000 for 2 animals, another $6,000 for one animal... Yes, some others got fined more, but others less. See... though a plea bargain, nothing strange in his sentence. Nugent IS considered a poacher in the eyes of the law and government and most decent people.
    I guess I must not be decent folk, that must be something those against hunting do,
    decide who is decent or not :? I learned 15 years ago that is not up to me to decide.

    http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/galle ... fines-ever

    wow I had no idea the punishments and fines and what real poachers are doing...

    the government has it's hands full :shock:
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    pandora wrote:
    [I guess I must not be decent folk, that must be something those against hunting do,
    decide who is decent or not :? I learned 15 years ago that is not up to me to decide.

    http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/galle ... fines-ever

    wow I had no idea the punishments and fines and what real poachers are doing...

    the government has it's hands full :shock:
    are you suggesting that nugent is not a real poacher?
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    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    chadwick wrote:
    are you suggesting that nugent is not a real poacher?

    Chad... all this is a bit of trolling and baiting and you're the catch (so am I, actually :oops: )! We all know what a poacher is, we all know what poaching means (and those that claim they don't can look it up). Nugent has had several 'encounters' with the law ref illegal hunting (poaching) - we know - it's documented. Whether one illegally hunts one animal or 10, it's poaching; just as whether one steals a bottle of alcohol or a whole consignment, it's theft.

    If some people are OK with illegal hunts and trophy hunting with no regard to the wildlife and our mother earth, it's sad, but it's their prerogative, but they should come out clean about this and not try to excuse this kind of behaviour (which Nugent does - he's not ashamed of what he does and how he behaves, even if it is against the law and he has been caught and punished).
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    redrock wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    are you suggesting that nugent is not a real poacher?

    Chad... all this is a bit of trolling and baiting and you're the catch (so am I, actually :oops: )! We all know what a poacher is, we all know what poaching means (and those that claim they don't can look it up). Nugent has had several 'encounters' with the law ref illegal hunting (poaching) - we know - it's documented. Whether one illegally hunts one animal or 10, it's poaching; just as whether one steals a bottle of alcohol or a whole consignment, it's theft.

    If some people are OK with illegal hunts and trophy hunting with no regard to the wildlife and our mother earth, it's sad, but it's their prerogative, but they should come out clean about this and not try to excuse this kind of behaviour (which Nugent does - he's not ashamed of what he does and how he behaves, even if it is against the law and he has been caught and punished).

    If he's getting caught for a few of these incidents, imagine how many he might have gotten away with that nobody knows about.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    redrock wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    are you suggesting that nugent is not a real poacher?

    Chad... all this is a bit of trolling and baiting and you're the catch (so am I, actually :oops: )! We all know what a poacher is, we all know what poaching means (and those that claim they don't can look it up). Nugent has had several 'encounters' with the law ref illegal hunting (poaching) - we know - it's documented. Whether one illegally hunts one animal or 10, it's poaching; just as whether one steals a bottle of alcohol or a whole consignment, it's theft.

    If some people are OK with illegal hunts and trophy hunting with no regard to the wildlife and our mother earth, it's sad, but it's their prerogative, but they should come out clean about this and not try to excuse this kind of behaviour (which Nugent does - he's not ashamed of what he does and how he behaves, even if it is against the law and he has been caught and punished).
    i never understand the baiting and trolling bit. as in... what the hell is baiting/trolling?

    and you and i are the catch

    so someone spouts out stupid bullshit in hopes of someone else getting all fired up and upset in hopes that the person will react in a defensive manner and maybe using inappropriate language leading them to getting a ban?

    i guess i am actually understanding this whole baiting and trolling thing as i type this up.

    wow... i am not impressed with these fucking people
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    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    Chad... all this is a bit of trolling and baiting and you're the catch (so am I, actually :oops: )! We all know what a poacher is, we all know what poaching means (and those that claim they don't can look it up). Nugent has had several 'encounters' with the law ref illegal hunting (poaching) - we know - it's documented. Whether one illegally hunts one animal or 10, it's poaching; just as whether one steals a bottle of alcohol or a whole consignment, it's theft.

    If some people are OK with illegal hunts and trophy hunting with no regard to the wildlife and our mother earth, it's sad, but it's their prerogative, but they should come out clean about this and not try to excuse this kind of behaviour (which Nugent does - he's not ashamed of what he does and how he behaves, even if it is against the law and he has been caught and punished).

    If he's getting caught for a few of these incidents, imagine how many he might have gotten away with that nobody knows about.
    thank you jonny pistachio! that is exactly the facts. no one hardly ever gets busted the first go' round. no no and no. usually the person is a repeated offender before they are even busted once. this is a fact as i have been around long enough to understand how shit works.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,188
    chadwick wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    Chad... all this is a bit of trolling and baiting and you're the catch (so am I, actually :oops: )! We all know what a poacher is, we all know what poaching means (and those that claim they don't can look it up). Nugent has had several 'encounters' with the law ref illegal hunting (poaching) - we know - it's documented. Whether one illegally hunts one animal or 10, it's poaching; just as whether one steals a bottle of alcohol or a whole consignment, it's theft.

    If some people are OK with illegal hunts and trophy hunting with no regard to the wildlife and our mother earth, it's sad, but it's their prerogative, but they should come out clean about this and not try to excuse this kind of behaviour (which Nugent does - he's not ashamed of what he does and how he behaves, even if it is against the law and he has been caught and punished).

    If he's getting caught for a few of these incidents, imagine how many he might have gotten away with that nobody knows about.
    thank you jonny pistachio! that is exactly the facts. no one hardly ever gets busted the first go' round. no no and no. usually the person is a repeated offender before they are even busted once. this is a fact as i have been around long enough to understand how shit works.
    exactly. how many people have driven buzzed 100 times before they finally get busted for dui?

    the man is a repeat offender. he has most likely poached many times in the past.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:

    the man is a repeat offender.

    Well said, gimme. Both legally and illegally!

    And I don't say that to be baiting. The "legal offending" is his whole schtick. He's all about pissing people off, getting their goat, stirring the pot. The man is an embarrassment to the right which is why so many are distancing from him. I'm amazed when I see anyone sticking up up for him. That's their right of course, but why do it?
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited April 2012
    Well... there are people like Nugent who are quite happy to 'hunt' our 'everyday' wild animals (though already rounded up and baited for their pleasure) and also hunt species that are critically endangered, vulnerable or even extinct in the wild (again rounded up and baited) to have something to hang on their wall and there are people who are happy to support this kind of 'hunt'. Think what you want to think of them. There are some laws to protect the animals, though we see how easily their are broken.

    But I bet for every person like this, there are 10/20/lots more who do care about our wildlife and work hard to keep the different species alive and well in the wild for the balance of the species, the ecological balance and also work hard so our children's children and their children, etc. will be able to enjoy these animals 'for real' and not just in books. This is what one needs to focus energy on.
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