Nugent pleads guilty over illegal bear killing

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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    horrorific
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
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    no more forever."

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,215
    Brutal ...
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    Mmmmm... looks delicious!


    i'll take your word, i've never treid old man before
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    whygohome wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    whygohome wrote:
    Nugent is such a tough guy. Typical loudmouth pussy: all bark and no bite. It's good to see what a patriot he is, like his boys Bush and Cheney. Draft dodgers and cowards, like the tough guy warmongerers on this board.

    "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." ~Jean-Paul Sartre


    http://blog.reidreport.com/2012/04/ted- ... ft-dodger/
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/101722838

    :lol::lol: great post ! if I thought you knew what you were talking about I might be offended.....NAHH. :lol:

    Godfather.

    A dude whose spelling is worse than my 3 year old nephew's telling me I don't know what I am talking about?
    That's rich.

    A draft dodger who supports war is a coward. A citizen who supports war and doesn't enlist is a coward. Quite simple.

    all the sudden if a person is in college and does not make the draft he's a koward (spelling just for you buddy)
    now coming from a group that want's to down size our military and blames every famin or conflict on the US ?
    now that's rich my friend :lol: ...maybe not you I'm not sure but it seems that just about 80% of the train whines and crys about wars but now that we are talking about Ted...only a koward avoids war ?..bro we gotta work on spicific defenations of kowardness and what wars are bad or gud :mrgreen:

    and my spelling....whata ya nu here ? :lol: but if you have a problem reading my posts ask your nephew to help you desipher my code. :lol: or if you can figure it out all on your own I am proud of you and offer a signed deploma by me for your crafty mind and ability to think outside the box. :thumbup:

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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    there is not much to dwell on. there is not much to study. there is not much to contemplate. there is not much to ponder. there is not much to understand.

    a small wikileaks cache worth of evidence has been presented and the conclusion is obvious.

    the man gets off on having sex with underage girls. this is illegal, yet somehow is kosher with some people on here.

    the man does not engage anything or anyone that might harm him while defending itself. he is pro war but refused to fight. this is cowardice. somehow it is ok with some people on here.

    he gets off on killing things.

    both legally and illegally.

    the posters who are defending nugent in this thread also tried to defend zimmerman in the trayvon martin thread by saying the same things. that they were trying to understand him.

    it is just a feeble attempt to try to justify and validate ted nugent's actions. to me there is no defending nugent. in my opinion if you are not against his actions, then by default you support them.

    This post should NOT go unnoticed. I can't understand those who may want understand a person such as Ted Nugent. It sort of like that kind of a person wants to justify walking on a fence making sure to NOT admit he's done many wrongs that many have strong opinions on that they MUST speak up on what he's done in his past. It appears he's continuing to still do some of them.

    I rather hear from those who say I straight up I love the guy no matter what his past crimes or indiscretions have been. Now I can understand that point of view rather those who want to play both sides in that they come off appearing to be defending them or him.

    Should we try to understand OJ, Charles Manson or the DC Sniper...yes we can study their cases but what really does it mean to understand these people and their actions?

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    I get it about the judging. I'm no saint and I'm sure others might determine some of my actions are/were unaccepatble, but that's not necessarily saying that "Markin Ball" is bad. I'm not asking you to judge anyone as a person. I'm asking how you about their behavior. You find that judging is wrong as a behavior? How can you find trophy hunting to be an acceptable behavior?
    I can not tell others what they themselves need to learn. I have learned what I have
    on my path. I have learned to accept the fact that there are people
    on this earth who hunt, for trophy and to eat.
    The time may come in their lives that they will find what they do to be wrong.
    I have also wrongly judged hunters hearts in the past. That is on me.
    I feel judging is wrong and it comes way to easy for others...
    in fact it seems a past time these days ;)

    look around :lol:
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,215
    Damn the other thread got locked , the more bashing of this creep the better .....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    g under p wrote:
    there is not much to dwell on. there is not much to study. there is not much to contemplate. there is not much to ponder. there is not much to understand.

    a small wikileaks cache worth of evidence has been presented and the conclusion is obvious.

    the man gets off on having sex with underage girls. this is illegal, yet somehow is kosher with some people on here.

    the man does not engage anything or anyone that might harm him while defending itself. he is pro war but refused to fight. this is cowardice. somehow it is ok with some people on here.

    he gets off on killing things.

    both legally and illegally.

    the posters who are defending nugent in this thread also tried to defend zimmerman in the trayvon martin thread by saying the same things. that they were trying to understand him.

    it is just a feeble attempt to try to justify and validate ted nugent's actions. to me there is no defending nugent. in my opinion if you are not against his actions, then by default you support them.

    This post should NOT go unnoticed. I can't understand those who may want understand a person such as Ted Nugent. It sort of like that kind of a person wants to justify walking on a fence making sure to NOT admit he's done many wrongs that many have strong opinions on that they MUST speak up on what he's done in his past. It appears he's continuing to still do some of them.

    I rather hear from those who say I straight up I love the guy no matter what his past crimes or indiscretions have been. Now I can understand that point of view rather those who want to play both sides in that they come off appearing to be defending them or him.

    Should we try to understand OJ, Charles Manson or the DC Sniper...yes we can study their cases but what really does it mean to understand these people and their actions?

    Peace

    duley noted my friend but said post is just more ramblings of the same argument with no real proof of some or most of the ...(this is a tuff one BEAR with me) acussations ?


    Godfather.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Godfather. wrote:
    all the sudden if a person is in college and does not make the draft he's a koward (spelling just for you buddy)
    now coming from a group that want's to down size our military and blames every famin or conflict on the US ?
    now that's rich my friend :lol: ...maybe not you I'm not sure but it seems that just about 80% of the train whines and crys about wars but now that we are talking about Ted...only a koward avoids war ?..bro we gotta work on spicific defenations of kowardness and what wars are bad or gud :mrgreen:

    and my spelling....whata ya nu here ? :lol: but if you have a problem reading my posts ask your nephew to help you desipher my code. :lol: or if you can figure it out all on your own I am proud of you and offer a signed deploma by me for your crafty mind and ability to think outside the box. :thumbup:

    Godfather.
    CEO and Founder of creative spelling*colleges for the verbally gifted.
    PM Godfather for class avalibility and times or work at your own speed
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    ...
    I think you are missing the point...
    It is one thing to seek a college deferment to avoid going to war... and letting someone else go in your place... and being FOR War when your ass is no longer on the line. It's one thing to talk big shit about "Going over THERE to kick some ass!"... but, when it was your time to go, you shit in your pants.
    That is cowardice.
    If it is not... what is it?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cosmo wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    all the sudden if a person is in college and does not make the draft he's a koward (spelling just for you buddy)
    now coming from a group that want's to down size our military and blames every famin or conflict on the US ?
    now that's rich my friend :lol: ...maybe not you I'm not sure but it seems that just about 80% of the train whines and crys about wars but now that we are talking about Ted...only a koward avoids war ?..bro we gotta work on spicific defenations of kowardness and what wars are bad or gud :mrgreen:

    and my spelling....whata ya nu here ? :lol: but if you have a problem reading my posts ask your nephew to help you desipher my code. :lol: or if you can figure it out all on your own I am proud of you and offer a signed deploma by me for your crafty mind and ability to think outside the box. :thumbup:

    Godfather.
    CEO and Founder of creative spelling*colleges for the verbally gifted.
    PM Godfather for class avalibility and times or work at your own speed
    with my on line classes.
    ...
    I think you are missing the point...
    It is one thing to seek a college deferment to avoid going to war... and letting someone else go in your place... and being FOR War when your ass is no longer on the line. It's one thing to talk big shit about "Going over THERE to kick some ass!"... but, when it was your time to go, you shit in your pants.
    That is cowardice.
    If it is not... what is it?

    I don't know if that's the case...maybe it is. at 18 years old after watching the war on t.v news every night would be enough to scare the the shit out of Freddy Cruger, for some the thought of dieing and fear of it
    lessons as we get older (growing some balls) so what you are doing is judging an 18 year old kid for being scard, not such a good argument in my opinion...if that was the case.

    Godfather.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    redrock wrote:
    .... yet you approve/condone the unscrupulous killing of animals for no other reason that to fulfill some sick ego trip, the rarer/bigger the animal, the better the 'decoration'? Something doesn't quite sound right here. Or maybe it's just because spiders don't make good trophies that they are worth 'relocating'... ;)
    I don't kill period...

    I accept there are hunters for food and trophy
    as I have said and am not a judging person in my heart, certainly feel I am in no position
    to judge, where we differ and I am a forgiving person ...
    hopeful also and believe everyone has their own lives, lessons and paths.
    Not my place to tell them how to live their lives
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    pandora wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    .... yet you approve/condone the unscrupulous killing of animals for no other reason that to fulfill some sick ego trip, the rarer/bigger the animal, the better the 'decoration'? Something doesn't quite sound right here. Or maybe it's just because spiders don't make good trophies that they are worth 'relocating'... ;)
    I don't kill period...

    I accept there are hunters for food and trophy
    as I have said and am not a judging person in my heart, certainly feel I am in no position
    to judge, where we differ and I am a forgiving person ...
    hopeful also and believe everyone has their own lives, lessons and paths.
    Not my place to tell them how to live their lives

    well said my friend ! :clap::clap:

    Godfather.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Damn the other thread got locked , the more bashing of this creep the better .....
    it was a Ted friendly thread ;)
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    murdering a polar bear for its pelt is the exact equivalent as a person who murderers other humans and why not throw in child molester. yep i will throw that in there too.

    a bear killer is the exact equivalent as a child molester as is the mountain lion killer the exact equal of that of a rapist
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,215
    pandora wrote:
    Damn the other thread got locked , the more bashing of this creep the better .....
    it was a Ted friendly thread ;)

    I know at this point this has gotten to the stupid stage i'm done with it , i have to admitt you hold your ground really well around these parts ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Godfather. wrote:
    all the sudden if a person is in college and does not make the draft he's a koward (spelling just for you buddy)
    now coming from a group that want's to down size our military and blames every famin or conflict on the US ?
    now that's rich my friend :lol: ...maybe not you I'm not sure but it seems that just about 80% of the train whines and crys about wars but now that we are talking about Ted...only a koward avoids war ?..bro we gotta work on spicific defenations of kowardness and what wars are bad or gud :mrgreen:

    and my spelling....whata ya nu here ? :lol: but if you have a problem reading my posts ask your nephew to help you desipher my code. :lol: or if you can figure it out all on your own I am proud of you and offer a signed deploma by me for your crafty mind and ability to think outside the box. :thumbup:

    Godfather.
    CEO and Founder of creative spelling*colleges for the verbally gifted.
    PM Godfather for class avalibility and times or work at your own speed
    with my on line classes.

    Godfather. wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    I think you are missing the point...
    It is one thing to seek a college deferment to avoid going to war... and letting someone else go in your place... and being FOR War when your ass is no longer on the line. It's one thing to talk big shit about "Going over THERE to kick some ass!"... but, when it was your time to go, you shit in your pants.
    That is cowardice.
    If it is not... what is it?

    I don't know if that's the case...maybe it is. at 18 years old after watching the war on t.v news every night would be enough to scare the the shit out of Freddy Cruger, for some the thought of dieing and fear of it
    lessons as we get older (growing some balls) so what you are doing is judging an 18 year old kid for being scard, not such a good argument in my opinion...if that was the case.

    Godfather.

    It's one thing to be nervious or scared to go to war as an 18 year old most are. However, why then like TN come out in later years after dodging himself be PRO War. It appears it's much easier to say when your ass is NOT on the line. One can say and be pro war when you have NOT stepped forward and done your duty but it's gutless you yourself TN to cut and run from the the Vietnam War.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited April 2012
    Godfather. wrote:
    I don't know if that's the case...maybe it is. at 18 years old after watching the war on t.v news every night would be enough to scare the the shit out of Freddy Cruger, for some the thought of dieing and fear of it
    lessons as we get older (growing some balls) so what you are doing is judging an 18 year old kid for being scard, not such a good argument in my opinion...if that was the case.

    Godfather.
    ...
    I'm from the tail end of the Viet Nam thing. I was in the last draft lottery in 1973. Viet Nam was winding down by then, but I remember worrying about my older brother getting drafted and having some of my friend's older brothers getting drafted. Yeah... it was scary shit... but, guess what? Those fuckers went. THOSE 18 year old kids got sent to Viet Nam and, fortunately, came back home.
    If you don't have balls by age 18... you aren't growing them. You are a fucking hypocrite at best... if you dodge the draft in 1969 and are all Gung Ho about sending someone else's 18 year old to Afghanistan and fucking Iraq in2001. It doesn't mean you've 'Grown some balls'.... it just means you are so full of shit, it comes spewing from your mouth.
    That's Ted Nugent in a nutshell. He was a fucking chickenshit 18 year old then and he's a chickenshit old man now. If he did grow some balls, as you stated... then, he would have enlisted in 2001 and gone to Afghanistan to overcome his cowardice of Viet Nam. Instead, he is safe and sound, shooting at living things that cannot shoot back.
    Post edited by Cosmo on
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited April 2012
    i'd never in all the time that will ever exist or has already existed accept and take into my warm heart a trophy hunting piece of trash. canned hunts are for evil two legged animals only and only just as brutal are those who accept, understand and do nothing to fight against.

    ted nugent and the like are worthless and should be judged by everyone, everyday for the murders of countless fantastic lives. i will forever judge ted nugent and the like for destroying animalistic greatness and mine and animals' sacred days and filling me with disgust.

    speaking of sacred. ted does not understand the word
    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    chadwick wrote:
    murdering a polar bear for its pelt is the exact equivalent as a person who murderers other humans and why not throw in child molester. yep i will throw that in there too.

    a bear killer is the exact equivalent as a child molester as is the mountain lion killer the exact equal of that of a rapist
    this is where you lose me though Chad... and have repeatedly

    A hunter, not a poacher, does not have motives like this.
    Of course some hunters may be despicable
    but you put every hunter into the same category without knowing anything about them.
    and lump them with killers and child molesters :?

    That is unfair, its also exactly what I did 15 years ago.

    You do this to many humans, those unlike yourself, as many people do, as I did.
    A do as I do , a think as I think ... attitude. Remember there are exceptions to the rule
    and we can not know what is in the heart.

    Freeing yourself of that helps one learn about others and love them unconditionally
    and come to terms with the fact each of us have to learn from our mistakes.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,215
    chadwick wrote:
    i'd never in all the time that will ever exist or has already existed accept and take into my warm heart a trophy hunting piece of trash. canned hunts are for evil two legged animals only and only just as brutal are those you accept, understand and do nothing to fight against.

    ted nugent and the like are worthless and should be judged by everyone, everyday for the murders of countless fantastic lives. i will forever judge ted nugent and the like for destroying animalistic greatness and mine and animals' sacred days and filling me with disgust.

    speaking of sacred. ted does not understand the word

    Nor does he understand how to writte good music :lol:
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Cosmo wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    I don't know if that's the case...maybe it is. at 18 years old after watching the war on t.v news every night would be enough to scare the the shit out of Freddy Cruger, for some the thought of dieing and fear of it
    lessons as we get older (growing some balls) so what you are doing is judging an 18 year old kid for being scard, not such a good argument in my opinion...if that was the case.

    Godfather.
    ...
    I'm from the tail end of the Viet Nam thing. I was in the last draft lottery in 1973. Viet Nam was winding down by then, but I remember worrying about my older brother getting drafted and having some of my friend's older brothers getting drafted. Yeah... it was scary shit... but, guess what? Those fuckers went. THOSE 18 year old kids got sent to Viet Nam and, fortunately, came back home.
    If you don't have balls by age 18... you aren't growing them. You are a fucking hypocrite at best... if you dodge the draft in 1969 and are all Gung Ho about sending someone else's 18 year old to Afghanistan and fucking Iraq in2001. It doesn't mean you've 'Grown some balls'.... it just means you are so full of shit, it comes spewing from your mouth.
    That's Ted Nugent in a nutshell. He was a fucking chickenshit 18 year old then and he's a chickenshit old man now. If he did grow some balls, as you stated... then, he would have enlisted in 2001 and gone to Afghanistan to overcome his cowardice of Viet Nam. Instead, he is safe and sound, shooting at living things that cannot shoot back.

    cosmo, i could kiss you!

    thank you
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,215
    Cosmo wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    I don't know if that's the case...maybe it is. at 18 years old after watching the war on t.v news every night would be enough to scare the the shit out of Freddy Cruger, for some the thought of dieing and fear of it
    lessons as we get older (growing some balls) so what you are doing is judging an 18 year old kid for being scard, not such a good argument in my opinion...if that was the case.

    Godfather.
    ...
    I'm from the tail end of the Viet Nam thing. I was in the last draft lottery in 1973. Viet Nam was winding down by then, but I remember worrying about my older brother getting drafted and having some of my friend's older brothers getting drafted. Yeah... it was scary shit... but, guess what? Those fuckers went. THOSE 18 year old kids got sent to Viet Nam and, fortunately, came back home.
    If you don't have balls by age 18... you aren't growing them. You are a fucking hypocrite at best... if you dodge the draft in 1969 and are all Gung Ho about sending someone else's 18 year old to Afghanistan and fucking Iraq in2001. It doesn't mean you've 'Grown some balls'.... it just means you are so full of shit, it comes spewing from your mouth.
    That's Ted Nugent in a nutshell. He was a fucking chickenshit 18 year old then and he's a chickenshit old man now. If he did grow some balls, as you stated... then, he would have enlisted in 2001 and gone to Afghanistan to overcome his cowardice of Viet Nam. Instead, he is safe and sound, shooting at living things that cannot shoot back.

    That sums it up the best i have read here .....
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    pandora wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    murdering a polar bear for its pelt is the exact equivalent as a person who murderers other humans and why not throw in child molester. yep i will throw that in there too.

    a bear killer is the exact equivalent as a child molester as is the mountain lion killer the exact equal of that of a rapist
    this is where you lose me though Chad... and have repeatedly

    A hunter, not a poacher, does not have motives like this.
    Of course some hunters may be despicable
    but you put every hunter into the same category without knowing anything about them.
    and lump them with killers and child molesters :?

    That is unfair, its also exactly what I did 15 years ago.

    You do this to many humans, those unlike yourself, as many people do, as I did.
    A do as I do , a think as I think ... attitude. Remember there are exceptions to the rule
    and we can not know what is in the heart.

    Freeing yourself of that helps one learn about others and love them unconditionally
    and come to terms with the fact each of us have to learn from our mistakes.
    i never put every 'hunter' in the same catergory ever in my life

    you do not follow what i write at all. i do not know how many times i need to spell it out for you
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    pandora wrote:
    I get it about the judging. I'm no saint and I'm sure others might determine some of my actions are/were unaccepatble, but that's not necessarily saying that "Markin Ball" is bad. I'm not asking you to judge anyone as a person. I'm asking how you about their behavior. You find that judging is wrong as a behavior? How can you find trophy hunting to be an acceptable behavior?
    I can not tell others what they themselves need to learn. I have learned what I have
    on my path. I have learned to accept the fact that there are people
    on this earth who hunt, for trophy and to eat.
    The time may come in their lives that they will find what they do to be wrong.
    I have also wrongly judged hunters hearts in the past. That is on me.
    I feel judging is wrong and it comes way to easy for others...
    in fact it seems a past time these days ;)

    look around :lol:

    I am not asking for your reasons on why you don't oppose those persons that trophy hunt, I am asking you what your rationale is for not being "opposed to (the act of) trophy hunting".
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

    "With our thoughts we make the world"
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    edited April 2012
    pandora wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    .... yet you approve/condone the unscrupulous killing of animals for no other reason that to fulfill some sick ego trip, the rarer/bigger the animal, the better the 'decoration'? Something doesn't quite sound right here. Or maybe it's just because spiders don't make good trophies that they are worth 'relocating'... ;)
    I don't kill period...

    I accept there are hunters for food and trophy
    as I have said and am not a judging person in my heart, certainly feel I am in no positio
    to judge, where we differ and I am a forgiving person ...
    hopeful also and believe everyone has their own lives, lessons and paths.
    Not my place to tell them how to live their lives

    When you say you do not oppose trophy hunting, we are not talking about judging a person but an action/a behaviour. We are talking about one condoning an unscrupulous act. If one's belief is not to kill anything, how can one then turn around and say they believe it's ok to kill for a trophy? Being the non jugemental and forgiving person you are, if you said you opposed trophy killing (as it serves no valid purpose) as you even relocate spiders but you said live and let live to those who kill for this reason (though not much of the 'let live' for the animals) and you're OK with them doing their thing, that would be more palatable than condoning the behaviour.

    Being the jugemental and unforgiving person that I am (I guess, as insuniated), I speak out against this type of behaviour, I do not shy away from this. And again, we are NOT talking about real and ethical hunters. I also accept there are hunters,poachers,trophy hunters,murderers, rapists,polluters,etc. That is not the point.

    One can judge actions without judging people. Though Nugent can easily be judged by his actions and his 'rants'.
    Post edited by redrock on
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    I am not asking for your reasons on why you don't oppose those persons that trophy hunt, I am asking you what your rationale is for not being "opposed to (the act of) trophy hunting".
    I accept trophy hunters therefore I accept what they do ... yes?
    if it is within the law.

    Because I would not conceive doing it doesn't mean others shouldn't.
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