Nugent is such a tough guy. Typical loudmouth pussy: all bark and no bite. It's good to see what a patriot he is, like his boys Bush and Cheney. Draft dodgers and cowards, like the tough guy warmongerers on this board.
"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." ~Jean-Paul Sartre
great post ! if I thought you knew what you were talking about I might be offended.....NAHH.
Godfather.
A dude whose spelling is worse than my 3 year old nephew's telling me I don't know what I am talking about?
That's rich.
A draft dodger who supports war is a coward. A citizen who supports war and doesn't enlist is a coward. Quite simple.
all the sudden if a person is in college and does not make the draft he's a koward (spelling just for you buddy)
now coming from a group that want's to down size our military and blames every famin or conflict on the US ?
now that's rich my friend ...maybe not you I'm not sure but it seems that just about 80% of the train whines and crys about wars but now that we are talking about Ted...only a koward avoids war ?..bro we gotta work on spicific defenations of kowardness and what wars are bad or gud
and my spelling....whata ya nu here ? but if you have a problem reading my posts ask your nephew to help you desipher my code. or if you can figure it out all on your own I am proud of you and offer a signed deploma by me for your crafty mind and ability to think outside the box. :thumbup:
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there is not much to dwell on. there is not much to study. there is not much to contemplate. there is not much to ponder. there is not much to understand.
a small wikileaks cache worth of evidence has been presented and the conclusion is obvious.
the man gets off on having sex with underage girls. this is illegal, yet somehow is kosher with some people on here.
the man does not engage anything or anyone that might harm him while defending itself. he is pro war but refused to fight. this is cowardice. somehow it is ok with some people on here.
he gets off on killing things.
both legally and illegally.
the posters who are defending nugent in this thread also tried to defend zimmerman in the trayvon martin thread by saying the same things. that they were trying to understand him.
it is just a feeble attempt to try to justify and validate ted nugent's actions. to me there is no defending nugent. in my opinion if you are not against his actions, then by default you support them.
This post should NOT go unnoticed. I can't understand those who may want understand a person such as Ted Nugent. It sort of like that kind of a person wants to justify walking on a fence making sure to NOT admit he's done many wrongs that many have strong opinions on that they MUST speak up on what he's done in his past. It appears he's continuing to still do some of them.
I rather hear from those who say I straight up I love the guy no matter what his past crimes or indiscretions have been. Now I can understand that point of view rather those who want to play both sides in that they come off appearing to be defending them or him.
Should we try to understand OJ, Charles Manson or the DC Sniper...yes we can study their cases but what really does it mean to understand these people and their actions?
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I get it about the judging. I'm no saint and I'm sure others might determine some of my actions are/were unaccepatble, but that's not necessarily saying that "Markin Ball" is bad. I'm not asking you to judge anyone as a person. I'm asking how you about their behavior. You find that judging is wrong as a behavior? How can you find trophy hunting to be an acceptable behavior?
I can not tell others what they themselves need to learn. I have learned what I have
on my path. I have learned to accept the fact that there are people
on this earth who hunt, for trophy and to eat.
The time may come in their lives that they will find what they do to be wrong.
I have also wrongly judged hunters hearts in the past. That is on me.
I feel judging is wrong and it comes way to easy for others...
in fact it seems a past time these days
there is not much to dwell on. there is not much to study. there is not much to contemplate. there is not much to ponder. there is not much to understand.
a small wikileaks cache worth of evidence has been presented and the conclusion is obvious.
the man gets off on having sex with underage girls. this is illegal, yet somehow is kosher with some people on here.
the man does not engage anything or anyone that might harm him while defending itself. he is pro war but refused to fight. this is cowardice. somehow it is ok with some people on here.
he gets off on killing things.
both legally and illegally.
the posters who are defending nugent in this thread also tried to defend zimmerman in the trayvon martin thread by saying the same things. that they were trying to understand him.
it is just a feeble attempt to try to justify and validate ted nugent's actions. to me there is no defending nugent. in my opinion if you are not against his actions, then by default you support them.
This post should NOT go unnoticed. I can't understand those who may want understand a person such as Ted Nugent. It sort of like that kind of a person wants to justify walking on a fence making sure to NOT admit he's done many wrongs that many have strong opinions on that they MUST speak up on what he's done in his past. It appears he's continuing to still do some of them.
I rather hear from those who say I straight up I love the guy no matter what his past crimes or indiscretions have been. Now I can understand that point of view rather those who want to play both sides in that they come off appearing to be defending them or him.
Should we try to understand OJ, Charles Manson or the DC Sniper...yes we can study their cases but what really does it mean to understand these people and their actions?
Peace
duley noted my friend but said post is just more ramblings of the same argument with no real proof of some or most of the ...(this is a tuff one BEAR with me) acussations ?
all the sudden if a person is in college and does not make the draft he's a koward (spelling just for you buddy)
now coming from a group that want's to down size our military and blames every famin or conflict on the US ?
now that's rich my friend ...maybe not you I'm not sure but it seems that just about 80% of the train whines and crys about wars but now that we are talking about Ted...only a koward avoids war ?..bro we gotta work on spicific defenations of kowardness and what wars are bad or gud
and my spelling....whata ya nu here ? but if you have a problem reading my posts ask your nephew to help you desipher my code. or if you can figure it out all on your own I am proud of you and offer a signed deploma by me for your crafty mind and ability to think outside the box. :thumbup:
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I think you are missing the point...
It is one thing to seek a college deferment to avoid going to war... and letting someone else go in your place... and being FOR War when your ass is no longer on the line. It's one thing to talk big shit about "Going over THERE to kick some ass!"... but, when it was your time to go, you shit in your pants.
That is cowardice.
If it is not... what is it?
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all the sudden if a person is in college and does not make the draft he's a koward (spelling just for you buddy)
now coming from a group that want's to down size our military and blames every famin or conflict on the US ?
now that's rich my friend ...maybe not you I'm not sure but it seems that just about 80% of the train whines and crys about wars but now that we are talking about Ted...only a koward avoids war ?..bro we gotta work on spicific defenations of kowardness and what wars are bad or gud
and my spelling....whata ya nu here ? but if you have a problem reading my posts ask your nephew to help you desipher my code. or if you can figure it out all on your own I am proud of you and offer a signed deploma by me for your crafty mind and ability to think outside the box. :thumbup:
Godfather.
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I think you are missing the point...
It is one thing to seek a college deferment to avoid going to war... and letting someone else go in your place... and being FOR War when your ass is no longer on the line. It's one thing to talk big shit about "Going over THERE to kick some ass!"... but, when it was your time to go, you shit in your pants.
That is cowardice.
If it is not... what is it?
I don't know if that's the case...maybe it is. at 18 years old after watching the war on t.v news every night would be enough to scare the the shit out of Freddy Cruger, for some the thought of dieing and fear of it
lessons as we get older (growing some balls) so what you are doing is judging an 18 year old kid for being scard, not such a good argument in my opinion...if that was the case.
.... yet you approve/condone the unscrupulous killing of animals for no other reason that to fulfill some sick ego trip, the rarer/bigger the animal, the better the 'decoration'? Something doesn't quite sound right here. Or maybe it's just because spiders don't make good trophies that they are worth 'relocating'...
I don't kill period...
I accept there are hunters for food and trophy
as I have said and am not a judging person in my heart, certainly feel I am in no position
to judge, where we differ and I am a forgiving person ...
hopeful also and believe everyone has their own lives, lessons and paths.
Not my place to tell them how to live their lives
.... yet you approve/condone the unscrupulous killing of animals for no other reason that to fulfill some sick ego trip, the rarer/bigger the animal, the better the 'decoration'? Something doesn't quite sound right here. Or maybe it's just because spiders don't make good trophies that they are worth 'relocating'...
I don't kill period...
I accept there are hunters for food and trophy
as I have said and am not a judging person in my heart, certainly feel I am in no position
to judge, where we differ and I am a forgiving person ...
hopeful also and believe everyone has their own lives, lessons and paths.
Not my place to tell them how to live their lives
murdering a polar bear for its pelt is the exact equivalent as a person who murderers other humans and why not throw in child molester. yep i will throw that in there too.
a bear killer is the exact equivalent as a child molester as is the mountain lion killer the exact equal of that of a rapist
all the sudden if a person is in college and does not make the draft he's a koward (spelling just for you buddy)
now coming from a group that want's to down size our military and blames every famin or conflict on the US ?
now that's rich my friend ...maybe not you I'm not sure but it seems that just about 80% of the train whines and crys about wars but now that we are talking about Ted...only a koward avoids war ?..bro we gotta work on spicific defenations of kowardness and what wars are bad or gud
and my spelling....whata ya nu here ? but if you have a problem reading my posts ask your nephew to help you desipher my code. or if you can figure it out all on your own I am proud of you and offer a signed deploma by me for your crafty mind and ability to think outside the box. :thumbup:
Godfather.
CEO and Founder of creative spelling*colleges for the verbally gifted.
PM Godfather for class avalibility and times or work at your own speed
with my on line classes.
...
I think you are missing the point...
It is one thing to seek a college deferment to avoid going to war... and letting someone else go in your place... and being FOR War when your ass is no longer on the line. It's one thing to talk big shit about "Going over THERE to kick some ass!"... but, when it was your time to go, you shit in your pants.
That is cowardice.
If it is not... what is it?
I don't know if that's the case...maybe it is. at 18 years old after watching the war on t.v news every night would be enough to scare the the shit out of Freddy Cruger, for some the thought of dieing and fear of it
lessons as we get older (growing some balls) so what you are doing is judging an 18 year old kid for being scard, not such a good argument in my opinion...if that was the case.
Godfather.
It's one thing to be nervious or scared to go to war as an 18 year old most are. However, why then like TN come out in later years after dodging himself be PRO War. It appears it's much easier to say when your ass is NOT on the line. One can say and be pro war when you have NOT stepped forward and done your duty but it's gutless you yourself TN to cut and run from the the Vietnam War.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I don't know if that's the case...maybe it is. at 18 years old after watching the war on t.v news every night would be enough to scare the the shit out of Freddy Cruger, for some the thought of dieing and fear of it
lessons as we get older (growing some balls) so what you are doing is judging an 18 year old kid for being scard, not such a good argument in my opinion...if that was the case.
Godfather.
...
I'm from the tail end of the Viet Nam thing. I was in the last draft lottery in 1973. Viet Nam was winding down by then, but I remember worrying about my older brother getting drafted and having some of my friend's older brothers getting drafted. Yeah... it was scary shit... but, guess what? Those fuckers went. THOSE 18 year old kids got sent to Viet Nam and, fortunately, came back home.
If you don't have balls by age 18... you aren't growing them. You are a fucking hypocrite at best... if you dodge the draft in 1969 and are all Gung Ho about sending someone else's 18 year old to Afghanistan and fucking Iraq in2001. It doesn't mean you've 'Grown some balls'.... it just means you are so full of shit, it comes spewing from your mouth.
That's Ted Nugent in a nutshell. He was a fucking chickenshit 18 year old then and he's a chickenshit old man now. If he did grow some balls, as you stated... then, he would have enlisted in 2001 and gone to Afghanistan to overcome his cowardice of Viet Nam. Instead, he is safe and sound, shooting at living things that cannot shoot back.
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Hail, Hail!!!
i'd never in all the time that will ever exist or has already existed accept and take into my warm heart a trophy hunting piece of trash. canned hunts are for evil two legged animals only and only just as brutal are those who accept, understand and do nothing to fight against.
ted nugent and the like are worthless and should be judged by everyone, everyday for the murders of countless fantastic lives. i will forever judge ted nugent and the like for destroying animalistic greatness and mine and animals' sacred days and filling me with disgust.
speaking of sacred. ted does not understand the word
murdering a polar bear for its pelt is the exact equivalent as a person who murderers other humans and why not throw in child molester. yep i will throw that in there too.
a bear killer is the exact equivalent as a child molester as is the mountain lion killer the exact equal of that of a rapist
this is where you lose me though Chad... and have repeatedly
A hunter, not a poacher, does not have motives like this.
Of course some hunters may be despicable
but you put every hunter into the same category without knowing anything about them.
and lump them with killers and child molesters :?
That is unfair, its also exactly what I did 15 years ago.
You do this to many humans, those unlike yourself, as many people do, as I did.
A do as I do , a think as I think ... attitude. Remember there are exceptions to the rule
and we can not know what is in the heart.
Freeing yourself of that helps one learn about others and love them unconditionally
and come to terms with the fact each of us have to learn from our mistakes.
i'd never in all the time that will ever exist or has already existed accept and take into my warm heart a trophy hunting piece of trash. canned hunts are for evil two legged animals only and only just as brutal are those you accept, understand and do nothing to fight against.
ted nugent and the like are worthless and should be judged by everyone, everyday for the murders of countless fantastic lives. i will forever judge ted nugent and the like for destroying animalistic greatness and mine and animals' sacred days and filling me with disgust.
speaking of sacred. ted does not understand the word
I don't know if that's the case...maybe it is. at 18 years old after watching the war on t.v news every night would be enough to scare the the shit out of Freddy Cruger, for some the thought of dieing and fear of it
lessons as we get older (growing some balls) so what you are doing is judging an 18 year old kid for being scard, not such a good argument in my opinion...if that was the case.
Godfather.
...
I'm from the tail end of the Viet Nam thing. I was in the last draft lottery in 1973. Viet Nam was winding down by then, but I remember worrying about my older brother getting drafted and having some of my friend's older brothers getting drafted. Yeah... it was scary shit... but, guess what? Those fuckers went. THOSE 18 year old kids got sent to Viet Nam and, fortunately, came back home.
If you don't have balls by age 18... you aren't growing them. You are a fucking hypocrite at best... if you dodge the draft in 1969 and are all Gung Ho about sending someone else's 18 year old to Afghanistan and fucking Iraq in2001. It doesn't mean you've 'Grown some balls'.... it just means you are so full of shit, it comes spewing from your mouth.
That's Ted Nugent in a nutshell. He was a fucking chickenshit 18 year old then and he's a chickenshit old man now. If he did grow some balls, as you stated... then, he would have enlisted in 2001 and gone to Afghanistan to overcome his cowardice of Viet Nam. Instead, he is safe and sound, shooting at living things that cannot shoot back.
I don't know if that's the case...maybe it is. at 18 years old after watching the war on t.v news every night would be enough to scare the the shit out of Freddy Cruger, for some the thought of dieing and fear of it
lessons as we get older (growing some balls) so what you are doing is judging an 18 year old kid for being scard, not such a good argument in my opinion...if that was the case.
Godfather.
...
I'm from the tail end of the Viet Nam thing. I was in the last draft lottery in 1973. Viet Nam was winding down by then, but I remember worrying about my older brother getting drafted and having some of my friend's older brothers getting drafted. Yeah... it was scary shit... but, guess what? Those fuckers went. THOSE 18 year old kids got sent to Viet Nam and, fortunately, came back home.
If you don't have balls by age 18... you aren't growing them. You are a fucking hypocrite at best... if you dodge the draft in 1969 and are all Gung Ho about sending someone else's 18 year old to Afghanistan and fucking Iraq in2001. It doesn't mean you've 'Grown some balls'.... it just means you are so full of shit, it comes spewing from your mouth.
That's Ted Nugent in a nutshell. He was a fucking chickenshit 18 year old then and he's a chickenshit old man now. If he did grow some balls, as you stated... then, he would have enlisted in 2001 and gone to Afghanistan to overcome his cowardice of Viet Nam. Instead, he is safe and sound, shooting at living things that cannot shoot back.
murdering a polar bear for its pelt is the exact equivalent as a person who murderers other humans and why not throw in child molester. yep i will throw that in there too.
a bear killer is the exact equivalent as a child molester as is the mountain lion killer the exact equal of that of a rapist
this is where you lose me though Chad... and have repeatedly
A hunter, not a poacher, does not have motives like this.
Of course some hunters may be despicable
but you put every hunter into the same category without knowing anything about them.
and lump them with killers and child molesters :?
That is unfair, its also exactly what I did 15 years ago.
You do this to many humans, those unlike yourself, as many people do, as I did.
A do as I do , a think as I think ... attitude. Remember there are exceptions to the rule
and we can not know what is in the heart.
Freeing yourself of that helps one learn about others and love them unconditionally
and come to terms with the fact each of us have to learn from our mistakes.
i never put every 'hunter' in the same catergory ever in my life
you do not follow what i write at all. i do not know how many times i need to spell it out for you
I get it about the judging. I'm no saint and I'm sure others might determine some of my actions are/were unaccepatble, but that's not necessarily saying that "Markin Ball" is bad. I'm not asking you to judge anyone as a person. I'm asking how you about their behavior. You find that judging is wrong as a behavior? How can you find trophy hunting to be an acceptable behavior?
I can not tell others what they themselves need to learn. I have learned what I have
on my path. I have learned to accept the fact that there are people
on this earth who hunt, for trophy and to eat.
The time may come in their lives that they will find what they do to be wrong.
I have also wrongly judged hunters hearts in the past. That is on me.
I feel judging is wrong and it comes way to easy for others...
in fact it seems a past time these days
look around
I am not asking for your reasons on why you don't oppose those persons that trophy hunt, I am asking you what your rationale is for not being "opposed to (the act of) trophy hunting".
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
.... yet you approve/condone the unscrupulous killing of animals for no other reason that to fulfill some sick ego trip, the rarer/bigger the animal, the better the 'decoration'? Something doesn't quite sound right here. Or maybe it's just because spiders don't make good trophies that they are worth 'relocating'...
I don't kill period...
I accept there are hunters for food and trophy
as I have said and am not a judging person in my heart, certainly feel I am in no positio
to judge, where we differ and I am a forgiving person ...
hopeful also and believe everyone has their own lives, lessons and paths.
Not my place to tell them how to live their lives
When you say you do not oppose trophy hunting, we are not talking about judging a person but an action/a behaviour. We are talking about one condoning an unscrupulous act. If one's belief is not to kill anything, how can one then turn around and say they believe it's ok to kill for a trophy? Being the non jugemental and forgiving person you are, if you said you opposed trophy killing (as it serves no valid purpose) as you even relocate spiders but you said live and let live to those who kill for this reason (though not much of the 'let live' for the animals) and you're OK with them doing their thing, that would be more palatable than condoning the behaviour.
Being the jugemental and unforgiving person that I am (I guess, as insuniated), I speak out against this type of behaviour, I do not shy away from this. And again, we are NOT talking about real and ethical hunters. I also accept there are hunters,poachers,trophy hunters,murderers, rapists,polluters,etc. That is not the point.
One can judge actions without judging people. Though Nugent can easily be judged by his actions and his 'rants'.
I am not asking for your reasons on why you don't oppose those persons that trophy hunt, I am asking you what your rationale is for not being "opposed to (the act of) trophy hunting".
I accept trophy hunters therefore I accept what they do ... yes?
if it is within the law.
Because I would not conceive doing it doesn't mean others shouldn't.
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"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Buffalo Skulls
i'll take your word, i've never treid old man before
all the sudden if a person is in college and does not make the draft he's a koward (spelling just for you buddy)
now coming from a group that want's to down size our military and blames every famin or conflict on the US ?
now that's rich my friend ...maybe not you I'm not sure but it seems that just about 80% of the train whines and crys about wars but now that we are talking about Ted...only a koward avoids war ?..bro we gotta work on spicific defenations of kowardness and what wars are bad or gud
and my spelling....whata ya nu here ? but if you have a problem reading my posts ask your nephew to help you desipher my code. or if you can figure it out all on your own I am proud of you and offer a signed deploma by me for your crafty mind and ability to think outside the box. :thumbup:
Godfather.
CEO and Founder of creative spelling*colleges for the verbally gifted.
PM Godfather for class avalibility and times or work at your own speed
with my on line classes.
This post should NOT go unnoticed. I can't understand those who may want understand a person such as Ted Nugent. It sort of like that kind of a person wants to justify walking on a fence making sure to NOT admit he's done many wrongs that many have strong opinions on that they MUST speak up on what he's done in his past. It appears he's continuing to still do some of them.
I rather hear from those who say I straight up I love the guy no matter what his past crimes or indiscretions have been. Now I can understand that point of view rather those who want to play both sides in that they come off appearing to be defending them or him.
Should we try to understand OJ, Charles Manson or the DC Sniper...yes we can study their cases but what really does it mean to understand these people and their actions?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
on my path. I have learned to accept the fact that there are people
on this earth who hunt, for trophy and to eat.
The time may come in their lives that they will find what they do to be wrong.
I have also wrongly judged hunters hearts in the past. That is on me.
I feel judging is wrong and it comes way to easy for others...
in fact it seems a past time these days
look around
duley noted my friend but said post is just more ramblings of the same argument with no real proof of some or most of the ...(this is a tuff one BEAR with me) acussations ?
Godfather.
I think you are missing the point...
It is one thing to seek a college deferment to avoid going to war... and letting someone else go in your place... and being FOR War when your ass is no longer on the line. It's one thing to talk big shit about "Going over THERE to kick some ass!"... but, when it was your time to go, you shit in your pants.
That is cowardice.
If it is not... what is it?
Hail, Hail!!!
I don't know if that's the case...maybe it is. at 18 years old after watching the war on t.v news every night would be enough to scare the the shit out of Freddy Cruger, for some the thought of dieing and fear of it
lessons as we get older (growing some balls) so what you are doing is judging an 18 year old kid for being scard, not such a good argument in my opinion...if that was the case.
Godfather.
I accept there are hunters for food and trophy
as I have said and am not a judging person in my heart, certainly feel I am in no position
to judge, where we differ and I am a forgiving person ...
hopeful also and believe everyone has their own lives, lessons and paths.
Not my place to tell them how to live their lives
well said my friend !
Godfather.
a bear killer is the exact equivalent as a child molester as is the mountain lion killer the exact equal of that of a rapist
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I know at this point this has gotten to the stupid stage i'm done with it , i have to admitt you hold your ground really well around these parts ....
It's one thing to be nervious or scared to go to war as an 18 year old most are. However, why then like TN come out in later years after dodging himself be PRO War. It appears it's much easier to say when your ass is NOT on the line. One can say and be pro war when you have NOT stepped forward and done your duty but it's gutless you yourself TN to cut and run from the the Vietnam War.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I'm from the tail end of the Viet Nam thing. I was in the last draft lottery in 1973. Viet Nam was winding down by then, but I remember worrying about my older brother getting drafted and having some of my friend's older brothers getting drafted. Yeah... it was scary shit... but, guess what? Those fuckers went. THOSE 18 year old kids got sent to Viet Nam and, fortunately, came back home.
If you don't have balls by age 18... you aren't growing them. You are a fucking hypocrite at best... if you dodge the draft in 1969 and are all Gung Ho about sending someone else's 18 year old to Afghanistan and fucking Iraq in2001. It doesn't mean you've 'Grown some balls'.... it just means you are so full of shit, it comes spewing from your mouth.
That's Ted Nugent in a nutshell. He was a fucking chickenshit 18 year old then and he's a chickenshit old man now. If he did grow some balls, as you stated... then, he would have enlisted in 2001 and gone to Afghanistan to overcome his cowardice of Viet Nam. Instead, he is safe and sound, shooting at living things that cannot shoot back.
Hail, Hail!!!
ted nugent and the like are worthless and should be judged by everyone, everyday for the murders of countless fantastic lives. i will forever judge ted nugent and the like for destroying animalistic greatness and mine and animals' sacred days and filling me with disgust.
speaking of sacred. ted does not understand the word
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
A hunter, not a poacher, does not have motives like this.
Of course some hunters may be despicable
but you put every hunter into the same category without knowing anything about them.
and lump them with killers and child molesters :?
That is unfair, its also exactly what I did 15 years ago.
You do this to many humans, those unlike yourself, as many people do, as I did.
A do as I do , a think as I think ... attitude. Remember there are exceptions to the rule
and we can not know what is in the heart.
Freeing yourself of that helps one learn about others and love them unconditionally
and come to terms with the fact each of us have to learn from our mistakes.
Nor does he understand how to writte good music
cosmo, i could kiss you!
thank you
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
That sums it up the best i have read here .....
you do not follow what i write at all. i do not know how many times i need to spell it out for you
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I am not asking for your reasons on why you don't oppose those persons that trophy hunt, I am asking you what your rationale is for not being "opposed to (the act of) trophy hunting".
"With our thoughts we make the world"
When you say you do not oppose trophy hunting, we are not talking about judging a person but an action/a behaviour. We are talking about one condoning an unscrupulous act. If one's belief is not to kill anything, how can one then turn around and say they believe it's ok to kill for a trophy? Being the non jugemental and forgiving person you are, if you said you opposed trophy killing (as it serves no valid purpose) as you even relocate spiders but you said live and let live to those who kill for this reason (though not much of the 'let live' for the animals) and you're OK with them doing their thing, that would be more palatable than condoning the behaviour.
Being the jugemental and unforgiving person that I am (I guess, as insuniated), I speak out against this type of behaviour, I do not shy away from this. And again, we are NOT talking about real and ethical hunters. I also accept there are hunters,poachers,trophy hunters,murderers, rapists,polluters,etc. That is not the point.
One can judge actions without judging people. Though Nugent can easily be judged by his actions and his 'rants'.
if it is within the law.
Because I would not conceive doing it doesn't mean others shouldn't.