Nugent pleads guilty over illegal bear killing

redrock

brianlux wrote:

Oops... I'm not here, you didn't see that...

brianlux

Many people on the right are distancing themselves from Nugent. Some of his concerts are being cancelled, he's under a lot of well deserved scrutiny. Many on the right even are seeing him as a major liability. In the not too distant future he'll just be yet another flash-in-the-pan shock- rock/ shock-jock type personality. An embarrassment at best. What might be worth taking a closer look at is why somebody like Ted Nugent is getting so much attention in America in the first place.

mikepegg44

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Ted Nugent might be the only person who could've made Bob Ross fly off the handle.

he would have shoved a happy little tree somewhere

chadwick

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

here is another example from 2010. it is the first one that popped up in google search of "ted nugent and poaching"...this is the kind of sick heartless person we are talking about here...

Ted Nugent Caught Poaching on the Outdoor Channel

http://news.change.org/stories/ted-nuge ... or-channel

Ted Nugent, musician and hunting fanatic, was brought up on 11 charges of poaching, including baiting and killing a deer too young to be legally hunted. Ted Nugent pleaded no contest to the poaching charges and was fined $1,750 by the state of California.

Poaching is a serious crime against animals. Poachers shoot animals out of season or beyond legal limits. Poachers often use illegal methods of killing, and kill protected species.

Ironically, Ted Nugent was caught poaching because of his hunting television show, Spirit of the Wild on the Outdoor Channel. Apparently, game wardens saw Nugent kill an immature buck on a February episode of the show. An investigation was launched and California officials found that the immature deer had been eating bait called C’mere Deer. Baiting wildlife is illegal in California.

Nugent is a longserving board member of the National Rifle Association, referred to as "Uncle Ted" on the NRA website. The NRA says it "strongly supports every law-abiding American's privledge to hunt." The website also states that hunters are an important part of wildlife conservation and wildlife management.

As the President of the Humane Society of the United States pointed out, if the NRA is serious about abiding by a hunter's code of ethics, they should oust Nugent from their board for breaking the law.

Ted Nugent said earlier this year: “My name is Ted Nugent and because of Pam Anderson ... and because of Paul McCartney, all the members of PETA, whenever I hear the word animal or rights in the same paragraph, I’m killing an extra hundred of something this year. I have unlimited deer tags in Michigan and Texas, and I don’t even need to kill them really, but I’m going to. "

He continued on this tirade, using much more colorful language.

Ted Nugent has proven himself to be an enemy of wildlife. But Nugent wasn't alone when he baited and shot that young deer. He was followed by a television crew from the Outdoor Channel.

Outdoor Channel claims that they have "always understood the delicate balance between man, wildlife and the environment" and that the core values of the channel are "conservation, outreach, responsibility and education." Yet they have a show about a Nugent who says he aims "not just killing" but "slaughtering ... and "gut them and skin them, quarter them and butcher them." Oh dear.

thank you very much, gimmie. that is a horrorific read.

nugent actually just kills animals for the hell of it and to upset people. what kind of maniac is he, who does this kind of thing?

because PETA, Pam Anderson and Paul McCartney and others fight for animal rights Ted is going to kill many more than is even necessary just to irritate animal lovers.

truly a despicable bastard that guy.

most men would do anything to get the admiration of pammy anderson
not teddy. he wants to hurt her feelings and everyone else who gives a fuck

i feel deep inside of me that ted is going down. ted's world will crumble. fact.
why and how can i suggest such a thing?
because one cannot live that way without big bad karma kicking them square in the balls

Jeanwah

Another distraction tactic to keep people talking about other people and not about real issues... (not on these forums exactly, but in general. People would much rather be pre-occupied by others' bad actions to keep them distracted in general).

chadwick

Jeanwah wrote:

Another distraction tactic to keep people talking about other people and not about real issues... (not on these forums exactly, but in general. People would much rather be pre-occupied by others' bad actions to keep them distracted in general).

people give a damn about the planet and the creatures of this world. hence we read about poachers and we fantasize about kicking them in the throat or something. nothing wrong with being concerned about wildlife and the natural world. to me it is a must and a real issue.

Jeanwah

chadwick wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Another distraction tactic to keep people talking about other people and not about real issues... (not on these forums exactly, but in general. People would much rather be pre-occupied by others' bad actions to keep them distracted in general).

people give a damn about the planet and the creatures of this world. hence we read about poachers and we fantasize about kicking them in the throat or something. nothing wrong with being concerned about wildlife and the natural world. to me it is a must and a real issue.

I'm just stating that staying preoccupied with people's business in general, is a great distraction from focusing on bigger issues. That is all. ETA: Poaching is a bigger issue, but focusing on Ted Nugent and his idiotic choices and taking swipes at him (although I do think he's an asshole), decreases any effect of focusing on the bigger issue here.

Kat

Too many personal comments in this thread directed at each other.

The topic is: Nugent pleads guilty over illegal bear killing

chadwick

ted cannot obey hunting laws. he has proven that. i would bet real money that he has been a poacher most of his life.

AfghanTwilight

chadwick wrote:

only a true piece of garbage kills bears. ted should be beat down with a giant crowbar across both his feet.

You know something, if he truly is a piece of garbage, the bear would have likely eaten him first.

pandora

I have been wondering why Ted was not punished as a real poacher...

10,000 and a public service announcement I believe
seems lenient for a real poacher that carries stiffer fines and loss of gun ownership etc.

I know the incident happened in filming not while he was hunting personally,
perhaps this incident was not considered his fault entirely.
I know he's not a favorite of the government right now they could have stuck him with a harsher
sentence and been less fair.

Interesting...

chadwick

pandora wrote:

I have been wondering why Ted was not punished as a real poacher...

10,000 and a public service announcement I believe
seems lenient for a real poacher that carries stiffer fines and loss of gun ownership etc.

I know the incident happened in filming not while he was hunting personally,perhaps this incident was not considered his fault entirely.
I know he's not a favorite of the government right now they could have stuck him with a harsher
sentence and been less fair.

Interesting...

so while filming the murder of a bear it is less than important than when murdering personally?

JonnyPistachio

AfghanTwilight wrote:

chadwick wrote:

only a true piece of garbage kills bears. ted should be beat down with a giant crowbar across both his feet.

You know something, if he truly is a piece of garbage, the bear would have likely eaten him first.

If a bear knew exactly what a hunting rifle was, and wasnt just out for a nice wander in the woods looking for some berries or something to rub his/her back against, maybe it would've realized that Nugent is a piece of garbage and eviscerated him. maybe? But then again, I think a bear is even more evolved that Nugent, and wouldnt want the shitty taste of garbage in its mouth.

Godfather.

chadwick wrote:

pandora wrote:

I have been wondering why Ted was not punished as a real poacher...

10,000 and a public service announcement I believe
seems lenient for a real poacher that carries stiffer fines and loss of gun ownership etc.

I know the incident happened in filming not while he was hunting personally,perhaps this incident was not considered his fault entirely.
I know he's not a favorite of the government right now they could have stuck him with a harsher
sentence and been less fair.

Interesting...

so while filming the murder of a bear it is less than important than when murdering personally?

:shock: :fp: I had lunch with smokie the bear yesterday..he offered to cover the bill if I gave him a hand.

Godfather.

Godfather.

:corn:


Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

Godfather. wrote:

I gave him a hand.

Godfather.

What, he couldnt find a lady bear?
:shock: :oops:

:corn:



...just kidding bro!

Godfather.

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By Johnnie Crain of the Muscatine Journal The Muscatine Journal | Posted: Thursday, October 9, 2008 12:00 am | (0) Comments

Font Size:Default font sizeLarger font sizeMUSCATINE, Iowa – Outdoor Life has published a list of the top-15 celebrity sportsmen, and some of the picks may come as a surprise.

All celebrities are under constant pressure and outdoor sports is one way they deal with those pressures.

Mike Timlin, a pitcher for the Boston Red Sox, is an avid hunter and even wore a camouflage baseball glove until another team complained it was a distraction to the batters.

Michael Strahan, a defensive back for the N.Y. Giants football team, hunts wild turkeys in up-state New York to pass the time.

Hall of Fame baseball

pitcher Goose Gossage obviously is a goose hunter and also enjoys hunting elk and deer during the fall season.

Eli Manning, quarterback for the N.Y. Giants, loves to bass fish and is considered a threat in any bass tournament he enters.

His brother, Peyton, who is quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts, spends time hunting pheasant, quail and ducks.

Jack Nicklaus, the winningest golfer of all time,

relaxes by fly fishing for trout in Montana and Russia. Bo Jackson, excelled in baseball and football at the same time, and is also very active in fishing and hunting.

NCAA basketball coach Bobby Knight is either loved or hated and always controversial, but keeps his cool when hunting and fishing.

Rock star Ted Nugent has his own television outdoor show and writes articles about the virtues of hunting. Nugent is in great demand around the outdoor show circuits.

Rock star and movie actress Madonna is said to be a good pheasant hunter and better than average clay pigeon shooter.

Karl Malone, retired basketball star, hunts and fishes nearly every day when not making public appearances. Malone even started a Youth Conservation Initiative to get kids involved in the outdoors.

Legendary quarterback Brett Favre has said deer hunting is more important than football. He hunts whitetail deer and wild turkeys.

Pop diva Avril Lavigne grew up in Canada hunting with her brothers and also loves fishing of any kind. NASCAR driver Ryan Newman organizes trap shoots to fund wildlife habitat.

This housewife isn’t desperate. Eva Longoria of Desperate Housewives TV fame is on P.E.T.A.’s target list. Longoria is very vocal about loving to hunt and fish and says, “I can skin a deer, a rabbit, a pig and a snake and will eat them all.”

Help is needed

The Muscatine Power Boat Club has been devastated by storms and floods this year and could use some volunteers to step up and help out.

Donations of money, materials or labor would help get the clubhouse back into good shape before winter.

The boat club is located just across the Mississippi River from Muscatine by taking the first right turn after crossing the bridge.

On Saturday, Oct. 11, the club will host a smoked barbeque pork fundraiser, along with a kids fishing derby.

The barbeque will start at 11:30 a.m. with the fishing derby just before the lunch. Hot soup and hot chocolate will also be available.

Bring your lawn chairs or there is some inside seating. An $8 donation is requested for the lunch.

To offer assistance to the club or for additional information on Saturday’s event, call Ray at 563-263-3706.

Handgun database

New York state’s handgun database, which records 209,239 handgun casing markings, was supposed to lead police to criminals who shoot guns in robberies and other crimes,

According to an article in Outdoor Life, so far, the database system has wasted more than $7 million.

When a new or used handgun is purchased in New York or Maryland, the guns are test fired and two fired casing markings are recorded on a database and stored digitally.

Out of the 209,239 stored casings entered into the N.Y. system, there have been 7,124 inquiries and only two hits and neither led to an arrest or prosecution.

Beyond the obvious statistical evidence of the failure of ballistics data to help solve crimes committed with handguns, there are several basic principles that doomed the project from the start.

Basically, criminals don’t usually buy the handguns used in crimes from area gun shops, they steal them. Registering handguns does little to solve crimes as well. Most handguns used in crimes that are registered have usually been reported stolen.


Contact: 563-263-xxxx



.Copyright 2012 The Muscatine Journal.

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I gave him a hand.

Godfather.

What, he couldnt find a lady bear?
:shock: :oops:

:corn:



...just kidding bro!

that was good !

Godfather.

pandora

chadwick wrote:

pandora wrote:

I have been wondering why Ted was not punished as a real poacher...

10,000 and a public service announcement I believe
seems lenient for a real poacher that carries stiffer fines and loss of gun ownership etc.

I know the incident happened in filming not while he was hunting personally,perhaps this incident was not considered his fault entirely.
I know he's not a favorite of the government right now they could have stuck him with a harsher
sentence and been less fair.

Interesting...

so while filming the murder of a bear it is less than important than when murdering personally?

nope just wondering why the leniency got any thoughts on that?

I know he plead guilty but still that was not the normal sentence for a poacher.

Perhaps he is not considered a poacher in the eyes of the law and our government
or in many of the peoples eyes either.

This happened in 2009 why the delay too? Was nothing ever going to be done about the case
and did it just resurface because of his words in the news?
This was my very first post and thought in this thread, seemed fishy how it came down.

josevolution

I don't think the arguing back & forth is productive at all specially when you consider who the person is ......

Hi's the kind os person i have no respect for at all ..........

Godfather you consider him to be a hero :?: really Bro :fp: