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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,067
    The paternos say they have not hired a lawyer for what it's worth
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Some comments about McQueary and the fate of an assistant coach who behaved differently during an athletic scandal at Baylor a few years ago: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/11/09 ... carry.html
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Thorns2010 wrote:
    http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/10/8742718-paterno-contacts-criminal-defense-lawyer-source-tells-nbc-news


    Not a shock that Paterno is lawyering up, but a criminal defense lawyer??

    He's gonna face civil lawsuits:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/colle ... e-1.975457

    I hope they lose everything and have to face each victim from 1998 on and explain why he needed hindsight to tell him he didn't do enough. And his wife should be forced to sit next to him the entire time, so it's perfectly clear the character of the man she married.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Due to multiple threats made against Assistant Coach Mike McQueary, the University has decided it would be in the best interest of all for Assistant Coach McQueary not to be in attendance at Saturday's Nebraska game.

    http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-foo ... 11aam.html
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    norm wrote:
    Due to multiple threats made against Assistant Coach Mike McQueary, the University has decided it would be in the best interest of all for Assistant Coach McQueary not to be in attendance at Saturday's Nebraska game.

    http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-foo ... 11aam.html

    what a joke...threats? that's why he shouldn't be there?! do the board of trustees truly understand what has happened?
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    Who Princess wrote:
    Some comments about McQueary and the fate of an assistant coach who behaved differently during an athletic scandal at Baylor a few years ago: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/11/09 ... carry.html

    Wow this sort of tells you what other thoughts might have been going through McQueary's head other than the shock of seeing what Sandusky was doing to that still unknown boy. Like I need this job...I need this promotion but the boy, the boy he'll be ok.....

    There should be no debate as to which of these assistants, Rouse or McQueary, did the right thing.

    Whatever his motivation was, and whatever type of coach he was, Rouse at least did the right thing by not being another Division I men's basketball or football coach patsy.

    The story of these two assistants paints a clear message about the current condition of big-time college football or men's basketball that appears will have no solution: Protect and serve the best interests of the head coach, even in the face of a criminal and amoral tragedy, and you may just get promoted.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    http://rainn.org/ProudPSUforRAINN
  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
    i have a riddle:

    what kind of people hire criminal defense lawyers?
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Davidtrios wrote:
    i have a riddle:

    what kind of people hire criminal defense lawyers?

    No - he didn't hire one. He TALKED to one. Cliffy wants to make sure you have that correct.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Assistant Coach Mike McQueary ... so did he make a deal to keep his job

    cause I don't get why he isn't on the chopping block
    and have charges against him for not reporting what he saw.

    I mean really if anyone witnessed what he saw would they not go punch the guy out
    or call the police
    unless more are guilty of the same conduct making it somehow acceptable ...
    oh don't let that be

    this can not be to just protect an organization
  • rick1zoo2
    rick1zoo2 between a rock and a dumb place Posts: 12,632
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/10/t ... f-paterno/

    Every time I read this guy I say, "That is what I was trying to say". Spot on.

    key word = "unclear"
  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    Davidtrios wrote:
    i have a riddle:

    what kind of people "talk" to criminal defense lawyers?

    No - he didn't hire one. He TALKED to one. Cliffy wants to make sure you have that correct.


    Fixed for cliffy
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    pandora wrote:
    Assistant Coach Mike McQueary ... so did he make a deal to keep his job

    cause I don't get why he isn't on the chopping block
    and have charges against him for not reporting what he saw.

    I mean really if anyone witnessed what he saw would they not go punch the guy out
    or call the police
    unless more are guilty of the same conduct making it somehow acceptable ...
    oh don't let that be

    this can not be to just protect an organization

    Well he did report what he saw....it's in dispute what exactly he reported to JoePa because under oath he appears to have downplay the sexual rape MM originally saw. I said pages ago it's not so simple for MM to go in and punch out Sandusky because it would be easy for Sandusky to say M Mqueary was the one doing the rape. We don't know how much influence or power Sandusky had over the STILL UNKNOWN child.

    However if it was me I would have in one way or another interceded this tragic crime plain and simple.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    norm wrote:
    http://rainn.org/ProudPSUforRAINN
    So glad to see the focus moving in the right direction. Got an email about this at work this morning and hopefully other campuses will be mobilized to help out. There's going to be a candlelight vigil for the victims tonight...a blue out at the game...looks like a good amount of money being raised for the victims already. :thumbup:
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    81 wrote:
    i would still like to know why we are piling on Joe Pa, when McQueary was the guy that saw the event?????

    why does he still have a job?


    anybody? anybody?
    saw the event? this McQueary guy busted that Sandusky guy in a sexual act w/ a kid?

    (I am 3 pages behind)
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    no more forever."
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    how does someone work w/ a child molester day in and day out for years and not give too shits one way or another? many knew things were shaky w/ this guy (or guys) yet sweeping it under the rug is what they all done. not one swingin john at that school has any morals, decency, integrity or what have you.

    they would all rather keep their high status, high paying positions and make zero wake while some monster (or monsters) fondles and sexually invites himself upon children and from what is going around it appears that this freak show of a dude pimps out these boys to other monsters.

    anyone got any info on this pimping stuff?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    g under p wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Assistant Coach Mike McQueary ... so did he make a deal to keep his job

    cause I don't get why he isn't on the chopping block
    and have charges against him for not reporting what he saw.

    I mean really if anyone witnessed what he saw would they not go punch the guy out
    or call the police
    unless more are guilty of the same conduct making it somehow acceptable ...
    oh don't let that be

    this can not be to just protect an organization

    Well he did report what he saw....it's in dispute what exactly he reported to JoePa because under oath he appears to have downplay the sexual rape MM originally saw. I said pages ago it's not so simple for MM to go in and punch out Sandusky because it would be easy for Sandusky to say M Mqueary was the one doing the rape. We don't know how much influence or power Sandusky had over the STILL UNKNOWN child.

    However if it was me I would have in one way or another interceded this tragic crime plain and simple.

    Peace
    Yes he reported it but its a sexual assault of a child.
    Pedophiles need to be punished, more importantly need to be stopped from future assaults.
    This he should have known and been responsible for doing. So many years passed leaving
    so many more assaults.

    Reporting it to a superior, great and perhaps policy, like a chain of command,
    but not seeing criminal charges brought forth at the time should have caused that witness to take action.
    I simple call to the police or parents ... it could have even been anonymous by nature.
    Like you, I will never understand it, not interceding in one way or another.

    Everyone knows pedophiles do not stop unless they are stopped.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,101
    Last i heard this morning on the sport radio Sandusky took a young boy with him to the Alamo Bowl i belive it was in 99 and molested him at the hotel and told the kid if he didn't cooperate with him he would send him home :shock: this guy deserves to be just put away for life like today , and who would let their young kid go away with some coach to another state withoput tagging along fucking shitty parents :x :x
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Monster Rain
    Monster Rain Posts: 1,415
    I can't buy that excuse because there would have been DNA evidence to prove who did what. He was just scared and ran away.
    g under p wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Assistant Coach Mike McQueary ... so did he make a deal to keep his job

    cause I don't get why he isn't on the chopping block
    and have charges against him for not reporting what he saw.

    I mean really if anyone witnessed what he saw would they not go punch the guy out
    or call the police
    unless more are guilty of the same conduct making it somehow acceptable ...
    oh don't let that be

    this can not be to just protect an organization

    Well he did report what he saw....it's in dispute what exactly he reported to JoePa because under oath he appears to have downplay the sexual rape MM originally saw. I said pages ago it's not so simple for MM to go in and punch out Sandusky because it would be easy for Sandusky to say M Mqueary was the one doing the rape. We don't know how much influence or power Sandusky had over the STILL UNKNOWN child.

    However if it was me I would have in one way or another interceded this tragic crime plain and simple.

    Peace
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    pandora wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    pandora wrote:

    Well he did report what he saw....it's in dispute what exactly he reported to JoePa because under oath he appears to have downplay the sexual rape MM originally saw. I said pages ago it's not so simple for MM to go in and punch out Sandusky because it would be easy for Sandusky to say M Mqueary was the one doing the rape. We don't know how much influence or power Sandusky had over the STILL UNKNOWN child.

    However if it was me I would have in one way or another interceded this tragic crime plain and simple.

    Peace
    Yes he reported it but its a sexual assault of a child.
    Pedophiles need to be punished, more importantly need to be stopped from future assaults.
    This he should have known and been responsible for doing. So many years passed leaving
    so many more assaults.

    Reporting it to a superior, great and perhaps policy, like a chain of command,
    but not seeing criminal charges brought forth at the time should have caused that witness to take action.
    I simple call to the police or parents ... it could have even been anonymous by nature.
    Like you, I will never understand it, not interceding in one way or another.

    Everyone knows pedophiles do not stop unless they are stopped.
    Who Princess wrote:
    Some comments about McQueary and the fate of an assistant coach who behaved differently during an athletic scandal at Baylor a few years ago: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/11/09 ... carry.html

    Wow this sort of tells you what other thoughts might have been going through McQueary's head other than the shock of seeing what Sandusky was doing to that still unknown boy. Like I need this job...I need this promotion but the boy, the boy he'll be ok.....

    There should be no debate as to which of these assistants, Rouse or McQueary, did the right thing.

    Whatever his motivation was, and whatever type of coach he was, Rouse at least did the right thing by not being another Division I men's basketball or football coach patsy.

    The story of these two assistants paints a clear message about the current condition of big-time college football or men's basketball that appears will have no solution: Protect and serve the best interests of the head coach, even in the face of a criminal and amoral tragedy, and you may just get promoted.

    Perhaps above is why McQueary didn't do more especially since he's part of the culture of PSU..being a player, graduate, coach to be seeking promotion and going against a coach his superior Sandusky. It's really messed up I have nightmares at times thinking someone will come in our gated community and take one of my children. I said already I have an app that tells me within a 6 mile radius where ALL the registered sex offenders live we have 3 just outside.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


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