Penn State Scandal

traveljunkie

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_ ... dusky.html

"Former Penn State assistant football Coach Jerry Sandusky could face a maximum prison sentence of 460 years if convicted ... "

And let's hope he's the most popular gal in the joint getting lots of attention every day from the other prisoners for the rest of his pathetic life.

traveljunkie

norm wrote:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16076958/franco-harris-defends-paterno-mcqueary-blasts-trustees?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001

some people really need to shut up

URRRGGGGHHHH!!!!

"I feel that the board made a bad decision in letting Joe Paterno go," Harris told the Tribune-Review's Kevin Gorman. "I'm very disappointed in their decision. I thought they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time. They were saying the football program under Joe was at fault.

AND WHEN DID McQUEARY OR PATERNO OR SCHULTZ OR CURLEY SHOW ANY COURAGE when a 10 year old child really needed it at the time!?

Lord help me.

EdsonNascimento

norm wrote:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16076958/franco-harris-defends-paterno-mcqueary-blasts-trustees?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001

some people really need to shut up

Yeah. I think all of the current and former Penn State players would be wise to keep quiet. They are actually digging a bigger hole for Joe and the program every time they open their mouths. I haven't heard 1 come out and say flat out - Joe's at fault here. He's not the criminal. But, he's clearly at fault, and the program needs to reconsider what it's priorities are.

traveljunkie

The irony here, in my opinion, is that had JoePa gone to the authorities on that Saturday afternoon when McQueary came to his house, he would have been a hero and remained one to this day. And now, the Paterno faithful feel that the media has made Joe the scapegoat (suddenly they don't want Joe being "the face" of PSU!?) thereby tarnishing his hero image.

81

I know i've asked this before and nobody seems to want to answer it because they have their blinders on, but why is joe at th center of the lynch mob and not the guy that saw the shit going down?

Just asking....

traveljunkie

81 wrote:

I know i've asked this before and nobody seems to want to answer it because they have their blinders on, but why is joe at th center of the lynch mob and not the guy that saw the shit going down?

Just asking....

For me, McQueary is just as much to blame here, but evidently he did what he was meant to, which was to report it to his boss who is then required by law to report it to the authorities. His boss reported it to his bosses (hahaa, as if he ever felt they were his superiors) who were then required by law to report it to the authorities. Nothing happened and life went on - as did the abuse. Those who support Joe say "he did what was required of him; he reported it to his superiors" and then ask "why aren't you blaming McQueary?" It's ironic - declaring the first and asking the latter.

IMO, that was Joe's house to protect. Plain and simple, he didn't.

pjhawks

81 wrote:

I know i've asked this before and nobody seems to want to answer it because they have their blinders on, but why is joe at th center of the lynch mob and not the guy that saw the shit going down?

Just asking....

joe was the defacto head of the organization. the shit went down on his watch. end of story. anyone who doesn't think paterno should have been fired (or if he wasn't so arrogant quit himself) is a moron in my opinion.

PureandEasy

81 wrote:

I know i've asked this before and nobody seems to want to answer it because they have their blinders on, but why is joe at th center of the lynch mob and not the guy that saw the shit going down?

Just asking....

I don't understand that either 81, it seems as though even the grand jury is praising McCreary or whatever his name is for doing the right thing and reporting it, and that maybe he was so traumatized by what he saw he can't be held accountable for not acting further

that's the only thing I can figure out

polaris_x

81 wrote:

I know i've asked this before and nobody seems to want to answer it because they have their blinders on, but why is joe at th center of the lynch mob and not the guy that saw the shit going down?

Just asking....

i think joe is at the centre because a) he was the last to go not including mcqueary and b) he is the most public figure in this group ... he is most prominent to the public ... also, there seems to be a focus on the football program because it was at those facilities that some of the abuse took place and that sandusky was given access to ... and joe p was the head of the football program ...

mysticweed

81 wrote:

I know i've asked this before and nobody seems to want to answer it because they have their blinders on, but why is joe at th center of the lynch mob and not the guy that saw the shit going down?

Just asking....

absofuckinglutely
they should both be vilified

and there will be more villains is this fucked up web of lies

Cliffy6745

polaris_x wrote:

81 wrote:

I know i've asked this before and nobody seems to want to answer it because they have their blinders on, but why is joe at th center of the lynch mob and not the guy that saw the shit going down?

Just asking....

i think joe is at the centre because a) he was the last to go not including mcqueary and b) he is the most public figure in this group ... he is most prominent to the public ... also, there seems to be a focus on the football program because it was at those facilities that some of the abuse took place and that sandusky was given access to ... and joe p was the head of the football program ...

Joe was not the last to go. Tim Curley who was responsible for giving him access and then lied is still employed

81

glad to see a few people here have sane replies...

thanks

norm

81 wrote:

glad to see a few people here have sane replies...

thanks

just connecting dots

comebackgirl

Well as I said before, Sandusky should be the name on everyone's lips, but Paterno has been a much bigger focus of all of this, which is pissing me off. Paterno has responsibility in all of this, but no one is as responsible as Sandusky. Paterno is getting more focus than McQueary because of his stature and his celebrity. He was also the supervisor in this situation. While I think McQueary had an obligation to intervene and report, I also have to remind myself that he was a grad assistant. I supervise grad assistants and they are not supposed to report to DYFS or send students to crisis on their own. They're supposed to come to me or one of the other supervisors and we take it from there. As their supervisor, I am responsible for every single thing they do and every single decision they make. We sign a contract saying as much. However, if they saw an act of abuse happening I would absolutely expect them to intervene (as human beings, not just as grad assistants). And if I said I was going to "take care of" a situation and they had reason to believe the abuse was still happening, I would absolutely expect them to take it to the next level.

traveljunkie

81 wrote:

glad to see a few people here have sane replies...

thanks

Which few? :P

polaris_x

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Joe was not the last to go. Tim Curley who was responsible for giving him access and then lied is still employed

good grief ... it's like they still don't get it ...

traveljunkie

comebackgirl wrote:

Well as I said before, Sandusky should be the name on everyone's lips, but Paterno has been a much bigger focus of all of this, which is pissing me off. Paterno has responsibility in all of this, but no one is as responsible as Sandusky. Paterno is getting more focus than McQueary because of his stature and his celebrity. He was also the supervisor in this situation. While I think McQueary had an obligation to intervene and report, I also have to remind myself that he was a grad assistant. I supervise grad assistants and they are not supposed to report to DYFS or send students to crisis on their own. They're supposed to come to me or one of the other supervisors and we take it from there. As their supervisor, I am responsible for every single thing they do and every single decision they make. We sign a contract saying as much. However, if they saw an act of abuse happening I would absolutely expect them to intervene (as human beings, not just as grad assistants). And if I said I was going to "take care of" a situation and they had reason to believe the abuse was still happening, I would absolutely expect them to take it to the next level.

Nicely said.

And I think the outrage towards the ones who failed to report it to the authorities is because of how heinous these crimes against these innocent children were. And now knowing that a stop could have been put to it years earlier. The fact that this monster had NINE more years to prey on and traumatize children is beyond comprehension. And then to think about the suspected abuse being reported in 1998 and nothing happening .... it's just too much to bear.

I guess I'm troubled by the fact that the Paterno faithful are behaving like he's been victimized when in fact they should be grieving for these (now) young men.

xavier mcdaniel

Some guy an ex-player is coming up with a fund to pay for Jerry Sandusky's legal counsel. Now I know we have the right to a trial, but this is really inappropriate.

On another note, this whole thing has me thinking of an old neighbor, who was a big Penn State fan. He had a bumper sticker that read "If God isn't a Penn State fan, then why is the sky blue and white".

chadwick

Wish I Was wrote:

Exactly. He knew what he was doing. He's an absolute monster who carefully planned out how to prey on children. The ones who are at risk. The ones that come from broken homes. The ones, who, when showered with gifts and tickets to PSU and Eagles games and a little extra attention will feel 'hey, this man loves me. I think this is wrong, but he's been so nice to me and given me so much.' That's the kind of evil POS Sandusky is.

"Second Mile - providing children with help and hope.

Many children face adversity even before they understand how to dream. The Second Mile, founded in 1977 in State College, Pennsylvania, is a statewide non-profit organization for children who need additional support and who would benefit from positive human contact. The Second Mile plans, organizes, and offers activities and programs for children - and adults who work with them - to promote self-confidence as well as physical, academic, and personal success."

Sickening.

you're right. that's how these fuckers do things. a cub scouts, boy scouts, and girl scouts event is crawling with these guys.

Danimal

What about that DA that is missing and assumed dead from 2005? Body never found. Laptop found at the bottom of a river without the hard drive.

This story is getting weirder and weirder by the minute.