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OR, what if he IS in jail for natural life, then 10 years later found to be innocent? How about that, Chadwick? no, that's never happened before! :roll:Cosmo wrote:
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oh yes... nuttin like an aggresive homosexual in the clink.catefrances wrote:i found it quite interesting sitting here watching a bunch of guys talking about being raped.
doesn't sound very pleasing to my notion.
see cate, some ppl never learn.
he was a horrible person on the outside and he's still a terrible person while in prison.
with behavior like that he will never be released.
might as well off the bastard.
The problem... what if he's not in prison for Murder 1? What if he's only in prison for aggrevated assault that paralyzed someone and is serving 15 to 25? He can make his 15 to 25 a living Hell for your 25 to life.Gimli 1993
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Cosmo wrote:
...chadwick wrote:
oh yes... nuttin like an aggresive homosexual in the clink.catefrances wrote:i found it quite interesting sitting here watching a bunch of guys talking about being raped.
doesn't sound very pleasing to my notion.
see cate, some ppl never learn.
he was a horrible person on the outside and he's still a terrible person while in prison.
with behavior like that he will never be released.
might as well off the bastard.
The problem... what if he's not in prison for Murder 1? What if he's only in prison for aggrevated assault that paralyzed someone and is serving 15 to 25? He can make his 15 to 25 a living Hell for your 25 to life.
If it's not murder 1, or serial killer. I don't feel that they should lose life.0 -
I wasn't talking about the raping and whathaveyou. I'm talking about the day to day life and living conditions. It's hell. Of COURSE prison guards are going to say the prisoners have it easy. They're the ones that have to deal with them all day for their job. I'm sure they aren't going to say they feel sorry for them. Geez.
As far as your friend is concerned, no one ever said it's hell for every single inmate that ever spent time in one. It's a general comment. What did your buddy do, just out of curiosity?chadwick wrote:
hey dude,Billy Pumpkin wrote:chadwick wrote:when in prison you stand tall and mind your own business.
chances are you will be left alone.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. But I digress...........maybe you should take a field trip and see how fun it would be trying to "mind your own business".
You guys are starting to make me laugh with your blatant ignorance.
speaking of field trips to a prison.
i was born/raised around prison guards.
do you honestly believe i've never stepped inside the fencing of a prison?
one of my best buddy's spent a couple years in one.
i went to see him and wrote letters.
no big fucking deal as long as you shut your face and mind your own affairs.Gimli 1993
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Billy Pumpkin wrote:no bashing, I'm just stating my opinion I think it's funny that you guys are painting prison as some sort of convict utopia. It's laughable.
i never once said it was a convict utopia.
it is indeed hell if you make it so.
it sucks major balls no matter what.
but if a guy minds his own affairs, shuts his fat fucking mouth he can survive.
don't rip off some dude's drugs.
do not snitch.
if you wanna die pretty quick, start snitchin.for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
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Billy Pumpkin wrote:OR, what if he IS in jail for natural life, then 10 years later found to be innocent? How about that, Chadwick? no, that's never happened before! :roll:
i do know this
i am ground down from this conversation... holy shit.
i am sorry some innocent dudes been sent to prison or put to death.Post edited by chadwick onfor poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
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..OnTheEdge wrote:I don't want to sound like a liberal here or anything......but that is the dumbest thing i've ever read.
Nobody said prison is a vacationland, but you still wake up in the morning and have conversation. Watch tv or whatever, eat breakfast, read a good book. Like Chad said. If you stand tall and mind your own business chances are people will leave you alone. If you ever happen to commit murder cosmo (not saying you would) i'll do you a FAVOR and ask the courts to end your life instead of putting you in prison. Thank me later.
No... YOU said it... Don't you remember?:
...OnTheEdge wrote:And prison is not a Hilton, but some are not too far off.
T.V.
Ping Pong
Pool Table
Weight Room
Conjicle visits (<
no i'm not sure how to spell it and don't care)
Letters and visitations from loved ones.
Smoke a good cig.
Play basketball on the court.
etc.etc.etc.etc..
Now, I don't know where Chad's dad worked... but, the places such as San Quentin and Pelican Bay where the death row and lifers live is no place I'd ever want to be. And I believe it is suitable punishment for the guys who have to live in those places.
We are talking about the worst of the worst... not the places Martha Stewart or Bernie Maddoff go. Being on Death Row is the worst place in the prison systems to be.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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Billy Pumpkin wrote:I wasn't talking about the raping and whathaveyou. I'm talking about the day to day life and living conditions. It's hell. Of COURSE prison guards are going to say the prisoners have it easy. They're the ones that have to deal with them all day for their job. I'm sure they aren't going to say they feel sorry for them. Geez.
let's call him Bob...
bob is a rowdy little fucker.
he likes to fight and get in trouble.
he has a heart of gold just a bit stupid and crazy.
he broke into a business and got busted.
he's been in trouble since day one.
so they sent him away for a few years.
i hope and pray it taught him a lesson.
oddly enough, he's still nuts.
i love the fucker like a brother but i don't really run with him.
i know what trouble smells like.
haven't seen him in 5 or 6 years.for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
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Cosmo wrote:
..OnTheEdge wrote:I don't want to sound like a liberal here or anything......but that is the dumbest thing i've ever read.
Nobody said prison is a vacationland, but you still wake up in the morning and have conversation. Watch tv or whatever, eat breakfast, read a good book. Like Chad said. If you stand tall and mind your own business chances are people will leave you alone. If you ever happen to commit murder cosmo (not saying you would) i'll do you a FAVOR and ask the courts to end your life instead of putting you in prison. Thank me later.
No... YOU said it... Don't you remember?:
...OnTheEdge wrote:And prison is not a Hilton, but some are not too far off.
T.V.
Ping Pong
Pool Table
Weight Room
Conjicle visits (<
no i'm not sure how to spell it and don't care)
Letters and visitations from loved ones.
Smoke a good cig.
Play basketball on the court.
etc.etc.etc.etc..
Now, I don't know where Chad's dad worked... but, the places such as San Quentin and Pelican Bay where the death row and lifers live is no place I'd ever want to be. And I believe it is suitable punishment for the guys who have to live in those places.
We are talking about the worst of the worst... not the places Martha Stewart or Bernie Maddoff go. Being on Death Row is the worst place in the prison systems to be.
No I didn't say it....what I was saying is they still get to do basic enjoyable things while locked inside 4 walls. Things you don't get to do while you are dead.....like their victims.0 -
iowa state penitentiary.Cosmo wrote:Now, I don't know where Chad's dad worked... but, the places such as San Quentin and Pelican Bay where the death row and lifers live is no place I'd ever want to be. And I believe it is suitable punishment for the guys who have to live in those places.
We are talking about the worst of the worst... not the places Martha Stewart or Bernie Maddoff go. Being on Death Row is the worst place in the prison systems to be.
a maximum security penal institution.
they used to hang 'em there back in the day.
it is in fact the oldest prison west of the mississippi river.
some real monsters are incarcerated there.
he only worked there for 30 years so im pretty sure the things i been told are bullshit.for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
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Whatever, if a guy rapes, beats, and murders a 5 year old little girl and leaves her in a ditch to rot, I feel the guy should die. And some feel he should go to prison and hope he gets raped. Good night!0
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and oddly enough they have cocaine and heroin and weed and everything else.OnTheEdge wrote:No I didn't say it....what I was saying is they still get to do basic enjoyable things while locked inside 4 walls. Things you don't get to do while you are dead.....like their victims.
plus they make homemade booze all hidden in some closet or behind some wall someplace.
ever stuck a bag of crack up your ass?
i haven't.
weird deal.for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
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im with ya brutha.OnTheEdge wrote:Whatever, if a guy rapes, beats, and murders a 5 year old little girl and leaves her in a ditch to rot, I feel the guy should die. And some feel he should go to prison and hope he gets raped. Good night!
he deserves a .357 magnum upside the skull.
good night.for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/107414 ... mates-lung
Nicolas Cocaign killed his cellmate and ate his lung.
A French prisoner killed his cellmate and devoured his lung after authorities ignored appeals for psychological assistance, he told a court as his trial opened Monday.
Nicolas Cocaign, 39, told judges in the northern city of Rouen that he had had a long history of mental problems even before he sliced open his victim, ripped out his lung and fried it on a makeshift stove in their cell.
"No one was listening to me," the bearded and tattooed detainee told the court. "I made several appeals for help, saying I was a man capable of being dangerous. I took action, and then they took me seriously."
Cocaign is charged with killing cellmate Thierry Baudry in January 2007 by punching and kicking him, stabbing him with a pair of scissors and suffocating him with a rubbish bag.
Prosecutors say he sliced open Baudry's chest with a razor blade, removed a rib and pulled out an organ which he at first believed to be the man's heart, but which in fact was a lung.
He is said to have eaten part of the lung raw and then fried the rest of it with some onions.
Under interrogation before the trial, Cocaign said he had turned cannibal because he wanted to take the victim's soul, but in court today he stressed his troubled background and mental instability.
Born in 1971, he was abandoned by his 21-year-old homeless mother and cared for by the state until he was adopted aged three. From the age of six he was already under the care of a psychologist.
Reports from his childhood suggest he had difficulty telling right from wrong and his mental difficulties worsened when he was allegedly raped, aged 13. After this he developed "violent sexual compulsions".
He was convicted of drug possession at age 22 and was later hospitalised on several occasions with mental illness. He complained to the court that he was not given drug treatment after release, despite asking for it.
"My compulsions were still there, so ..." he said.
Mental health experts are to testify during the course of the trial this week as to whether Cocaign was sufficiently sane to face criminal charge for his acts. A verdict is expected on Thursday.
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catefrances wrote:http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/1074147/french-cannibal-ate-cellmates-lung
Nicolas Cocaign killed his cellmate and ate his lung.
A French prisoner killed his cellmate and devoured his lung after authorities ignored appeals for psychological assistance, he told a court as his trial opened Monday.
Nicolas Cocaign, 39, told judges in the northern city of Rouen that he had had a long history of mental problems even before he sliced open his victim, ripped out his lung and fried it on a makeshift stove in their cell.
"No one was listening to me," the bearded and tattooed detainee told the court. "I made several appeals for help, saying I was a man capable of being dangerous. I took action, and then they took me seriously."
Cocaign is charged with killing cellmate Thierry Baudry in January 2007 by punching and kicking him, stabbing him with a pair of scissors and suffocating him with a rubbish bag.
Prosecutors say he sliced open Baudry's chest with a razor blade, removed a rib and pulled out an organ which he at first believed to be the man's heart, but which in fact was a lung.
He is said to have eaten part of the lung raw and then fried the rest of it with some onions.
Under interrogation before the trial, Cocaign said he had turned cannibal because he wanted to take the victim's soul, but in court today he stressed his troubled background and mental instability.
Born in 1971, he was abandoned by his 21-year-old homeless mother and cared for by the state until he was adopted aged three. From the age of six he was already under the care of a psychologist.
Reports from his childhood suggest he had difficulty telling right from wrong and his mental difficulties worsened when he was allegedly raped, aged 13. After this he developed "violent sexual compulsions".
He was convicted of drug possession at age 22 and was later hospitalised on several occasions with mental illness. He complained to the court that he was not given drug treatment after release, despite asking for it.
"My compulsions were still there, so ..." he said.
Mental health experts are to testify during the course of the trial this week as to whether Cocaign was sufficiently sane to face criminal charge for his acts. A verdict is expected on Thursday.
sad story.
he is not doing society one bit of good.
his life has been shit since day one.
what is the answer, cate?for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
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and what role do wrongful convictions play in your opinion on this?OnTheEdge wrote:If it's not murder 1, or serial killer. I don't feel that they should lose life.Gimli 1993
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chadwick wrote:catefrances wrote:http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/1074147/french-cannibal-ate-cellmates-lung
Nicolas Cocaign killed his cellmate and ate his lung.
A French prisoner killed his cellmate and devoured his lung after authorities ignored appeals for psychological assistance, he told a court as his trial opened Monday.
Nicolas Cocaign, 39, told judges in the northern city of Rouen that he had had a long history of mental problems even before he sliced open his victim, ripped out his lung and fried it on a makeshift stove in their cell.
"No one was listening to me," the bearded and tattooed detainee told the court. "I made several appeals for help, saying I was a man capable of being dangerous. I took action, and then they took me seriously."
Cocaign is charged with killing cellmate Thierry Baudry in January 2007 by punching and kicking him, stabbing him with a pair of scissors and suffocating him with a rubbish bag.
Prosecutors say he sliced open Baudry's chest with a razor blade, removed a rib and pulled out an organ which he at first believed to be the man's heart, but which in fact was a lung.
He is said to have eaten part of the lung raw and then fried the rest of it with some onions.
Under interrogation before the trial, Cocaign said he had turned cannibal because he wanted to take the victim's soul, but in court today he stressed his troubled background and mental instability.
Born in 1971, he was abandoned by his 21-year-old homeless mother and cared for by the state until he was adopted aged three. From the age of six he was already under the care of a psychologist.
Reports from his childhood suggest he had difficulty telling right from wrong and his mental difficulties worsened when he was allegedly raped, aged 13. After this he developed "violent sexual compulsions".
He was convicted of drug possession at age 22 and was later hospitalised on several occasions with mental illness. He complained to the court that he was not given drug treatment after release, despite asking for it.
"My compulsions were still there, so ..." he said.
Mental health experts are to testify during the course of the trial this week as to whether Cocaign was sufficiently sane to face criminal charge for his acts. A verdict is expected on Thursday.
sad story.
he is not doing society one bit of good.
his life has been shit since day one.
what is the answer, cate?
i thought that woulda been obvious chad.
slice him open and eat his lung.... thatll teach him.
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chadwick wrote:sad story.
he is not doing society one bit of good.
his life has been shit since day one.
what is the answer, cate?
I know! I know! Kill him! Kill him!
let me ask you this......do you think it just to execute the criminally insane?Gimli 1993
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whatever makes this world a safer place.Billy Pumpkin wrote:chadwick wrote:sad story.
he is not doing society one bit of good.
his life has been shit since day one.
what is the answer, cate?
I know! I know! Kill him! Kill him!
let me ask you this......do you think it just to execute the criminally insane?
funny thing is, i bet his blood pressure never went up not one single point as he murdered his cell mate
and consumed the dude's lung... raw and fried.for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
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so how about we put some mentally challenged kid that beat his little sister to death thinking he was just playing around but in reality he beat her to death?
I just can't fathom your line of thinking. It's literally what's wrong with this world.chadwick wrote:
whatever makes this world a safer place.Billy Pumpkin wrote:chadwick wrote:sad story.
he is not doing society one bit of good.
his life has been shit since day one.
what is the answer, cate?
I know! I know! Kill him! Kill him!
let me ask you this......do you think it just to execute the criminally insane?
funny thing is, i bet his blood pressure never went up not one single point as he murdered his cell mate
and consumed the dude's lung... raw and fried.Gimli 1993
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Billy Pumpkin wrote:so how about we put some mentally challenged kid that beat his little sister to death thinking he was just playing around but in reality he beat her to death?
I just can't fathom your line of thinking. It's literally what's wrong with this world.
fine, im the bad guy.for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
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