***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

Okay, okay, here's my BIGGEST peeve with the throw-back uni's tonight. How can you use a retro/throw-back uni that was still in existence when your starting pitcher debuted in the league?

Phantom Pain wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Okay, okay, here's my BIGGEST peeve with the throw-back uni's tonight. How can you use a retro/throw-back uni that was still in existence when your starting pitcher debuted in the league?

My thing was cant they fuckin wear the matching batting helmets ??

Looked stupid with the different color red

That too. Big woop, ya wear em once, then autograph em and auction them off for charity.

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Okay, okay, here's my BIGGEST peeve with the throw-back uni's tonight. How can you use a retro/throw-back uni that was still in existence when your starting pitcher debuted in the league?

My thing was cant they fuckin wear the matching batting helmets ??

Looked stupid with the different color red

That too. Big woop, ya wear em once, then autograph em and auction them off for charity.

Exactly

Didn't they wear these Jersey's earlier in the year too ?

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Okay, okay, here's my BIGGEST peeve with the throw-back uni's tonight. How can you use a retro/throw-back uni that was still in existence when your starting pitcher debuted in the league?

My thing was cant they fuckin wear the matching batting helmets ??

Looked stupid with the different color red

That too. Big woop, ya wear em once, then autograph em and auction them off for charity.

not to mention those throwbacks will be available for sale on the team website. If they were grey I would have bought one in the first inning

The Jeagler wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

not to mention those throwbacks will be available for sale on the team website. If they were grey I would have bought one in the first inning

sorry.
i don't think the phils will be turning back the clock to those vaunted '88 - 91 years anytime soon dude...

you don't miss randy ready?

my point was that the only reason they do these throwback nights is so they can sell the jerseys

The Jeagler wrote:

no. i miss don carmen.

and of course that's the reason they do turn back the clock nights. but if you're the phils, what's gonna sell better...the jerseys of the team that won the franchise's first world championship or the randy ready dark ages era jersey? no brainer................plus it wasn't up to the phils. brewers chose the era to throw back to tonight.

the phils can sell both...obviously they will put the current players names and numbers on the throwbacks, not the turds from the 88 team (or whatever year)

we'll put pedro feliz on yours

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phi ... z0o0rzCJ1H
Brown hitting and happy to be in Reading

By Chris Melchiorre



READING - As he does before every at-bat, Domonic Brown kissed his hand and pointed to the sky before stepping into the batter's box in the first inning on Wednesday for the Reading Phillies.

In a motion that seemed just as loose and effortless as his gesture to the heavens, Brown sent the first pitch he saw from the visiting New Hampshire Fisher Cats pitcher, a 90 m.p.h. fastball, sailing over the left-centerfield wall.

It was the 6-foot-5, 205-pound rightfielder's sixth home run in his last 11 games.

These days, Brown has a lot to be thankful for.

As Brown tears up the minor leagues, the blue-chip prospects on both sides of the Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay deals are mostly struggling to gain traction with their new teams.

"I just feel very fortunate [to still be here]," said Brown, whom the Phillies refused to part with despite numerous inquiries. "I talk to Kyle Drabek and Michael Taylor a lot. They're my good friends and I've been with them ever since rookie ball. So it's been hard for them, but they're making the adjustments. I'm just glad I'm here."

Drabek, a righthanded pitcher, and Taylor, an outfielder, were both highly regarded Phils prospects who were traded to Toronto for Halladay. Taylor was subsequently dealt to Oakland.

For the first four innings of Wednesday's game, Brown watched his teammate, starting pitcher Phillipe Aumont, struggle on his way to an early exit. Aumont, a righthander, is the most highly publicized player the Phillies receved in exchange for Lee in the deal that sent the ace from Philadelphia to Seattle.

After getting off to a solid start this season, Aumont - he came to Philadelphia with centerfielder Tyson Gillies and pitcher J.C. Ramirez - entered that game after having allowed 10 earned runs in his previous two starts, which amounted to just five innings of work.

On Wednesday, Aumont lasted four innings, allowing four earned runs, all in the second inning.

"[He] got a little experience in double A last year but now he's still adjusting in a different level and a different role," Reading manager Steve Roadcap said of Aumont, who worked as a reliever last year. "He's working on some things; he's struggled. But today was an improvement. If you look beyond the numbers, he was much, much better."

Sitting in the opposing dugout on Wednesday was Drabek, now with the Blue Jays' New Hampshire double-A farm club. Drabek, once considered the future ace of the Phillies' rotation, was traded along with Taylor and catcher Travis d'Arnaud for Halladay in the offseason.

Drabek also got off to a slow start with his new team, but has bounced back of late and is carrying a 3.60 ERA with opponents hitting just .235 against him.

"You just have to be able to go out there and pitch in as many games as you can," Drabek said. "The more experience you get, the more comfortable you get. So definitely, where I am right now, I feel a lot more comfortable than I did at the beginning of the year."

The 21-year-old d'Arnaud is sporting a .328 batting average but is still catching in high single A.

Taylor is batting a meager .232 in triple A after batting a combined .320 with double-A Reading and triple-A Lehigh Valley last season.

Gillies, the outfield prospect the Phillies got as part of the Lee trade, can sympathize with Taylor.

The 21-year-old Gillies was placed on the seven-day disabled list Wednesday with a left hamstring strain.

It was an exclamation point on what has been a tough season for Gillies to this point.

Gillies started the season 4 for 36 and was batting .247 when he was placed on the disabled list.

More alarming is that the centerfielder has only one stolen base in two attempts. Last year, Gillies, known as a threat on the base paths, swiped 44 bags in 63 attempts in high single A for the Mariners.

"Everyone goes through some growing pains," said Roadcap, after explaining that Gillies' strained hamstring is a minor and recent issue that hasn't been bothering him all season. "He's a guy that knows one speed, and that's 100 percent at all times. And it's hard for him to back off. So we're going to make sure that he's fully recovered before he gets back."

So, as other promising players, who have either joined or left the Phillies' farm system, scramble to adjust to new coaches, new teammates, new roles, new stadiums and new levels of play for new organizations, Brown is happy to stay where he is until receiving the imminent call to triple A.

For right now, even when he strikes out - which he did Wednesday on a 17-pitch at-bat while fouling off 11 breaking balls - Brown still shows promise.

"They told me when I got in the dugout that it was 17 pitches," Brown said. "I'm just trying to keep it going."

The Fixer wrote:

This dude Scott Mathieson will be up at some point this year. Hopefully before his arm falls off. He's already had tommy john surgery twice. I love relievers that throw gas...


After 13 appearances covering 16 2/3 IP, Mathieson has permitted one run and racked up five saves. His ERA is 0.54. He has struck out 18 and his fastball has been sitting in the 96-98 mph range.

yeah...i heard something about the phils wanting him to work on keeping his slider down before calling him up. that's like his only issue. i'm pretty psyched to see what he can do...if he can stay healthy.

The Fixer wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

This dude Scott Mathieson will be up at some point this year. Hopefully before his arm falls off. He's already had tommy john surgery twice. I love relievers that throw gas...


After 13 appearances covering 16 2/3 IP, Mathieson has permitted one run and racked up five saves. His ERA is 0.54. He has struck out 18 and his fastball has been sitting in the 96-98 mph range.

yeah...i heard something about the phils wanting him to work on keeping his slider down before calling him up. that's like his only issue. i'm pretty psyched to see what he can do...if he can stay healthy.

I also read they want him to be able to pitch back-to-back games, which I don't think he's done yet.

Mark Grace is worse than chris wheeler or tim mccarver. amazing

yeah...and when t-mac is the play by play guy, it just seems like fox mailed it in. doesn't seem like a real nationally televised game.

speaking of announcers, the phils really have to step up and promote franske and la to the tv booth. those two have such great chemistry. i'm reading the Harry the K book right now--which is a fucking great read. i highly recommend it. listening to franske and la, it just seems like they have that harry and whitey thing going on. you can tell they generally like each other and back and forth between them is genuine. tmac tries too hard. and wheels is....wheels. sarge is just a doofus. i'm actually okay with him as a 3rd wheel for a couple innings. he is comic relief.

The Jeagler wrote:

hamels on the mound this evening.....i need 7 strong outta you cole! let's have at it sweeeeeeeeeep...

You guys are going to ber busy changing channels tonight.