***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996

    solat....the philly a's? you going back to 1928 on us?! best team in the modern philly sports era then assuming they accomplish what we all think/hope they will accomplish in the next few years. they could even surplant that a's pre ww2 team when it's all said and done

    Yeah, I went that far but they're considered one of the top 5 teams in the history of the sport and since baseball is based on history. ;)

    Great article about them here:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    Solat13 wrote:

    Yeah, I went that far but they're considered one of the top 5 teams in the history of the sport and since baseball is based on history. ;)

    Great article about them here:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm
    my only qualm with them, in addition to it being 80 years ago, is that the team belongs to oakland now...
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  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Is Ryan Howard really being compared to Ted Williams in this thread, and someone's making that case that when all is said and done, Howard may be better?

    Really?

    Dear lord.
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Jimed...he did win more titles and hit 40+ homers 4 straight years so I mean isn't it obvious. ;)
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    pjhawks wrote:

    never saw Ted Williams play so can't say for sure. who knows by the time Howard is done he just may be.

    Fucking speechless.
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,985
    jimed14 wrote:

    Fucking speechless.

    Jimed, I used Williams as an example to show how fucking absurd using RBI's and HR's are to evaluate a player.
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    cliffy, it ain't you.
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,985
    jimed14 wrote:
    cliffy, it ain't you.

    gotcha, didnt think so but didnt want you thinking I was trying to compare them by using his name at all.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    :roll:
    just when you think it's over, it starts back up again :roll: ....



    how bout that good doctor though!? through 7, 8 hits, and 2 earned runs thus far.

    howard, werth, raul and chooooch all with at least 2 hits....good to see raul get that average up.

    GO PHILS :thumbup: :thumbup:
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    :roll:
    just when you think it's over, it starts back up again :roll: ....



    how bout that good doctor though!? through 7, 8 hits, and 2 earned runs thus far.

    howard, werth, raul and chooooch all with at least 2 hits....good to see raul get that average up.

    GO PHILS :thumbup: :thumbup:

    Seems like DOC doesn't have a problem pitching at the Bank like most other pitchers complain about the ball flying out on pop flies

    J-Werth with a nice game

    What do you think of him getting Holliday type money ? They talked about it during the game the other day
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569

    Seems like DOC doesn't have a problem pitching at the Bank like most other pitchers complain about the ball flying out on pop flies

    J-Werth with a nice game

    What do you think of him getting Holliday type money ? They talked about it during the game the other day

    i'm all for it if there is anyway to make that happen. 3-4-5 in our lineup is absolutely ridiculous. i would love to see it continue throughout the next half decade...
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,985
    not sure if any of you read Deadspin and a few of you were talking about this earlier this week here so I figured i would post this....

    http://deadspin.com/5531968/dear-philad ... k-yoselves
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    not sure if any of you read Deadspin and a few of you were talking about this earlier this week here so I figured i would post this....

    http://deadspin.com/5531968/dear-philad ... k-yoselves

    sounds like what I've been saying. I swear I didn't write that article. The dig on NE Philly made me laugh out loud...awesome
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    not sure if any of you read Deadspin and a few of you were talking about this earlier this week here so I figured i would post this....

    http://deadspin.com/5531968/dear-philad ... k-yoselves

    this guy missed the point.

    i love the newfound arrogance and obnoixiousness of phils fans these days. ever since '08 i've enjoyed that people on this board have grown tired of us :mrgreen: .

    but the idiots running onto the field, puking on people, and not paying attention to the game are a completely different story. those people aren't real fans. their MORONS.

    but when you win, you garner new fans. as long as they're not idiots, i say hop on board. let's go for a ride. maybe a title or two ;)

    GO PHILS!
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Here Comes The Power
    Domonic Brown, OF, Philadelphia Phillies (Double-A Reading)
    Wednesday's stats: 2-for-4, 2B, HR (4), 2 R, RBI
    Unquestionably the top prospect in the Phillies' system, the 6-foot-5, 200-pound Brown was long thought by scouts to be close to a power surge. It hadn't yet happened on a consistent basis; Brown spent the first month of the year doing his usual act. He hit for average, doubles, and ran well, but so far in May, the power has arrived. He's hit three home runs in his last five games and is up to a whopping .358/.416/.701 for Reading. The Phillies will likely find a way to play him every day in 2011.
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    The thing I hear about Brown that makes him stand out is his plate patience.

    I saw him work an 0-2 count to a 3-2 count and then eventually hit a 450 foot bomb in spring training off Justin Verlander. I was impressed.
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    jimed14 wrote:
    The thing I hear about Brown that makes him stand out is his plate patience.

    I saw him work an 0-2 count to a 3-2 count and then eventually hit a 450 foot bomb in spring training off Justin Verlander. I was impressed.

    yeah, pretty sure he had 2 homers in that spring game. everything I've read has said that his bat is just about big league ready...his defense is what the phils wanted him to focus on this year in the minors (especially his routes to the ball).

    like the article says, his power will come as he fills out...that's why they got rid of michael taylor, his swing projects to more of a gap hitter, whereas brown could become a legit power threat.

    it's probably wishful thinking, but I'd love to see amaro deal ibanez and re-sign werth this offseason
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    The Fixer wrote:

    yeah, pretty sure he had 2 homers in that spring game. everything I've read has said that his bat is just about big league ready...his defense is what the phils wanted him to focus on this year in the minors (especially his routes to the ball).

    like the article says, his power will come as he fills out...that's why they got rid of michael taylor, his swing projects to more of a gap hitter, whereas brown could become a legit power threat.

    it's probably wishful thinking, but I'd love to see amaro deal ibanez and re-sign werth this offseason


    there ya go :thumbup: :thumbup: that ibanez 3 year deal is garbage.

    gonna find ourselves in a tough spot if werth walks. what do you think they'll do? i can't imagine them just putting brown in right next year with rauul in left, and having virtually no right handed pop in the lineup.

    i can't wait to see what this kid can do on the major league level. gonna try and see him at reading pretty soon...
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    there ya go :thumbup: :thumbup: that ibanez 3 year deal is garbage.

    gonna find ourselves in a tough spot if werth walks. what do you think they'll do? i can't imagine them just putting brown in right next year with rauul in left, and having virtually no right handed pop in the lineup.

    i can't wait to see what this kid can do on the major league level. gonna try and see him at reading pretty soon...

    trade howard. oh wait, no other team wants that contract

    I have no clue what they're gonna do. They will need a RH stick.

    for the record I think francisco will probably platoon with brown in one OF spot next year.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,383
    I LOVE this...

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    And the guy who wrote this is my new hero.... EDIT: Woops. I mean that Deadspin article. AJ Daulerio apparently.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    The Fixer wrote:

    trade howard. ar.
    smart move! :lol::lol:
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    I think the only way Werth stays if we end up trading Victorino,they need to free up money somewhere.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Blowing Them Away
    Trevor May, RHP, Philadelphia Phillies
    Thursday's stats: 6 IP, 6 H, 1 R (0 ER), 1 BB, 10 K

    A fourth-round pick in 2008 out of a Washington high school, May has some of the better stuff in the Phillies' system, but he's a long way from harnessing it. Inconsistent -- and, at times, sloppy -- mechanics lead to widely varying velocity, break and command. So far in the Florida State League, the 20-year-old has been putting it all together, sitting consistently in the low 90s while touching 94 mph, showcasing two much-improved secondary pitches in his curveball and change, all while striking out 39 in just 24 innings. He's walked 12 and hit a pair of batters, so the control is still shaky, but he has the potential for a major step forward.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    I think the only way Werth stays if we end up trading Victorino,they need to free up money somewhere.

    they won't have anyone to play CF if they trade victorino. and he just signed an extension. he's not going anywhwere
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    The Fixer wrote:

    they won't have anyone to play CF if they trade victorino. and he just signed an extension. he's not going anywhwere

    werth can play center field.

    but i doubt this scenario would ever play out.
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078

    werth can play center field.

    but i doubt this scenario would ever play out.
    Exactly werth would move to cf,I doubt it would happen myself but that's about the only way he stays imo. Me personally I'd pay him and move on but they have a bottom line and it looks like theere gonna stick to it.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837

    werth can play center field.

    no he can't
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    The Fixer wrote:
    oh yes he can.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6423
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    they won't have anyone to play CF if they trade victorino. and he just signed an extension. he's not going anywhwere[/quote]

    werth can play center field.

    [/quote]

    no he can't[/quote]
    Lol let me guess some dumb new age stats told u that.what are they called jibberishmatics :)
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,985
    Lol let me guess some dumb new age stats told u that.what are they called jibberishmatics :)

    There are not many great defensive stats, UZR is very flawed. The red sox claim they have one but are also leading the league in errors this year (although errors only count balls you get to). Dont be ignorant to stats, you sound like a fool. At least Jeagler admits there are some good thigns about them. Like i said, there was a time OBP was an unheard of stat. OPS is talked about on many many broadcasts these days.
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