***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    Earlier this week MLB Network reported a lee to minnesota trade was completed. I still think he goes to the twins. All of this Lee to Yanks stuff is coming from the Post...so I'm skeptical to say the least


    espn 1050 this am as well

    espn is just a means for sherman's story to gain traction. Olney has reported that no deal has been made.

    I don't see the yanks making this move...cashman is better than that



    OLNEY just said it was close last night ...not done but close

    time will tell
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,497
    The Fixer wrote:

    espn is just a means for sherman's story to gain traction. Olney has reported that no deal has been made.

    I don't see the yanks making this move...cashman is better than that



    OLNEY just said it was close last night ...not done but close

    time will tell
    isn't there a lakers thread you should be posting in? beat it! :lol:
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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057





    OLNEY just said it was close last night ...not done but close

    time will tell
    isn't there a lakers thread you should be posting in? beat it! :lol:


    finally we have some some competition from the east


    p.s the evil empire wants you to personally thank ruben for cliff :mrgreen:
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,497


    finally we have some some competition from the east


    p.s the evil empire wants you to personally thank ruben for cliff :mrgreen:

    huh?

    and, dude, there is no "we" when referring to a team that plays 3,000 miles from where you live. you're as big a fraud as metsfan...and that is hard to believe....
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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057


    finally we have some some competition from the east


    p.s the evil empire wants you to personally thank ruben for cliff :mrgreen:

    huh?

    and, dude, there is no "we" when referring to a team that plays 3,000 miles from where you live. you're as big a fraud as metsfan...and that is hard to believe....


    dude give this fraud thing up already ok the lakers finally have some competition


    and the yankees fans want you to personally thank the gm of the phillies for getting them cliff lee


    p.s. don't compare me to that dude...i travel to see the lakers in the finals
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,497


    finally we have some some competition from the east


    p.s the evil empire wants you to personally thank ruben for cliff :mrgreen:

    huh?

    and, dude, there is no "we" when referring to a team that plays 3,000 miles from where you live. you're as big a fraud as metsfan...and that is hard to believe....


    dude give this fraud thing up already ok the lakers finally have some competition


    and the yankees fans want you to personally thank the gm of the phillies for getting them cliff lee


    p.s. don't compare me to that dude...i travel to see the lakers in the finals

    you rooting for the lakers is the same exact thing as metsfan rooting for the cowboys. there is no difference what so ever. you both abandoned new york for a winner. you're both frauds.
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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057

    huh?

    and, dude, there is no "we" when referring to a team that plays 3,000 miles from where you live. you're as big a fraud as metsfan...and that is hard to believe....


    dude give this fraud thing up already ok the lakers finally have some competition


    and the yankees fans want you to personally thank the gm of the phillies for getting them cliff lee


    p.s. don't compare me to that dude...i travel to see the lakers in the finals

    you rooting for the lakers is the same exact thing as metsfan rooting for the cowboys. there is no difference what so ever. you both abandoned new york for a winner. you're both frauds.


    you make it like i never watched the lakers suck lol



    how is this werth dude ? should i get his jersey
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,497

    you rooting for the lakers is the same exact thing as metsfan rooting for the cowboys. there is no difference what so ever. you both abandoned new york for a winner. you're both frauds.


    you make it like i never watched the lakers suck lol



    how is this werth dude ? should i get his jersey

    well metsfan certainly watched the cowboys suck too over the years....so.....there ya go

    and if you're not certain who jayson werth is....i'd stick with the nba threads :thumbup:
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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057




    you make it like i never watched the lakers suck lol



    how is this werth dude ? should i get his jersey

    well metsfan certainly watched the cowboys suck too over the years....so.....there ya go

    and if you're not certain who jayson werth is....i'd stick with the nba threads :thumbup:

    i meant is he cool enough to get a jersey ? i know who he is but is he cool enough

    phantom seems to think so with his avatar
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    how is this werth dude ? should i get his jersey

    I have one for sale :x

    J-Dubb what were you thinking

    I still say he has his weed stashed in his beard
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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    how is this werth dude ? should i get his jersey

    I have one for sale :x

    J-Dubb what were you thinking

    I still say he has his weed stashed in his beard


    well that weed will be out in the open when he shaves very soon :mrgreen:
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    I am from long island the only teams I root for besides the cowboys are all fron long island

    The giants haven't played in NY since 1975 and never ever once played on long island

    The jets haven't played on long island since 1984 which is a year before I was born

    So explain to me how am I a fraud when I've never ever had a football team play on long island

    Again is it the fact that I'm a cowboys fan that bothers you so much jiggy. Would you get your boyshorts in a bunch if I was a lions or panthers fan. I love it so much that I can get under a few people skins just by rooting for a football team. Its like shooting fish in a bucket.

    Hey NYPJ1(jason) how did scalping world cup tickets work out for ya. Did you make a nice chunk of change off of them. I bet that money went to your stoogie habit.


    Its amazing how I can fall off the face of the earth on this board and my name still gets mentioned :thumbup: :clap::clap::clap::clap:




    GO COWBOYS :mrgreen:
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    how is this werth dude ? should i get his jersey

    I still say he has his weed stashed in his beard

    now THAT would make him cool.

    werth is cool at his current salary. Once he gets 12-15 mill per year he won't be cool

    come on amaro, put the checkbook away...don't do it

    ken rosenthal reported that a vazquez/werth swap has a 50-1 chance of happening. dang
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    If the Phils trade Werth and get back Vasquez and Lopez from Seattle which is what a friend told me is the latest rumor he heard, you might as well start the 2011 thread.

    Lopez is for sabermetrics an awful player who has 6 more walks in 6 and 1/2 years than A Gon had last year and a sub .300 on base for his career.

    Any anytime you get a chance to land a career 149-146 pitcher who makes more than Cliff Lee, you defintiely have to jump on it. Especially since the Yanks gave up Melky Cabrera and 2 minor leaguers for him.

    :roll:
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Posts: 9,221
    Lopez is not a surprise. I saw a Phillies scout at one of the recent Yankee-Mariner games and once Utley went down, it was fairly obvious who he was scouting. This is his plate discipline numbers http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?pl ... discipline which back up Joe's post.
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,497
    metsfan wrote:

    Its amazing how I can fall off the face of the earth on this board and my name still gets mentioned

    :

    your name is just synonomous with fraudulent. i know it's not the best way to be remembered...but sorry dude. :lol:
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    Solat13 wrote:

    Any anytime you get a chance to land a career 149-146 pitcher who makes more than Cliff Lee, you defintiely have to jump on it. Especially since the Yanks gave up Melky Cabrera and 2 minor leaguers for him.

    :roll:
    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,710
    Fixer, if the Yankees don't project montero to be a catche which by making this deal they obviously don't, I don't have a problem with it. They are clearly going to sign him long term. If montero is not a catcher they don't had room for him with Tex and their aging players at dh.

    Plus the window is closing for jeter and them and it gives them the best chance to win some more. This is very different from Santana trade.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,497
    so what time is the public hanging of ruben amaro tonight? 6:50? right before the national anthem?
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    so what time is the public hanging of ruben amaro tonight? 6:50? right before the national anthem?

    Maybe they can have a fireworks "accident" tonight. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    metsfan wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:

    Any anytime you get a chance to land a career 149-146 pitcher who makes more than Cliff Lee, you defintiely have to jump on it. Especially since the Yanks gave up Melky Cabrera and 2 minor leaguers for him.

    :roll:
    :lol::lol::lol::lol:



    why you laughing you root for the phils :roll: :lol:

    thats the biggest joke i've ever heard :lol:

    maybe i'll root for the red sox in the playoffs
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Solat13 wrote:
    If the Phils trade Werth and get back Vasquez and Lopez from Seattle which is what a friend told me is the latest rumor he heard, you might as well start the 2011 thread.

    Lopez is for sabermetrics an awful player who has 6 more walks in 6 and 1/2 years than A Gon had last year and a sub .300 on base for his career.

    Any anytime you get a chance to land a career 149-146 pitcher who makes more than Cliff Lee, you defintiely have to jump on it. Especially since the Yanks gave up Melky Cabrera and 2 minor leaguers for him.

    :roll:

    pitcher records are meaningless. vazquez is a horse. I'd trade him for werth in a heartbeat
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    The Fixer wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    If the Phils trade Werth and get back Vasquez and Lopez from Seattle which is what a friend told me is the latest rumor he heard, you might as well start the 2011 thread.

    Lopez is for sabermetrics an awful player who has 6 more walks in 6 and 1/2 years than A Gon had last year and a sub .300 on base for his career.

    Any anytime you get a chance to land a career 149-146 pitcher who makes more than Cliff Lee, you defintiely have to jump on it. Especially since the Yanks gave up Melky Cabrera and 2 minor leaguers for him.

    :roll:

    pitcher records are meaningless. vazquez is a horse. I'd trade him for werth in a heartbeat



    done
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    If the Phils trade Werth and get back Vasquez and Lopez from Seattle which is what a friend told me is the latest rumor he heard, you might as well start the 2011 thread.

    Lopez is for sabermetrics an awful player who has 6 more walks in 6 and 1/2 years than A Gon had last year and a sub .300 on base for his career.

    Any anytime you get a chance to land a career 149-146 pitcher who makes more than Cliff Lee, you defintiely have to jump on it. Especially since the Yanks gave up Melky Cabrera and 2 minor leaguers for him.

    :roll:

    pitcher records are meaningless. vazquez is a horse. I'd trade him for werth in a heartbeat

    done

    nah, unfortunately the werth/vazquez thing is dead
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    The Fixer wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    If the Phils trade Werth and get back Vasquez and Lopez from Seattle which is what a friend told me is the latest rumor he heard, you might as well start the 2011 thread.

    Lopez is for sabermetrics an awful player who has 6 more walks in 6 and 1/2 years than A Gon had last year and a sub .300 on base for his career.

    Any anytime you get a chance to land a career 149-146 pitcher who makes more than Cliff Lee, you defintiely have to jump on it. Especially since the Yanks gave up Melky Cabrera and 2 minor leaguers for him.

    :roll:

    pitcher records are meaningless. vazquez is a horse. I'd trade him for werth in a heartbeat

    A horse with a 4.53 ERA since 2004 minus his one year in cavernous Turner Field.

    A nice robust 10.34 era in the post season too and having his worst strikeout to walk season in his career.

    And a fly ball pitcher is always good for a launching pad of a stadium.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    pitcher records are meaningless. vazquez is a horse. I'd trade him for werth in a heartbeat

    done

    nah, unfortunately the werth/vazquez thing is dead

    That's a relief
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,497
    Solat13 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    If the Phils trade Werth and get back Vasquez and Lopez from Seattle which is what a friend told me is the latest rumor he heard, you might as well start the 2011 thread.

    Lopez is for sabermetrics an awful player who has 6 more walks in 6 and 1/2 years than A Gon had last year and a sub .300 on base for his career.

    Any anytime you get a chance to land a career 149-146 pitcher who makes more than Cliff Lee, you defintiely have to jump on it. Especially since the Yanks gave up Melky Cabrera and 2 minor leaguers for him.

    :roll:

    pitcher records are meaningless. vazquez is a horse. I'd trade him for werth in a heartbeat

    A horse with a 4.53 ERA since 2004 minus his one year in cavernous Turner Field.

    A nice robust 10.34 era in the post season too and having his worst strikeout to walk season in his career.

    And a fly ball pitcher is always good for a launching pad of a stadium.

    yeah i am a huge vasquez fan either. he'd obviously be an upgrade in the middle of our rotation though.

    hey at least lee didn't go to the mets...
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Solat13 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    If the Phils trade Werth and get back Vasquez and Lopez from Seattle which is what a friend told me is the latest rumor he heard, you might as well start the 2011 thread.

    Lopez is for sabermetrics an awful player who has 6 more walks in 6 and 1/2 years than A Gon had last year and a sub .300 on base for his career.

    Any anytime you get a chance to land a career 149-146 pitcher who makes more than Cliff Lee, you defintiely have to jump on it. Especially since the Yanks gave up Melky Cabrera and 2 minor leaguers for him.

    :roll:

    pitcher records are meaningless. vazquez is a horse. I'd trade him for werth in a heartbeat

    A horse with a 4.53 ERA since 2004 minus his one year in cavernous Turner Field.

    A nice robust 10.34 era in the post season too and having his worst strikeout to walk season in his career.

    And a fly ball pitcher is always good for a launching pad of a stadium.

    most of those numbers are in the AL. experts say a shift from the AL to the NL shaves .5 - 1 run off of a pitchers ERA.

    which would you rather have in a playoff series...

    option A
    Halladay, Hamels, Blanton?, Moyer??

    option B
    Halladay, Vazquez, Hamels, Blanton?

    EDIT: vazquez was OK in the NL east last year
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,497
    someone here said he heard swisher would be thrown into the werth/vasquez deal if it ever happens. is that even remotely possible? not sure where he heard it...
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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    someone here said he heard swisher would be thrown into the werth/vasquez deal if it ever happens. is that even remotely possible? not sure where he heard it...


    forget it swish isn't going anywhere

    besides he a douche who wears ed hardy :lol:
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