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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    pjhawks wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    We will trade prospects to toronto they will send us halladay then we will get prospects from seattle for lee. Thats what my friend said he heard.

    Then why would Seatlle even be included? Toronto has to be getting something from Seattle otherwise it would just be two seperate trades with the Phillies restocking their farm.

    most likely it will be a combo of prospects from Seattle and the Phillies to Toronto

    It has to be

    3:56pm: Morosi tweets that pitcher Phillippe Aumont of the Mariners and outfielder Michael Taylor of the Phillies are among the players heading to Toronto in the trade.
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Dominic brown is what there saying now.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Dominic brown is what there saying now.

    I guess until all the smoke clears we wont know for sure

    I dont think the current trade as it stands makes us better then the Yanks
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  • The Champ
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    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Champ wrote:
    As a Met fan, I'm not totally crushed by this news..I mean, you really can't pitch any better than Lee did for you down the stretch..He was lights out in big spots..

    I feel the same way as a Phillies fan :)

    Lee was crazy in the playoffs !!

    Agreed, not certain that Halladay will deliver in big spots ;) ..
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    The Champ wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Champ wrote:
    As a Met fan, I'm not totally crushed by this news..I mean, you really can't pitch any better than Lee did for you down the stretch..He was lights out in big spots..

    I feel the same way as a Phillies fan :)

    Lee was crazy in the playoffs !!

    Agreed, not certain that Halladay will deliver in big spots ;) ..
    least he's better than the great john maine ;)
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  • The Champ
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    metsfan wrote:
    least he's better than the great john maine ;)

    And big Pelf can out lick any motherfucker..

    Don't see what we have to worry about at all:

    Perez
    Maine
    Pelfrey
    Niese

    We are good to go ;) ..
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,930
    The Champ wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    least he's better than the great john maine ;)

    And big Pelf can out lick any motherfucker..

    Don't see what we have to worry about at all:

    Perez
    Maine
    Pelfrey
    Niese

    We are good to go ;) ..

    yes I'd say you will beat out the Nats again next year - that's about all though.

    3 division champs and counting
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Champ wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    least he's better than the great john maine ;)

    And big Pelf can out lick any motherfucker..

    Don't see what we have to worry about at all:

    Perez
    Maine
    Pelfrey
    Niese

    We are good to go ;) ..

    yes I'd say you will beat out the Nats again next year - that's about all though.

    3 division champs and counting

    I don't know, excluding Johan, their starting pitching is considerably better than the Met rotation..
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  • Phantom Pain
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns

    New Twist !

    Roy Halladay in Philadelphia for a physical


    PHILADELPHIA (AP)—A person with knowledge of the situation says Toronto pitcher Roy Halladay(notes) is in Philadelphia to take a physical for the Phillies, a necessary step before the teams finalize a trade.

    The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the teams had not made any announcement.

    Philadelphia could give up pitchers J.A. Happ(notes), Joe Blanton(notes) and outfielder Dominic Brown as part of a deal, the person said.
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  • The Juggler
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    Phantom Pain wrote:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AqMXToHxJUMv5IH5KLpAoUw5nYcB?slug=ap-phillies-bluejays-halladay&prov=ap&type=lgns

    New Twist !

    Roy Halladay in Philadelphia for a physical


    PHILADELPHIA (AP)—A person with knowledge of the situation says Toronto pitcher Roy Halladay(notes) is in Philadelphia to take a physical for the Phillies, a necessary step before the teams finalize a trade.

    The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the teams had not made any announcement.

    Philadelphia could give up pitchers J.A. Happ(notes), Joe Blanton(notes) and outfielder Dominic Brown as part of a deal, the person said.

    no way...whoever wrote that article is about 10 hours late to the party. i'd love for that to be true though.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    philly.com is saying happ, blanton and halladay all took physicals today and lee's agent has not heard from the phils....hmmmm

    please ruben....please find a way to get lee without parting ways with young clifford just yet....

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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,539
    The Jeagler wrote:
    philly.com is saying happ, blanton and halladay all took physicals today and lee's agent has not heard from the phils....hmmmm

    please ruben....please find a way to get lee without parting ways with young clifford just yet....

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phi ... sical.html

    From the time I get home from work till now shit has been all over the place. I don't know what the fuck to think right now. I would think Heyman at SI and MLB Net would have shit together but who knows....

    And it's Clifton - don't soil the man's namesake like that.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    my buddy just heard an update on 610 that saidthe phils would rather part with taylor than brown and if they include happa nd brown they would not need a 3rd team involved, thus not having to part ways with lee.


    C'MON RUBEN. YOU GOT THE POTENTIAL FOR A LEGENDARY ROTATION. FUCK 4 YEARS FROM NOW. LETS TAKE BACK OUR CROWN NEXT YEAR GOD DAMN IT!!! :mrgreen:
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    heyman on si.com says the original deal involving cliff lee is a done deal.

    if the below from jayson stark is true though, kyle drabek better turn out to be the next tom seaver. jesus h christ...you blow a shot at one of the best rotations in recent history for a prospect who may or may not pan out?!?!:

    6:18pm: An interesting update to Jayson Stark's article. Prior to turning to the M's, the Phillies first attempted to complete a two-team deal with Toronto alone for Halladay. However, when Philly refused to include their top pitching prospect Kyle Drabek - as they did last summer - they got Seattle involved
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,539
    EDIT - I copy and pasted this from my FB post. Gotta figure this out...

    Okay, I think I got it. And mind you, we still don't know the exact details of this trade but this is the last package I heard about...

    Think about it this way - Phils never wanted to trade the farm for Halladay. They didn't give up anything for Lee. Lee makes 9 mil this coming year then admittedly goes onto say that he would like to test the market and get CC and Santana money(23 mil/year) following 2010. If this were the case this would make the chance of locking up Lee that much more difficult. So, the Phils got creative and made a 3 way deal to get Doc for prospects Taylor and D'Arnauld. Essentially, they got Halladay for none of the cream of the crop while going to the World Series in the process, AND locking Docup long term. Amaro's a genius. Personally, I would've liked to have seen them take a chance of Doc, Lee, and Hamels for one year and then offer Lee arbitration after 2010 , which he will expectedly decline, thereby compensating the Phils with two 1st round draft picks. But that would have cost too much for the team long term as well have made it difficult with salary to sign anyone else.

    I whole-heartedly back this move. Would I have liked Doc, Lee, Hamels? Of course, but this was an absolutlely sound move to make.
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,440
    looks like it's closing in on being completed - http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4742072
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,539
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    looks like it's closing in on being completed - http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4742072

    So some French frog by the name of Aumont will become my new Drabek? I guess that's alright.
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,440
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    looks like it's closing in on being completed - http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4742072

    So some French frog by the name of Aumont will become my new Drabek? I guess that's alright.

    ha, I figured Toronto would insist on having Aumont since he's Canadian and wowed the crowd in Toronto at the WBC.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    I'm sure Halladay will be fine but this bums me out. Lee really fit in well with this team. From the moment he came, it just seemed "right" that he was a Phillie. He's a hard-nosed kind of player in the vein of Utley or Werth.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,539
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I'm sure Halladay will be fine but this bums me out. Lee really fit in well with this team. From the moment he came, it just seemed "right" that he was a Phillie. He's a hard-nosed kind of player in the vein of Utley or Werth.

    Wait till you see Doc. Talk about hard nosed.

    I don't like to bring this guy up as he was a terrible president, but he's actually not a bad baseball guy. One George W. Bush - I remember he was asked back in 06 or 07, "If you had to pick one position player and one pitcher to start a franchise and you could pick any player from any team, who would they be?" He answered Utley and Halladay. And now here they are on the same team. Terrible president, but he does know his baseball.

    Yo, so this Aumont dude is 6'7" 220? Get this man conditioned!
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