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  • Boston Posts: 4,668
    curt schilling now on radio.

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  • Posts: 6,996
    YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

    yes. Both Yanks and Rays got better in the hitting department this year and their pitching will be right there. We can't be complacent with hoping our hitting will come through with what we have. Don't forget we lost Manny at the All-Star break and quite frankly that void was never fully filled (although Bay is a great addition). We need a Hanley/Tex type of hitter added to the lineup in my opinion.

    The drop off from Manny to Bay wasn't that great last season:

    Manny pretrade with the Sox .299/.398/.529 OPS .927
    Bay posttrade with the Sox .293/.370/.527 OPS .897

    Manny in 07 with the Sox .296/.388/.493 OPS .881

    If Bay puts up the same numbers he did last year, the Sox should be ok. Plus it's a contract year for him. And if he doesn't Holliday should be on the market come trade deadline day.
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  • Boston Posts: 4,668
    Solat13 wrote:
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    The drop off from Manny to Bay wasn't that great last season:

    Manny pretrade with the Sox .299/.398/.529 OPS .927
    Bay posttrade with the Sox .293/.370/.527 OPS .897

    Manny in 07 with the Sox .296/.388/.493 OPS .881

    If Bay puts up the same numbers he did last year, the Sox should be ok. Plus it's a contract year for him. And if he doesn't Holliday should be on the market come trade deadline day.

    adding Holiday and keeping Bay is a step in the right direction.
  • Posts: 9,488
    YourDirtisMyfood wrote:
    adding Holiday and keeping Bay is a step in the right direction.

    adding Holliday? The A's just trade Houston Street to the Rockies for Holliday.

    The owner of the A's stated he doesn't even want to trade Holiday in the stretch run ...
    Wolff on Holliday: Wolff said he's inclined to keep outfielder Matt Holliday for the entire season, even if he becomes a free agent next November and leaves the A's.

    "I'd rather take the two draft choices than lose him in the middle of the season," Wolff said.

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    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • Boston Posts: 4,668
    How about Dunn? Dye? What was Saltatamecchia (sic?) stats w/Texas?
  • Posts: 1,331
    YourDirtisMyfood wrote:
    How about Dunn? Dye? What was Saltatamecchia (sic?) stats w/Texas?

    Dunn strikes out to much and he can't play center. That would be the only postition he would play with Bay and Drew. I think they'll give Bay a nice offer to stay. Dye is too old for their liking and Saltalamacia would cost them too much to get. Remember this team was one game from going to the World Series again and they were far from healthy in the post season. They've improved the bullpen and if either the Smoltz or Penny deals work out their pitching will be stacked. Baldelli will be a really good 4th outfielder. The only move that the Yankees made that I'm impressed with is the Texeira deal. Sabathia is good but doesn't scare me because the Sox have always done good against him and Burnett will end up hurt. I think the Pat Burell deal is excellent for the Rays.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me.
  • Boston Posts: 4,668
    I'd be more comfy with an established bat as I just don't know about Lowell, Papi, Drew, Tek/Bard (and who's playing catching, anyways???).
  • Posts: 3,182
    The hitting is dependent on health, as it is with all teams. If Ortiz and Lowell come back healthy than I have no worries. Ellsbury will have a better year and Lowrie played with a wrist/hand injury for the last two months of the season. Sure the Yankees added Tex/Swisher, but they also lost Giambi and Abreu. The Sox also scored more runs per game after Ramirez left Boston. They will wait until the mid-season and then pick up a high caliber player because smaller market teams will be suffering due to the recession.

    However the Rays added Burrell and Matt Joyce. They are the ones to be looking out for in 2009.
    PJ:
    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

    EV Solo: Boston 8/2/08, Boston 6/16/11
  • Posts: 15,993
    Another year, but hopefully not to many changes as for the team...I just keep thinking back to the 2004 team.. That was a team to get excited about :D It was a team that had most of the players for years on it....

    Then very shortly after Winning The World Series ~ everything just feel apart from then on :cry: I truly hope that this team can bring back the excitement and magic it once hat :)

    Wish you were here...
    ♥~RIP Dad
  • Posts: 9,488
    HeartShapedBox wrote:
    Another year, but hopefully not to many changes as for the team...I just keep thinking back to the 2004 team.. That was a team to get excited about :D It was a team that had most of the players for years on it....

    Then very shortly after Winning The World Series ~ everything just feel apart from then on :cry: I truly hope that this team can bring back the excitement and magic it once hat :)

    Everything just fell apart??????

    They made the playoffs in '05 ... won the World Series again in '07 ... and were a game away from the World Series again in '08 ...

    I don't tihnk they've lost one bit of excitement. Perhaps you've lost a hint of interest now that they've won it all? ;)
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    jimed14 wrote:
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    Everything just fell apart??????

    They made the playoffs in '05 ... won the World Series again in '07 ... and were a game away from the World Series again in '08 ...

    I don't tihnk they've lost one bit of excitement. Perhaps you've lost a hint of interest now that they've won it all? ;)

    I agree the excitement for the Sox is always there and what they have done in the last 5 years is utterly incrediblle and I believe it will continue. Just as long as the Yanks keeep A-Rod. :D I'll be visiting Fort Myers for the Opening Day of Spring Training and I can't wait.

    Peace ya'll
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Posts: 15,993
    I'd really like to get to Fenway to see a game this year :D:mrgreen:

    Wish you were here...
    ♥~RIP Dad
  • Posts: 6,996
    HeartShapedBox wrote:
    I'd really like to get to Fenway to see a game this year :D:mrgreen:

    Did you try for tickets on Saturday?
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Posts: 9,488
    Not sure where you are HeartShapedBox, but, you should be very happy that Tek resigned with the Sox today!
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    I, for one, am not thrilled with the deal given to Varitek. I love the guy for what he's done in the past but he just can't get it done anymore. It was time to move on. Now that we've given him a deal with a 2nd year option we're stuck with him for a while longer.
    I wish I was as fortunate, as fortunate as me.
  • Posts: 3,182
    For 5 million I will take tek. The pitching staff clearly loves him and with the addition of Smoltz that will be a great enviornment for young pitchers to learn. I do think the drama was ridiculous though. If he had chosen to not accept the deal my opinion of him would have changed significantly. I for one am glad we didn't trade a young pitcher to Texas, but at the same time the pursuit of Joe Mauer in 2010 is going to be insane and the Yankees will be right there again. Can you say, the Texeira saga part II? Glad its all over and looking forward to the season beginning.
    PJ:
    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

    EV Solo: Boston 8/2/08, Boston 6/16/11
  • Posts: 9,488
    actually, I'd expect the Sox to continue looking into getting Saltalamacchia or Teagarten ... another reason to bring back Tek is to mentor one of these guys they get in a trade.

    $5M for one year, and a Sox option for next year .... that's fine with me.
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • Posts: 3,182
    jimed14 wrote:
    actually, I'd expect the Sox to continue looking into getting Saltalamacchia or Teagarten ... another reason to bring back Tek is to mentor one of these guys they get in a trade.

    $5M for one year, and a Sox option for next year .... that's fine with me.

    The just seem so reluctant to trade Clay for one of those guys. The organization is such a great evaluator of talent and they have put Clay up on a pedestal. Personally, I would like to see him get another shot and if they really need a catcher to trade for Montero. I like what the reliever Daniel Bard brings to the table (100mph fastball), but I think bullpen guys are much more expendable than starters. Michael Bowden can always come out of the bullpen if they need him to do so.

    I hear you though, it would not surprise me at all if they are still looking for the catcher of the future.
    PJ:
    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

    EV Solo: Boston 8/2/08, Boston 6/16/11
  • Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    I'm so glad Tek is back, mainly to keep his consistancy with the Red Sox pitching staff.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Posts: 15,993
    They would have been crazy to not resign him :D

    Congrats Tek!!!!! :D

    Wish you were here...
    ♥~RIP Dad

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