Immigration

lalalalaaaaaaaa · December 2006

onelongsong wrote:

try living in a border state and tell me where the money goes.

Why don't you tell me where it goes? Show me your state's budget.

onelongsong · December 2006

josevolution wrote:

even now when i travel back to CHILE where i was born i ask my self man what a beautyfull country it is, why would my father wan't to leave it and the thruth is he had to it's hard to make a good living there so i thank him every day for having the nerve to leave and coming here to start a new life he made that decision with me and my siblings in mind so i do feel for those faces i see everyday standing there waiting just to see if they can make a days pay it's sad because most of those people have left some one they really care for back in there home countries ...........happy new years everybody.........

it is sad what dictators and greedy governments do to their people. 236 years ago the people of america rose up against its oppressors and won freedom. it's a shame more people don't follow that example. chile is by no means a poor country. its people are poor because of greed and oppression.

onelongsong · December 2006

Saturnal wrote:

Why don't you tell me where it goes? Show me your state's budget.

i get $50.00/hr for secretarial services.

onelongsong · December 2006

CorporateWhore wrote:

Mexico is brutal to illegal immigrants in their country. They want to maintain their ethnic composition.

and you can't own land either even if you immigrate to mexico legally.
does anyone know of a country where it IS legal to enter undocumented?

lalalalaaaaaaaa · December 2006

onelongsong wrote:

i get $50.00/hr for secretarial services.

No prob...it's Friday so I'll just go pick up my welfare check after I play some video games and paypal ya.

caifan82 · December 2006

CorporateWhore wrote:

Mexico is brutal to illegal immigrants in their country. They want to maintain their ethnic composition.

OMG, I was just going to stay silent, but this is such a load of crap! Maintain our ethnic composition?! What the fuck are you talking about?!!?!? What is Mexico's ethnic composition? Is it indigenous, hispanic, a mix of both? What a fucking load of bullshit. I bet you've never been south of Tijuana... so, if one of these days you manage to set your xenophobism appart, just go take a 15 minute drive in one of Mexico's cities... You'll see people of every freaking color (granted, the black population is extremely small so they might be hard to come by), size and width. Mexico was conquered by europeans, you know? We have a HUGE white-skinned population
Wow, some people... Just, just amazing...

caifan82 · December 2006

onelongsong wrote:

and you can't own land either even if you immigrate to mexico legally.
does anyone know of a country where it IS legal to enter undocumented?

And another one... My father is french, he freaking owns a house in which I grew up. Houndreds of Americans own houses in Guanajuato and coast cities, you just need some bank interaction.
It's ok if you are agains't illegal immigrants. Just don't pull "facts" out of your asses.

lalalalaaaaaaaa · December 2006

caifan82 wrote:

OMG, I was just going to stay silent, but this is such a load of crap! Maintain our ethnic composition?! What the fuck are you talking about?!!?!? What is Mexico's ethnic composition? Is it indigenous, hispanic, a mix of both? What a fucking load of bullshit. I bet you've never been south of Tijuana... so, if one of these days you manage to set your xenophobism appart, just go take a 15 minute drive in one of Mexico's cities... You'll see people of every freaking color (granted, the black population is extremely small so they might be hard to come by), size and width. Mexico was conquered by europeans, you know? We have a HUGE white-skinned population
Wow, some people... Just, just amazing...

I agree

"ethnic composition"?...where the hell did that phrase come from? I'd love someone to interview about 10 Mexicans and ask them "are you concerned about your country's ethnic composition". I'm sure all of them would just laugh at the interviewer.

dkst0426 · December 2006

CorporateWhore wrote:

What's the immigration situation in Australia? It's a similar type of country to America: who immigrates there and how many are allowed in?

As someone who is currently in the midst of a citizenship application, I would consider myself a bit more well-versed in the bureaucracy of the former-INS-now-CIS than most, so if I may:

The process of immigrating into the US is in all actuality simpler than most other developed nations. The paperwork is what gets most people, and yes, it's a step-by-step process that requires time and money. The US does not have a points system for immigration. The burden of proof is always going to be on the applicant (as well it should be): proof of financial viability, proof of travel documents, proof of admission to a university, proof of a relationship with a spouse, proof of persecution, etc. etc.

Australia (like Vancouver) had a rush of Chinese immigrants in the late 80s and early 90s (pre-Hong Kong handover flight), and I know that for many ethnic minorities in Southeast Asia, Australia is a favored choice. they have a points system (or at least they did when my family looked at moving there a couple of decades ago).

I hope nobody's fooled into thinking the US Immigration system is too difficult, because while the process seems drawn-out and cumbersome, it's by design to discourage fraud, and is comparable to other immigration policies elsewhere.

As for Mexico's immigration policy: The Mexican solution?

melodious · December 2006

know1 wrote:

I say "come one, come all"....and make it easy to become a legal citizen. If you don't like people who truly want to be here and contribute, then go somewhere else.

Is this similar to words of:

O' Come all ye faithful????

happy end of year, k-1..you one of my favoriites.....

onelongsong · December 2006

Saturnal wrote:

I agree

"ethnic composition"?...where the hell did that phrase come from? I'd love someone to interview about 10 Mexicans and ask them "are you concerned about your country's ethnic composition". I'm sure all of them would just laugh at the interviewer.

if they were so concerned about ethnic composition they'd be marching the streets of america with mexican flags and not american flags.
oh; they do.

melodious · December 2006

onelongsong wrote:

WHY? because the problem is that illegals take money from programs that could go to needy children. try sneeking into mexico. you're showered in automatic weapon fire. why protect the border? drugs and guns. it's not just people coming into this country. many of you cry BAN GUNS; but guess what; you can only ban the legal ones. you can't ban what you don't know exists.
our future is at stake; and don't forget to press one for english.

what about domestic born schmucks who line your streets with their cute little prison walk?

and so are you for or against banning guns? i think i already know you.

"sometimes the ego is grander than the sun....." s/m

onelongsong · December 2006

dkst0426 wrote:

As someone who is currently in the midst of a citizenship application, I would consider myself a bit more well-versed in the bureaucracy of the former-INS-now-CIS than most, so if I may:

The process of immigrating into the US is in all actuality simpler than most other developed nations. The paperwork is what gets most people, and yes, it's a step-by-step process that requires time and money. The US does not have a points system for immigration. The burden of proof is always going to be on the applicant (as well it should be): proof of financial viability, proof of travel documents, proof of admission to a university, proof of a relationship with a spouse, proof of persecution, etc. etc.

Australia (like Vancouver) had a rush of Chinese immigrants in the late 80s and early 90s (pre-Hong Kong handover flight), and I know that for many ethnic minorities in Southeast Asia, Australia is a favored choice. they have a points system (or at least they did when my family looked at moving there a couple of decades ago).

I hope nobody's fooled into thinking the US Immigration system is too difficult, because while the process seems drawn-out and cumbersome, it's by design to discourage fraud, and is comparable to other immigration policies elsewhere.

As for Mexico's immigration policy: The Mexican solution?

so how does a bloke start the process to immigrate to austrailia?

onelongsong · December 2006

melodious wrote:

what about domestic born schmucks who line your streets with their cute little prison walk?

and so are you for or against banning guns? i think i already know you.

"sometimes the ego is grander than the sun....." s/m

when the criminals hand in their guns; i'll be the first law abiding citizen to turn mine in.

caifan82 · December 2006

onelongsong wrote:

if they were so concerned about ethnic composition they'd be marching the streets of america with mexican flags and not american flags.
oh; they do.

What ethnic group does the Mexican flag represent?

onelongsong · December 2006

caifan82 wrote:

And another one... My father is french, he freaking owns a house in which I grew up. Houndreds of Americans own houses in Guanajuato and coast cities, you just need some bank interaction.
It's ok if you are agains't illegal immigrants. Just don't pull "facts" out of your asses.

i have several friends trying to buy land in rocky point for retirement homes. they told me they are not allowed to own property in mexico. they can own the house but not the land it sits on.
sorry if i passed on the wrong information.

catefrances · December 2006

onelongsong wrote:

so how does a bloke start the process to immigrate to austrailia?

well you could marry an australian.

but whatever you do DO NOT come in on a boat. cause we will throw your arse in a concentra...oops sorry...detention camp. but you're an american so you should have no problem emigrating.

onelongsong · December 2006

catefrances wrote:

well you could marry an australian.

but whatever you do DO NOT come in on a boat. cause we will throw your arse in a concentra...oops sorry...detention camp. but you're an american so you should have no problem emigrating.

thank you. i wanted a serious answer but didn't think i'd get one here. i had a job offer in sydney in the '70s and i'm kicking myself for not taking it.

dkst0426 · December 2006

onelongsong wrote:

so how does a bloke start the process to immigrate to austrailia?

Not my place to answer with much authority, since it was my parents looking into the process back when, but I imagine it wouldn't be much different from starting the process here--obtain the forms, get your documentation together, and apply. Insert the "get the services of an immigration lawyer" step anywhere in there.

catefrances · December 2006

onelongsong wrote:

thank you. i wanted a serious answer but didn't think i'd get one here. i had a job offer in sydney in the '70s and i'm kicking myself for not taking it.

well you know sydney's still here and the rest of australia isn't too bad either.

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