Meet Your Meat: WARNING - Extremely Graphic Animal Cruelty

surferdude wrote:

I'm not wild about the business practices but truthfully they don't bother me enough to stop eating meat. I try to stick with free range chickens but if they're not in #62 10-04-2007, 04:03 PM
Snake
Animal Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Inbetween the lines where no one else will look.
Posts: 70


stock I'll buy what's available.

Push for better practices. I don't care if it drives the cost up. But please don't tell me or ask me to stop eating meat. I don't want to hear your take on the health advantages of a meat free diet anymore than you want to hear about saving your soul from someone knocking on your door. I'm glad you have your beliefs, just don't push them on me.

Now thats cool with me. I have no problem with it. All I have a problem with is the way the treat the animals. Im cool with the whole circle of life one dies another is sustained thing.

To start off, I AM a meateater, beef, chicken, pork, whatever. And I am not here to preach, only to share something. If interested about what we eat and how it affects both ourselves and the environment, read the book The Omnivore's Dilemma. Discusses pros and cons of vegan, vegetarian, meat, etc...Very long book but very interesting read. Especially interesting is how Cows actually evolved to eat grass but now mostly eat corn and how this affects the final product, MEAT. Also how much antibiotics are used in meat production. And finally, how the availability of certain fruits and vegetables on the other side of the world actually contributes to Pollution because it must be shipped here.
Sustainability is the key here-buy what you eat locally, and grow some vegetables and fruits on your own if you can. Eerily similar to the idea contained in Ishmael that we must return to our roots as hunter-gatherers, just in a different way.

P.S. CORN IS IN BASICALLY EVERYTHING

I think what I meant to say was that our bodies are capable of eating/digesting both plants and meats. We are omnivorous. Opportunists, if you will.

Hunters and gatherers.....plants and animals. Out teeth are better suited for grinding rather than tearing. But our total body and mind make us "intelligent" enough to create farms and ranches, so we dont need to constantly hunt and gather.

I will continue to eat meat. I respect the opinion oof both the vegans and carnivores.

I think, though, we could all agree that more needs to be done to regulate the way everything is processed.

Its not surprising to me that people have grown to the proportions that they are seeing how we eat....not just fat, but taller. I wonder if thats due to the amounts of rBGH in the beef we eat??

And how children are entering puberty earlier and earlier?

But either way, I think most agree that:

1. More needs to be done to stop the suffering of animals.

2. Even "meat-eaters" like myself, could probably stand to cut back on the massive portions we eat.


I think meat makes up about half my diet, when realistically, it shoul dbe about 20-25% of my diet. Maybe less.

Theres no need for me to eat bacon and steaks and ribs every week. (Love that stuff though)

But I will try to find REAL free-range beef and other products for those interested in reducing the hormones, steroids, medicines, in their meats, as well as reducing the amount of tortured animals.

ponner1us wrote:

P.S. CORN IS IN BASICALLY EVERYTHING

I know. I hate corn products.

I agree with everything else you just said.

Gotta go, time to go cut the grass and pollute the environment with my gas mower.
Next year I'm going to get rid of at least half of the grass in my backyard and plant a BIGGER vegetable garden.
There, I just became part of the solution, as long as I use Organic fertilizers.
I think, errrr, Hope?

Thanks to PJpower(another hunter on board, where's CreeNations?)
I hail from Newfoundland originally, and have eaten many wild game(family of hunters and gatherers), but not Antelope. Moose is my favorite. Lean, and tasty.
Ahnimus, Snake, and halv, you have the gift of insight, integrity and education. Thanks. It's always a joy to read your posts.
I am on the teeter-totter again with the meat eating issue. I only eat organic, and local produce, or get it sent from The Rock. It's a completley different color, than what you end up with from the mass-run supermarkets.
I have been a little sensitive of this issue, as I am planning a pregnancy.
I just recently watched Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. That's enough to turn one's stomach for weeks. Anyone else watch it?
Holy human sacrifice Batman!!! A depiction, a movie, a history of Man.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I'm not joking.
I stumbled upon the following... sadly, i was actually googling "phil spector hair" to see his new hairdo ... the blog that contained the write up had this link on the sidebar:

meat.org - the website the meat industry doesn't want you to see
WARNING: The Video is EXTREMELY Graphic

You have been warned.
Seriously.
If you have ANY desire to keep eating meat without getting sick, or if you have chicken in the oven, i'd NOT click the link.
It will FUCK you UP!

I am no hippy.
I was a vegetarian for a year, about ten years ago.

After watching this, i just very well may start again.
Until i can raise my own animals.
Blech!

BLECH BLECH BLECH!

*narrated by alec baldwin, not that it maters

Mmmmm Mmmmm Good!

Now I just need to find a potato documentary and I'll be satisfied.

Vedd Hedd wrote:

I know. I hate corn products.

I agree with everything else you just said.

It's actually soybean oil that seems to be in everything. I think it contains Omega-6. Omega-6 (or whichever it is) is only good in small amounts and also destroys Omega-3 which is very good for you.

I saw the video and I still eat meat. This doesn't mean I don't care about those animals or condone animal cruelty.

69charger wrote:

Yes.

Have you ever killed and butchered your own food?

No. do you?

I could actually probably butcher and kill my own food. I guess I have done that with fish.

But again, its not the butchering.

its not how they die....its how they live, that bothers me.

I can handle the butchering, that really doesnt bother me too much. It not that much different that say, a lion eating the intestines of a still-living gazelle, or a wolf pack tearing a deer to shreds.

but its the complete lifelong suffering of the animal with which I am disgusted.