Meet Your Meat: WARNING - Extremely Graphic Animal Cruelty

69charger

Jeanie wrote:

Guess you're not really worth bothering with. Must be some inbred limited mental capacity that's hampering your comprehension. Anyway, knock yourself out with the kicking. I'm more than happy to punch you in the face if you feel the need to kick me or the dog. And I'm quite sure the SPCA in your area has some lovely fines and jail time for people found being cruel to animals. Perhaps I should give them a ring and let them know about you?

I just ate the puppy. He didn't ever come out of his kick-induced coma. So the SPCA won't find much. There is a leftover leg in the fridge but I'll have that for breakfast. Better call 'em quick!

Jeanie

69charger wrote:

I just ate the puppy. He didn't ever come out of his kick-induced coma. So the SPCA won't find much. There is a leftover leg in the fridge but I'll have that for breakfast. Better call 'em quick!

You should go play on the road now. Preferably a 6 lane highway.
Anyway, I'm done with you. If you are being serious, as far as I can see you're a pathetic excuse for a human being at best and gonna be pillow biting in jail soon enough with or without my help.

And seeing as how none of this advances the thread, I'll be sticking to my quest for "cruelty free" meat and animal products. Not to mention continuing to purchase "cruelty free" beauty and bathroom products. And doing everything in my power to lessen my impact on the habitat of animals.

Anon

69charger wrote:

I'm gonna go kick a puppy in your name

why would even joke about kicking a puppy? and if you're not joking then you are an asshole. I hope a cow eats YOU.

69charger

Jeanie wrote:

If you are being serious, as far as I can see you're a pathetic excuse for a human being at best and gonna be pillow biting in jail soon enough with or without my help.

Being serious?!? Are YOU serious! Yeah, I kicked and ate a puppy for real :rolleyes:

I'll be sticking to my quest for "cruelty free" meat and animal products. Not to mention continuing to purchase "cruelty free" beauty and bathroom products. And doing everything in my power to lessen my impact on the habitat of animals.

...and I will strive for the opposite, just to make you mad

69charger

Pj_Gurl wrote:

why would even joke about kicking a puppy? and if you're not joking then you are an asshole. I hope a cow eats YOU.

You folks aren't seriously this naive?

Scubascott

Pj_Gurl wrote:

why would even joke about kicking a puppy? and if you're not joking then you are an asshole. I hope a cow eats YOU.

Heh, you two (you and Jeanie) take the bait way too easily. . .

Jeanie, sheep can be infuriating, but they're really quite easy to deal with once you get the hang of them, and they're very delicious. All you poor pork eating americans don't know what you're missing out on. I don't think I saw lamb once during my three month stint in the US recently.

By the way - just another bit of info for you. I looked at your gay big brother mate's website. All sounds pretty good, and I think they have some good innovative ideas to help both producers and consumers, but his sales pitch about their lamb being hormone free is pretty lame. All lamb in australia is hormone free as far as I am aware. And yes pretty much all lamb producers do use some drugs and chemicals. These are mostly vaccines to prevent diseases like pulpy kidney, dips and drenches to prevent internal and external parasites like worms, lice etc, and insecticides to treat fly strike. In my opinion its producers of so called 'organic' lamb that should be accused of animal cruelty, because they leave their stock vulnerable to all kinds of diseases and parasites. If you'd even seen a badly fly blown sheep I'm sure you would agree.

Anon

69charger wrote:

You folks aren't seriously this naive?

don't answer a question with a question ignoring my original question and then expect me to answer your question. any further questions, don't bother, i'm not playing.

69charger

Pj_Gurl wrote:

don't answer a question with a question ignoring my original question and then expect me to answer your question. any further questions, don't bother, i'm not playing.

Why would I joke about kicking a puppy? Because it offends people like you two fine ladies

SundaySilence

69charger wrote:

Why would I joke about kicking a puppy? Because it offends people like you two fine ladies

One wonders what you have to gain by spending your time offending people on the internet. Boredom relief maybe. But this discussion though does bring out a possible hypocricy in many animal cruelty discussions. Adamant condemnations of Michael Vick while eating a chicken dinner for example.

decides2dream

well i've done a bit of research online - thanks vedd hedd for all the links you've posted - and sad to say, not too many choices. given where i live, rather surprising. however....definitely have a whole foods nearby, so it looks like we may have buy all our meat there in the future. wish it were a BIT closer....but none the less, happy to read all about their program/commitment. good stuff. it's just such a shame how bloody expensive things of this nature are....good ole supply/demand....but hopefully if enough of us start making these choices, they will become more widely available, less expensive....and less and less animals will have miserable lives of suffering. so in that sense, win-win.

Jeanie

Scubascott wrote:

Heh, you two (you and Jeanie) take the bait way too easily. . .

meh! What can I say? Some people just push my buttons! I'm sure he'll cope!

Scubascott wrote:

Jeanie, sheep can be infuriating, but they're really quite easy to deal with once you get the hang of them, and they're very delicious. All you poor pork eating americans don't know what you're missing out on. I don't think I saw lamb once during my three month stint in the US recently.

I reckon if I was around them all the time, they were familiar with me and knew I was the keeper of the food, we'd get along a whole lot better Scott. Critters seem to be much more pliable when they know you'll feed them! And I agree! I'd take lamb roast over pork any day!

Scubascott wrote:

By the way - just another bit of info for you. I looked at your gay big brother mate's website. All sounds pretty good, and I think they have some good innovative ideas to help both producers and consumers, but his sales pitch about their lamb being hormone free is pretty lame. All lamb in australia is hormone free as far as I am aware. And yes pretty much all lamb producers do use some drugs and chemicals. These are mostly vaccines to prevent diseases like pulpy kidney, dips and drenches to prevent internal and external parasites like worms, lice etc, and insecticides to treat fly strike. In my opinion its producers of so called 'organic' lamb that should be accused of animal cruelty, because they leave their stock vulnerable to all kinds of diseases and parasites. If you'd even seen a badly fly blown sheep I'm sure you would agree.

Well can I just say from a lay persons pov, I wouldn't know that about them all being hormone free and the fact that he's making that claim is pretty clever really because it's what I'm looking for. Also he did get back to me via email quite promptly and address the issue of fly strike and muelsing :

Thirdly our lambs are not muelsed or marked with a blade, instead we use genetics to eliminate fly strike and rubber pressure rings for tail docking and castration.

I agree with you regarding the fly blown sheep Scott, and I understand that muelsing is a fairly standard practice, you'll have to forgive me my citified, "greeny" thinking but if there's an alternative to it that is viable, safe and effective then I'm going for it.
I reckon I'll place an order with the guy. His stuff is sounding pretty good so far to me. I tell you though if we get the farm off the ground and we're looking for sheep, I might be back to ask more questions if you don't mind.

Jeanie

Ok, of the two links I posted earlier in the thread, I emailed both to find out about their animal care and slaughter practices.

I've only heard back from Farmer Dave, who was really helpful, so I just thought I'd mention that and if anyone would like the content of his email response let me know. I'm not sure I should post it on the open forum.