Meet Your Meat: WARNING - Extremely Graphic Animal Cruelty

Ahnimus

My dad always said "Don't beat your meat" I had no idea he meant my food.

Vedd Hedd

Ahnimus wrote:

My dad always said "Don't beat your meat" I had no idea he meant my food.

I'm trying to understand your take on this subject.

On one hand you seem to understand the horror that is meat production. But you also seem to be mocking it in the same breath.

Hmm?

810wmb

MahoganySouls wrote:

We live about an hour from Amish community. We have discussed ordering our meat from them since they do not engage in such practices. They respect life and are kind gentle people.

explain how they gently and kindly kill their meat?

or are you gonna chew it to death?

Vedd Hedd

810wmb wrote:

explain how they gently and kindly kill their meat?

or are you gonna chew it to death?

Its not so much the actual killing. Its the way the animals live their entire lives thats the problem.

The killing should be quick and painless.

The lifelong suffering, I dont think anyone would wish that on any animal.

somebodyelsessky2020

wow i'm speechless

Ahnimus

Vedd Hedd wrote:

I'm trying to understand your take on this subject.

On one hand you seem to understand the horror that is meat production. But you also seem to be mocking it in the same breath.

Hmm?

I don't advocate the cruelty of animals. But by the sheer number of farms and slaughter houses, it's going to happen. This is no different than that thread on psychiatry.

somebodyelsessky2020

well i'm at a crossroads with this. how do we know vegetables/plants don't suffer in some way. we don't know because we can't hear them scream as we're plucking/picking them or whatever. can you actually say for sure the cucumber you're chopping up for your salad isn't going through crazy pain being sliced to pieces. how about all those tomato plants ect. ect. grown in tight cramped greenhouses, fruits and veggies shipped from overseas in cramped containers sometimes left to rot and die in extreme heat in customs.

my2hands

i have always thought about going vegan...

this video has pushed me closer to that reality

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

i agree with everything most people have said, but damn Popeyes is good.

JaneNY

Vedd Hedd wrote:

Not complete proteins.

Actually, there are vegetable sources of complete protein, such as soybeans, and quinoa.

Vedd Hedd

JaneNY wrote:

Actually, there are vegetable sources of complete protein, such as soybeans, and quinoa.

Thats true.

But many vegans do not really eat a diverse group of vegetables, and even many processed soy products are no better that processed meat products.

As a Vegan you have to eat a wide variety of plants in order to get all essential vitamins, minerals, proteins, and fatty acids.

Have a small healthy protion of meat is not only easier, but also provides for additional nutrients as well.

Plus.....steaks taste good:D

But, again, all that being said....there has to be more humane ways of production, and there should be more regulation on the industry.

Obsidian22

I have not watched the video, but I can already imagine what's depicted.
John Robbins new book "Healthy at 100", and Diet for a new America are great
reads. His website has an awful lot of info on alternate food protein sources.

The Garden Diet.com is an extremely valuable site, that is solely dedicated to a raw vegan diet.
Jinjee, is a very educated raw vegan woman, and has 4 beautiful raw vegan children. I can assure you , she hasn't eaten meat, and has breastfed all of her offspring.
No one has mentioned eating nuts, seeds, oils, which all have protein and essential fatty acids for healthy living, birthing and breastfeeding.

surferdude

Well evolution has given me teeth designed for eating meat. As a believer in evolution I'm gonna continue to eat meat. I'll feel no guilt about it either. Sorry.

Obsidian22

to eat meat. It's just sad that alot of human beings don't take responsibility to eat healthy and wisely. The healthcare system would be a little less taxed if more people ate their veggies.
Catch those waves surferdude. I won't even go into the toxic runoff from the meat farms into our lakes and oceans. Pesticides, etc.

I respect people who eat meat, when they actually take responsibility for the animal, and use it the way MAN used it, back in the day.
Where's Creenations dude, who actually goes and hunts his food?

mammasan

That video was pretty bad. Thanks to onelongsong I was able to find a market here in NJ that sells free range meat and that is all I buy.

JaneNY

Vedd Hedd wrote:

Thats true.

But many vegans do not really eat a diverse group of vegetables, and even many processed soy products are no better that processed meat products.

Quite true - I'm not a big believer in 'fake meat' subsitutes. They are unnecessary. Vegans AND others need to educate themselves on proper nutrition. As a nation, the populace is either poorly informed on what is good nutrition, or they choose to ignore what they do know is healthy.

Vedd Hedd wrote:

As a Vegan you have to eat a wide variety of plants in order to get all essential vitamins, minerals, proteins, and fatty acids.

Very true - and I do

And 3/4 joking, I know many think steak tastes good - but consider - I've read that some cultures considered that human meat is tasty too (or dog meat), however we choose not to partake of that. Point being, simply because something is tasty doesn't mean we need it or have to eat it.

I do think we're in agreement that animals should be treated humanely though.

surferdude

Obsidian22 wrote:

I respect people who eat meat, when they actually take responsibility for the animal, and use it the way MAN used it, back in the day.
Where's Creenations dude, who actually goes and hunts his food?

And I guess you grow all your own veggies and fruit just like the MAN did back in the day.

I'll feel guilty for eating meat that is brought to market using modern day methods when others feel guilty for living in modern day houses and use modern day conveniences.

All that said I think the government could do lots to better regulate the meat industry.

Do you think evolution made a mistake when it gave you meat eating teeth?

Obsidian22

And in AGREEMENT! Janeny rocks.
peace and love!

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

nothing beats a bleeding steak. maybe sex. MAYBE.

if i could have sex and eat steak at the same time i dont think i'd ever want anything else.

pjtaper

I couldnt watch the video, and I'm a vegan...
I saw maybe the first 10 seconds... I love animals!