Meet Your Meat: WARNING - Extremely Graphic Animal Cruelty

PJPOWER

MrSmith wrote:

Dude! Haven't you watched Idiocracy? You're a smart guy, even if you are wrong all the time! You need to be out there making babies at a furious rate so that maybe the human gene pool won't be reduced to a ghetto redneck cesspool of stupidity!

that movie is frighteningly real. it may already be too late

Hmmmm, we could solve this whole animal cruelty problem if we could only find something that animals crave........something like.......electrolites!

Sian-of-the-dead

holy shit.

I got to the cattle being slaughtered and HAD to turn it off. I'm currently sat at my desk at work wiping tears from my eyes.

I used to work in morgue and I perform taxidermy as a hobby (only ever using road kill or animals I have found already dead), therefore i'm not generally a squeemish person but this turned my stomach. I have NEVER been more moved or sickened by an anti meat video in all of my born days.

I was a vegetarian for a number of years growing up but started to eat meat again as a means of protest again my vegetarian parents.

As of now, I am a vegetarian again.

Thank you for posting this.

69charger wrote:

Have you ever killed and butchered your own food?

and yes, yes I have.

DriftingByTheStorm

MrSmith wrote:

Dude! Haven't you watched Idiocracy?
that movie is frighteningly real.

I haven't.
But i'll check it out.

MrSmith wrote:

it may already be too late

I don't know about in reference to the movie, but in general, yes ... yes, sadly, it is.

:(

MrSmith wrote:

You're a smart guy, even if you are wrong all the time!

Backhanded Complement Of The Year Award!


Thanks ... uh ... i think?

iamica

I watched that video about 6 years ago, after I'd already become a vegetarian. I think people need to see where their food really comes from. It's a real eye-opener.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I haven't.
But i'll check it out.




I don't know about in reference to the movie, but in general, yes ... yes, sadly, it is.

:(



Backhanded Complement Of The Year Award!


Thanks ... uh ... i think?

first 3 minutes of the movie explains it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAYnc_-ddlw

RolandTD20Kdrummer

idiocracy was hilarious.

69charger

Vedd Hedd wrote:

No. do you?

I could actually probably butcher and kill my own food. I guess I have done that with fish.

But again, its not the butchering.

its not how they die....its how they live, that bothers me.

I can handle the butchering, that really doesnt bother me too much. It not that much different that say, a lion eating the intestines of a still-living gazelle, or a wolf pack tearing a deer to shreds.

but its the complete lifelong suffering of the animal with which I am disgusted.

I do.

Your attitude reminds me of a Will Ferrell skit...

"Oh, right, Margaret, you wanted prime rib. Here's the deal: The Palm wasn't taking reservations, and I didn't even try Morton's because I understand they have a new chef. So for now, let's just go with the Alpo, okay? I know it's not your first choice but keep in mind, you're a fucking dog!"

Animals are not people. Get over it.

in_hiding79

New Orleans Dude wrote:

and this shit is hardly ever on the news....

i couldnt watch the whole thing, it just pisses me off and gets me sad.
makes me wanna go to one of those farms, get a crow bar and just beat the living shit out of one of those cruel farmers

That would be so good if we could do that to those farmers...

Ahnimus

Vedd Hedd wrote:

It kind of does, if you think about it.

If you continue to buy meat from those places, then you are condoning it.

Tell it to the supermarkets, I don't buy my food from slaughterhouses or farmers.

onelongsong

ponner1us wrote:

To start off, I AM a meateater, beef, chicken, pork, whatever. And I am not here to preach, only to share something. If interested about what we eat and how it affects both ourselves and the environment, read the book The Omnivore's Dilemma. Discusses pros and cons of vegan, vegetarian, meat, etc...Very long book but very interesting read. Especially interesting is how Cows actually evolved to eat grass but now mostly eat corn and how this affects the final product, MEAT. Also how much antibiotics are used in meat production. And finally, how the availability of certain fruits and vegetables on the other side of the world actually contributes to Pollution because it must be shipped here.
Sustainability is the key here-buy what you eat locally, and grow some vegetables and fruits on your own if you can. Eerily similar to the idea contained in Ishmael that we must return to our roots as hunter-gatherers, just in a different way.

P.S. CORN IS IN BASICALLY EVERYTHING

that would be a step towards a perfect world.

Commy

onelongsong wrote:

that would be a step towards a perfect world.

a perfect world...



In a perfect world...the goal i hope...Cows would live a meaningful life. Now why the fuck should a cow live a meaningful life...interesting you should ask.

Native americans believed that all life is equal...A plant is worth as much as human life...interesting because the environment surrounding them reflected that ideogy..areas were more healthy and so on than areas untouched by them.

So again, why the fuck should a cow enjoy any sort of meaningful existence...well why should we.

Ahnimus

Commy wrote:

a perfect world...



In a perfect world...the goal i hope...Cows would live a meaningful life. Now why the fuck should a cow live a meaningful life...interesting you should ask.

Native americans believed that all life is equal...A plant is worth as much as human life...interesting because the environment surrounding them reflected that ideogy..areas were more healthy and so on than areas untouched by them.

So again, why the fuck should a cow enjoy any sort of meaningful existence...well why should we.

Interesting, didn't they smoke a lot of plant?

Ahnimus

Actually, there are a lot more cows now then there were before humans. There were no cows before humans. We made cows from the Aurochs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs

Commy

Ahnimus wrote:

Interesting, didn't they smoke a lot of plant?

Uhm...probably. not relevant here.

Ahnimus

Commy wrote:

Uhm...probably. not relevant here.

Well it is, because any substance that humans consume, humans also farm, which means they assist in the plants flourishing. It stands to reason that natives would have taken care of the resources they used, and thus why those regions of land seemed to flourish more. Much to the same vein that we breed Cattle for our consumption. There are so many cows because we breed them, the Aurochs went extinct almost 400 years ago. The domesticated cow survives because we take care of them for our own consumption. If we were to release cows into the wild now, they would go extinct.

Commy

Ahnimus wrote:

Well it is, because any substance that humans consume, humans also farm, which means they assist in the plants flourishing. It stands to reason that natives would have taken care of the resources they used, and thus why those regions of land seemed to flourish more. Much to the same vein that we breed Cattle for our consumption. There are so many cows because we breed them, the Aurochs went extinct almost 400 years ago. The domesticated cow survives because we take care of them for our own consumption. If we were to release cows into the wild now, they would go extinct.[/quote

yea...dont' think releasing cows into the wild is the way to go her either but.


I was driving from Santa Barbara to Seattle a few years ago and I came to this ranch...by ranch I mean this 40 miles of dirt as far as you could see on both sides of the highway filled with cows shoulder to shoulder. The most miserable place I have ever seen to be honest.

So by increasing the quality of life for these animals I'm thinking we can give em some grass at least here and there...maybe a fucking tree ever few miles shit i don't know. Again it comes down to how much you respect life..not just human life.

Ahnimus

Commy wrote:

Ahnimus wrote:

Well it is, because any substance that humans consume, humans also farm, which means they assist in the plants flourishing. It stands to reason that natives would have taken care of the resources they used, and thus why those regions of land seemed to flourish more. Much to the same vein that we breed Cattle for our consumption. There are so many cows because we breed them, the Aurochs went extinct almost 400 years ago. The domesticated cow survives because we take care of them for our own consumption. If we were to release cows into the wild now, they would go extinct.

yea...dont' think releasing cows into the wild is the way to go her either but.


I was driving from Santa Barbara to Seattle a few years ago and I came to this ranch...by ranch I mean this 40 miles of dirt as far as you could see on both sides of the highway filled with cows shoulder to shoulder. The most miserable place I have ever seen to be honest.

So by increasing the quality of life for these animals I'm thinking we can give em some grass at least here and there...maybe a fucking tree ever few miles shit i don't know. Again it comes down to how much you respect life..not just human life.

Hmm, I think it's rather difficult to tell what a Cow thinks of it's environment. My experiences on my uncles Cattle Ranch were such that I didn't think cows cared about trees, they didn't seem to spend much time with them. They did however like their water hole, or pond.

An interesting event that happend was with a calf that had a deformed neck and could not eat and had trouble breathing. My uncle and I went out to execute the animal by lethal shotgun wound to the skull. I was tasked with the job of keeping the mother at bay. The task was not an easy one, I had to smash the heffer in the head with a massive log. The mother was very very protective of her calf, however, once the animal was dead, the heffer left and continued grazing. I'm not sure if it had a genuinely persistant emotional attachment, or if it was simply biologically inclined to protect a living offspring. It didn't seem to care much about revenge.

Either way, a real study should be performed to determine whether or not cows are (i) aware of the details of their surroundings and (ii) have a preference for decor. If it turns out to be the case, I'm in favor of imposing laws on farmers to create more habitable environments.

Commy

Ahnimus wrote:

Hmm, I think it's rather difficult to tell what a Cow thinks of it's environment. My experiences on my uncles Cattle Ranch were such that I didn't think cows cared about trees, they didn't seem to spend much time with them. They did however like their water hole, or pond.

An interesting event that happend was with a calf that had a deformed neck and could not eat and had trouble breathing. My uncle and I went out to execute the animal by lethal shotgun wound to the skull. I was tasked with the job of keeping the mother at bay. The task was not an easy one, I had to smash the heffer in the head with a massive log. The mother was very very protective of her calf, however, once the animal was dead, the heffer left and continued grazing. I'm not sure if it had a genuinely persistant emotional attachment, or if it was simply biologically inclined to protect a living offspring. It didn't seem to care much about revenge.

Either way, a real study should be performed to determine whether or not cows are (i) aware of the details of their surroundings and (ii) have a preference for decor. If it turns out to be the case, I'm in favor of imposing laws on farmers to create more habitable environments.

Study what cows think. K thats a really bad idea, no offense. Spiritual evolution may be more important than I thought.

The idea is that all life is sacred...

gue_barium

Commy wrote:

Study what cows think. K thats a really bad idea, no offense. Spiritual evolution may be more important than I thought.

The idea is that all life is sacred...

I think the meaning of "humane treatment of animals" comes into play here. You're right, though, why would we need to study that?

Collin

Vedd Hedd wrote:

It kind of does, if you think about it.

If you continue to buy meat from those places, then you are condoning it.

How do you know where I buy my food?

And another question is how you define cruelty.