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Meet Your Meat: WARNING - Extremely Graphic Animal Cruelty

DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
edited October 2007 in A Moving Train
I'm not joking.
I stumbled upon the following... sadly, i was actually googling "phil spector hair" to see his new hairdo ... the blog that contained the write up had this link on the sidebar:

meat.org - the website the meat industry doesn't want you to see
WARNING: The Video is EXTREMELY Graphic

You have been warned.
Seriously.
If you have ANY desire to keep eating meat without getting sick, or if you have chicken in the oven, i'd NOT click the link.
It will FUCK you UP!

I am no hippy.
I was a vegetarian for a year, about ten years ago.

After watching this, i just very well may start again.
Until i can raise my own animals.
Blech!

BLECH BLECH BLECH!

*narrated by alec baldwin, not that it maters
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    This is worse

    http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=fff4f07a-f27f-4c5d-a6e4-4f678a083f5e
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • vedderfan10vedderfan10 Posts: 2,497
    That first video was pretty horrendous...

    I HATE eggs! Probably because when I was a kid, my dad used to take me to "egg farms" to pick up our weekly dozen eggs, and we'd have to go right into these huge barns crammed with chickens...I hated it. Fortunately all the egg farms have long since closed and we live in an agricultural community...so we have access to free-range everything...and we can see where most of our food comes from...

    Not a whole lot of people are as fortunate...and that's a damn shame...

    I didn't watch the dog video...Accidently saw some of that once and bawled my eyes out for days....
    be philanthropic
  • MahoganySoulsMahoganySouls Posts: 357
    This is what happens once people adopt the mindset that they are "just" animals.

    Respect life, in any form.
    "When you're climbing to the top, you'd better know the way back down" MSB
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    http://www.eatwild.com/references.html

    Rankins, D. L., Jr. "The Importance of by-Products to the U.S. Beef Industry." Vet Clin North Am Food Anim Pract 18, no. 2 (2002): 207-11, v. "The use of by-products as nutrient sources for beef cattle will continue to be driven by economics. As landfill prices continue to escalate, more by-product will become economically viable as cattle feed. These considerations will be counter-balanced by safety concerns. American consumers are becoming increasingly concerned with the production aspects of their food. The environmental concerns associated with additional landfills will have to be balanced against which by-products consumers will accept in the production of the beef that they consume. These will most assuredly heighten over the coming years."
    Johnson, J. C., Jr., and W. C. McCormick. "Ensiled Diet Containing Processed Municipal Garbage and Sorghum Forage for Heifers." J Dairy Sci 58, no. 11 (1975): 1672-6.
    Johnson, J. C., Jr. "Aerobic Digested Municipal Garbage as a Feedstuff for Cattle." J of Animal Science 41, no. 5 (1975): 1487-95.

    that's just part of it.
  • New Orleans DudeNew Orleans Dude Posts: 61
    and this shit is hardly ever on the news....

    i couldnt watch the whole thing, it just pisses me off and gets me sad.
    makes me wanna go to one of those farms, get a crow bar and just beat the living shit out of one of those cruel farmers
    im awesome
  • ADogNamedPilateADogNamedPilate Texas, USA Posts: 291
    "Rock And Roll McDonalds"
    Austin City Limits - Oct 04, 2009
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Developing humans are largely sheltered from the reality of life.

    Ironically, most people don't believe that animals are conscious, they believe that humans are not animals and consciousness is what separates us. I do believe animals are conscious, probably most of them are, including chickens. But damn I love chicken and the way in which they are slaughtered is barely provoking. I've been well aware of this reality for a long time.

    Just do me a favor, if you choose to go vegan, don't deprive your newborn child of the proteins and fatty acids they need to survive for your own ideological agenda.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • MahoganySoulsMahoganySouls Posts: 357
    I can't stop thinking about this video. I even had a hard time grocery shopping this week.

    We live about an hour from Amish community. We have discussed ordering our meat from them since they do not engage in such practices. They respect life and are kind gentle people.
    "When you're climbing to the top, you'd better know the way back down" MSB
  • MahoganySoulsMahoganySouls Posts: 357
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Developing humans are largely sheltered from the reality of life.

    Ironically, most people don't believe that animals are conscious, they believe that humans are not animals and consciousness is what separates us. I do believe animals are conscious, probably most of them are, including chickens. But damn I love chicken and the way in which they are slaughtered is barely provoking. I've been well aware of this reality for a long time.

    Just do me a favor, if you choose to go vegan, don't deprive your newborn child of the proteins and fatty acids they need to survive for your own ideological agenda.
    Proteins and fatty acids can come from other sources besides flesh.
    "When you're climbing to the top, you'd better know the way back down" MSB
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    Proteins and fatty acids can come from other sources besides flesh.

    Tofu isn't a very good source and it's hard for a baby to swallow. Mom's Milk is the best.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • MahoganySoulsMahoganySouls Posts: 357
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Tofu isn't a very good source and it's hard for a baby to swallow. Mom's Milk is the best.
    LOL I agree with you there that breastfeeding is best, but what does this have to do with animal abuse?
    "When you're climbing to the top, you'd better know the way back down" MSB
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    LOL I agree with you there that breastfeeding is best, but what does this have to do with animal abuse?

    It was sort of an off-the-cuff remark about veganism. Not related I suppose.

    I personally think animals are treated fairly well, relatively speaking. What would reduce the cruelty and create a more humane approach to animal slaughter would be a broader education of the public on the fact that humans are also animals and aside from one tiny part of the brain are virtually identical, cognitively. This means that beating up a chicken is just as bad as beating up a human. Unless you apply more value to humans in some other respect. I'm sure everyone does. Even the staunchest vegetarians and PETA members.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I was gonna eat my left over fettucine with chicken, but now I have a craving for chicken fingers or a big crunch chicken sandwich, maybe some chicken nuggets or fried chicken pieces or popcorn chicken from kentucky fried chicken.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I was gonna eat my left over fettucine with chicken, but now I have a craving for chicken fingers or a big crunch chicken sandwich, maybe some chicken nuggets or fried chicken pieces or popcorn chicken from kentucky fried chicken.

    :D Seriously with the shitty diet you have, I'm surprised that your brain works as well as it does love! ;)
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    bump
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Jeanie wrote:
    :D Seriously with the shitty diet you have, I'm surprised that your brain works as well as it does love! ;)

    I take Centrum ;)
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Whew that was tough to take and now I'll just have some broccoli and rice. Has anyone ever heard of the book by John Robbins....Diet for a New America???
    This well-documented expose of America's "factory farms" should prompt even die-hard meat-and-potatoes lovers to reevaluate their diets. Asserting that "we are ingesting nightmares for breakfast, lunch and dinner," Robbins, who is medical director of the California Institute for Health and Healing, details how livestock is raised under increasingly industrialized conditions by "agribusiness oligopolies." Grazing and foraging have given way to debeaking, tail-docking, dehorning and castration, and treatment with pesticides, hormones, growth and appetite stimulants, tranquilizers and antibioticswhich, in turn, are assimilated by humans. The author correlates our "protein obsessed" society with a higher incidence of arteriosclerosis, osteoporosis, cancer and other degenerative diseases, as well as freakish occurrences like premature puberty from estrogen contamination. As Robbins debunks nutritional myths perpetuated by the powerful meat and dairy industries (indicting as well his family's Baskin-Robbins ice-cream empire), this is sure to prove controversial. Photos not seen by PW.
    Copyright 1987 Reed Business Information, Inc

    It made a huge difference in my life after reading this book.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I take Centrum ;)

    :D Gotta love those vitamin tablets! :p



    Drifting sorry, but I'll not be watching the video, I've seen way too many of them.

    What I would like to say is that we need to move forward assuming that some people will continue to consume meat and provide the best possible practice for the care of those animals and best practice in their slaughter.
    Regardless of whether you are a carnivore, vegetarian or vegan, we all need to eat to survive and what we do need to see is more effort put into sustainable food production that doesn't rape and pillage the planet just for the sake of the almighty dollar.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,606
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Developing humans are largely sheltered from the reality of life.

    Ironically, most people don't believe that animals are conscious, they believe that humans are not animals and consciousness is what separates us. I do believe animals are conscious, probably most of them are, including chickens. But damn I love chicken and the way in which they are slaughtered is barely provoking. I've been well aware of this reality for a long time.

    Just do me a favor, if you choose to go vegan, don't deprive your newborn child of the proteins and fatty acids they need to survive for your own ideological agenda.


    Its really not about going vegan, so much as it is finding ways to make more human methods of meat processing.

    There is no way that it has to be like that.
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,606
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    Proteins and fatty acids can come from other sources besides flesh.

    Not complete proteins. Clearly, the human body was designed to use meat as a food source, and needs it. Especially in developing children.

    However, we can certainly treat animals humanely, stop giving them hormones and antiboitics, and CERTAINLY sut down on our American proportions.

    But most people dont care. Even the ones that do, they might send this to a few friends, and a week later forget about it.
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    My dad always said "Don't beat your meat" I had no idea he meant my food.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,606
    Ahnimus wrote:
    My dad always said "Don't beat your meat" I had no idea he meant my food.


    I'm trying to understand your take on this subject.

    On one hand you seem to understand the horror that is meat production. But you also seem to be mocking it in the same breath.

    Hmm?
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    We live about an hour from Amish community. We have discussed ordering our meat from them since they do not engage in such practices. They respect life and are kind gentle people.


    explain how they gently and kindly kill their meat?

    or are you gonna chew it to death?
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,606
    810wmb wrote:
    explain how they gently and kindly kill their meat?

    or are you gonna chew it to death?


    Its not so much the actual killing. Its the way the animals live their entire lives thats the problem.

    The killing should be quick and painless.

    The lifelong suffering, I dont think anyone would wish that on any animal.
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • somebodyelsessky2020somebodyelsessky2020 Posts: 1,173
    wow i'm speechless
    Oh dear dad
    Can you see me now
    I am myself
    Like you somehow
    I'll ride the wave
    Where it takes me
    I'll hold the pain
    Release me
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Vedd Hedd wrote:
    I'm trying to understand your take on this subject.

    On one hand you seem to understand the horror that is meat production. But you also seem to be mocking it in the same breath.

    Hmm?

    I don't advocate the cruelty of animals. But by the sheer number of farms and slaughter houses, it's going to happen. This is no different than that thread on psychiatry.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • somebodyelsessky2020somebodyelsessky2020 Posts: 1,173
    well i'm at a crossroads with this. how do we know vegetables/plants don't suffer in some way. we don't know because we can't hear them scream as we're plucking/picking them or whatever. can you actually say for sure the cucumber you're chopping up for your salad isn't going through crazy pain being sliced to pieces. how about all those tomato plants ect. ect. grown in tight cramped greenhouses, fruits and veggies shipped from overseas in cramped containers sometimes left to rot and die in extreme heat in customs.
    Oh dear dad
    Can you see me now
    I am myself
    Like you somehow
    I'll ride the wave
    Where it takes me
    I'll hold the pain
    Release me
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    i have always thought about going vegan...

    this video has pushed me closer to that reality
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i agree with everything most people have said, but damn Popeyes is good.
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    Vedd Hedd wrote:
    Not complete proteins.

    Actually, there are vegetable sources of complete protein, such as soybeans, and quinoa.
    R.i.p. Rigoberto Alpizar.
    R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
    R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
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