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  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,294
    You can't be serious. That song didn't have 1/1000th of the groove and soul KoL's weakest moments have. A younger audience hearing that is going to think "what the hell was that?" Yeah, the sound sucked, but that's not enough to obscure the fact that the song was weaker than hell. Ladies and gents... welcome to the latest in a long line (starting with gods' dice up through big wave) of half assed riff rockers that won't be played ever again after the album tour. No groove, no hook, no chorus, no decipherable lyrics, not even a verse as far as I could tell. This is everything I had hoped the new album would not be and feared it would be :( PJ... you're not teenagers anymore, quit trying to write lame punk songs that even teenagers would have the good sense to recognize as weak.

    And who the hell thinks this is new? It sounds exactly like Comatose, take 2. Nothing modern about it. It's a half baked punk song with fancier drum fills.

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  • DaytimeDilemmaDaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    1. Surprised/happy they didnt play "the fixer". It seems they layed the "kings of leon" matt cameron/stone groove song quoted from RS.
    2. It sounded like a KOL song.
    3. Matt has a different kit, its still yamaha, but it looks almost exactly like his old Ayotte. His toms sound better though it seems
    4. Matts drumming was finally fucking complex for Pearl Jam!!!!! fucking finally.
    5. Overall the song was good, i was just sort of like "what the fuck?" listening to it. It was so KOL/modern sounding. I actually prefer the leaked "the fixer" better. the ending with mike was awesome, but they sure as fuck better extend that shit for their shows.
    6. Eds vocals were struggling, shame shame shame.
    7. I think the younger audience will like it.
    8. Lastly, I was really fuckin surprised they had the album art and title out already.

    You can't be serious. That song didn't have 1/1000th of the groove and soul KoL's weakest moments have. A younger audience hearing that is going to think "what the hell was that?" Yeah, the sound sucked, but that's not enough to obscure the fact that the song was weaker than hell. Ladies and gents... welcome to the latest in a long line (starting with gods' dice up through big wave) of half assed riff rockers that won't be played ever again after the album tour. No groove, no hook, no chorus, no decipherable lyrics, not even a verse as far as I could tell. This is everything I had hoped the new album would not be and feared it would be :( PJ... you're not teenagers anymore, quit trying to write lame punk songs that even teenagers would have the good sense to recognize as weak.

    Wow. Didn't want to be that harsh, but well said. I remember when the band wrote songs that weren't powerchord-based riffs...oh those were the days.

    Sonic Youth's "The Eternal," I am sure, will be about 10 times the album the "Backspacer" will be.
  • vedder_soupvedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    i like it, nice and rocky and punky
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  • Yellow BedwetterYellow Bedwetter NYC Posts: 2,832
    I LOVED the style and direction.. very modern..

    It's going to take some time to digest though. It seemed like a complex song, and DIFFERENT, which is GOOD!

    I don't want to hear something that sounds like other stuff they've done.. people bitchin here want Yield 2.. I DON'T. I already have that album..

    I want something new, and this sounded like it!

    i think this is a very accurate review. I too felt like it was something completely different and modern..yes the sound was shit but i was still able to make out the chorus and lyrical purpose of the song

    The sound was raw like the Ramones, had some punk riffs that reminded me of early Green Day, and some Severed Hand/DTE/Present Tense-esque grooves to it...this will def be a crowd pleaser and sick middle-of-the-set jam to hopefully take the place of Even Flow and save that hit for the Encore (I personally like the 'Flow played towards the end of the 1st encore like at Hartford 08)

    And for the record, Pearl Jam is Pearl Jam - never refer to them as Kings of Leon if you're a fan of Pearl Jam. KOL can open for PJ but PJ does not sound like KOL - they created their own sound and the fans harness that

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  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966

    You can't be serious. That song didn't have 1/1000th of the groove and soul KoL's weakest moments have. A younger audience hearing that is going to think "what the hell was that?" Yeah, the sound sucked, but that's not enough to obscure the fact that the song was weaker than hell. Ladies and gents... welcome to the latest in a long line (starting with gods' dice up through big wave) of half assed riff rockers that won't be played ever again after the album tour. No groove, no hook, no chorus, no decipherable lyrics, not even a verse as far as I could tell. This is everything I had hoped the new album would not be and feared it would be :( PJ... you're not teenagers anymore, quit trying to write lame punk songs that even teenagers would have the good sense to recognize as weak.

    And who the hell thinks this is new? It sounds exactly like Comatose, take 2. Nothing modern about it. It's a half baked punk song with fancier drum fills.


    hmmm..........it had a chorus, which i liked..........a groove, which was even better........tons of energy......
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Hawk123 wrote:
    You can't be serious. That song didn't have 1/1000th of the groove and soul KoL's weakest moments have. A younger audience hearing that is going to think "what the hell was that?" Yeah, the sound sucked, but that's not enough to obscure the fact that the song was weaker than hell. Ladies and gents... welcome to the latest in a long line (starting with gods' dice up through big wave) of half assed riff rockers that won't be played ever again after the album tour. No groove, no hook, no chorus, no decipherable lyrics, not even a verse as far as I could tell. This is everything I had hoped the new album would not be and feared it would be :( PJ... you're not teenagers anymore, quit trying to write lame punk songs that even teenagers would have the good sense to recognize as weak.

    And who the hell thinks this is new? It sounds exactly like Comatose, take 2. Nothing modern about it. It's a half baked punk song with fancier drum fills.

    captain bringdown

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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146

    You can't be serious. That song didn't have 1/1000th of the groove and soul KoL's weakest moments have. A younger audience hearing that is going to think "what the hell was that?" Yeah, the sound sucked, but that's not enough to obscure the fact that the song was weaker than hell. Ladies and gents... welcome to the latest in a long line (starting with gods' dice up through big wave) of half assed riff rockers that won't be played ever again after the album tour. No groove, no hook, no chorus, no decipherable lyrics, not even a verse as far as I could tell. This is everything I had hoped the new album would not be and feared it would be :( PJ... you're not teenagers anymore, quit trying to write lame punk songs that even teenagers would have the good sense to recognize as weak.

    And who the hell thinks this is new? It sounds exactly like Comatose, take 2. Nothing modern about it. It's a half baked punk song with fancier drum fills.


    man i knew this would be your reaction....
  • PlantPage55PlantPage55 Posts: 136
    Actually "The Eternal" is not very good at all. PJ could fart into a recording booth and top it.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
  • Murderers.Murderers. Posts: 1,382
    1. Surprised/happy they didnt play "the fixer". It seems they layed the "kings of leon" matt cameron/stone groove song quoted from RS.
    2. It sounded like a KOL song.
    3. Matt has a different kit, its still yamaha, but it looks almost exactly like his old Ayotte. His toms sound better though it seems
    4. Matts drumming was finally fucking complex for Pearl Jam!!!!! fucking finally.
    5. Overall the song was good, i was just sort of like "what the fuck?" listening to it. It was so KOL/modern sounding. I actually prefer the leaked "the fixer" better. the ending with mike was awesome, but they sure as fuck better extend that shit for their shows.
    6. Eds vocals were struggling, shame shame shame.
    7. I think the younger audience will like it.
    8. Lastly, I was really fuckin surprised they had the album art and title out already.

    You can't be serious. That song didn't have 1/1000th of the groove and soul KoL's weakest moments have. A younger audience hearing that is going to think "what the hell was that?" Yeah, the sound sucked, but that's not enough to obscure the fact that the song was weaker than hell. Ladies and gents... welcome to the latest in a long line (starting with gods' dice up through big wave) of half assed riff rockers that won't be played ever again after the album tour. No groove, no hook, no chorus, no decipherable lyrics, not even a verse as far as I could tell. This is everything I had hoped the new album would not be and feared it would be :( PJ... you're not teenagers anymore, quit trying to write lame punk songs that even teenagers would have the good sense to recognize as weak.

    And who the hell thinks this is new? It sounds exactly like Comatose, take 2. Nothing modern about it. It's a half baked punk song with fancier drum fills.
    Sounds 'exactly' like Comatose? Are you fucking kidding? :lol::lol::lol:
    What the fuck is this world?
  • KartsKarts Posts: 120
    EV's voice was shot, he was struggling. You could tell by the expressions on his face that he was having a hard time hitting the notes and couldn't remember the lyrics. I'm sure he had just lost his voice for the day and it was unfortunate.

    But holy shit the music absolutely rocked, very fast paced and different sounding to anything in their catalog, yet unmistakably Pearl Jam. Didn't expect that at all. Finally some complicated drumming from MC.
  • DaytimeDilemmaDaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    Actually "The Eternal" is not very good at all. PJ could fart into a recording booth and top it.



    Yeah, okay. Doubt you've even heard the album.
  • bigeye21bigeye21 Posts: 981
    jimed14 wrote:
    Hopefully it was Ed's voice that was rough tonight and not the mic that was kicking out, hope they aren't buying their equipment at Target now... :lol:
    Holy fuck that was funny! :lol:
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  • einatshauleinatshaul Posts: 2,219
    Eddie running back and jumping on a ramp quick when tall Conan shows up beside him - Too faunny
    :lol:
  • jhinkle1114jhinkle1114 Posts: 207
    Seemed like a pretty kick ass song, but shame they sound mixing was terrible and you could barely hear the vocals.

    Can't wait to hear a good sounding version of the song though!
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  • Murderers.Murderers. Posts: 1,382
    It sounded nothing like KoL. Besides, they're shit now.
    What the fuck is this world?
  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    1. Surprised/happy they didnt play "the fixer". It seems they layed the "kings of leon" matt cameron/stone groove song quoted from RS.
    2. It sounded like a KOL song.
    3. Matt has a different kit, its still yamaha, but it looks almost exactly like his old Ayotte. His toms sound better though it seems
    4. Matts drumming was finally fucking complex for Pearl Jam!!!!! fucking finally.
    5. Overall the song was good, i was just sort of like "what the fuck?" listening to it. It was so KOL/modern sounding. I actually prefer the leaked "the fixer" better. the ending with mike was awesome, but they sure as fuck better extend that shit for their shows.
    6. Eds vocals were struggling, shame shame shame.
    7. I think the younger audience will like it.
    8. Lastly, I was really fuckin surprised they had the album art and title out already.

    You can't be serious. That song didn't have 1/1000th of the groove and soul KoL's weakest moments have. A younger audience hearing that is going to think "what the hell was that?" Yeah, the sound sucked, but that's not enough to obscure the fact that the song was weaker than hell. Ladies and gents... welcome to the latest in a long line (starting with gods' dice up through big wave) of half assed riff rockers that won't be played ever again after the album tour. No groove, no hook, no chorus, no decipherable lyrics, not even a verse as far as I could tell. This is everything I had hoped the new album would not be and feared it would be :( PJ... you're not teenagers anymore, quit trying to write lame punk songs that even teenagers would have the good sense to recognize as weak.

    And who the hell thinks this is new? It sounds exactly like Comatose, take 2. Nothing modern about it. It's a half baked punk song with fancier drum fills.
    Yeah ok.. comatose part 2.. EXACTLY.. you sure nailed it. That song sounds real good. They aren't trying to be anyone. KOL pail in comparison to PJ.
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  • 1. Surprised/happy they didnt play "the fixer". It seems they layed the "kings of leon" matt cameron/stone groove song quoted from RS.
    2. It sounded like a KOL song.
    3. Matt has a different kit, its still yamaha, but it looks almost exactly like his old Ayotte. His toms sound better though it seems
    4. Matts drumming was finally fucking complex for Pearl Jam!!!!! fucking finally.
    5. Overall the song was good, i was just sort of like "what the fuck?" listening to it. It was so KOL/modern sounding. I actually prefer the leaked "the fixer" better. the ending with mike was awesome, but they sure as fuck better extend that shit for their shows.
    6. Eds vocals were struggling, shame shame shame.
    7. I think the younger audience will like it.
    8. Lastly, I was really fuckin surprised they had the album art and title out already.

    You can't be serious. That song didn't have 1/1000th of the groove and soul KoL's weakest moments have. A younger audience hearing that is going to think "what the hell was that?" Yeah, the sound sucked, but that's not enough to obscure the fact that the song was weaker than hell. Ladies and gents... welcome to the latest in a long line (starting with gods' dice up through big wave) of half assed riff rockers that won't be played ever again after the album tour. No groove, no hook, no chorus, no decipherable lyrics, not even a verse as far as I could tell. This is everything I had hoped the new album would not be and feared it would be :( PJ... you're not teenagers anymore, quit trying to write lame punk songs that even teenagers would have the good sense to recognize as weak.

    Wow. Didn't want to be that harsh, but well said. I remember when the band wrote songs that weren't powerchord-based riffs...oh those were the days.

    Sonic Youth's "The Eternal," I am sure, will be about 10 times the album the "Backspacer" will be.

    Quite frankly you two should be run over by a mack truck. :P Song was awesome, will be great on record. I loved the first two songs I have heard so far. PJ is a post-punk band, have been since Vitalogy, deal with it. I was scared that after the punk rawk of Avacodo they might go soft serve on us, but they did not, and i love them for it.

    Stone was made for head bobbin'. Mike was made for face melting.
  • Electric FeelElectric Feel Posts: 198
    edited June 2009
    edited due to irrlevency.
    Post edited by Electric Feel on
  • AtlantaJammerAtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    I just listened 4 more times. I like this song a lot. Going to be awesome hearing it in a arena. I can't wait for Backspacer!!!

    The breakdown is great, great guitar work by Mike, and Ed wasn't at 100% but the sound didn't help.


    Arena? Outdoor shows really show what PJ is all about...
  • iamrockmusiciamrockmusic Orlando, FL Posts: 443
    i dug it. i liked the avocado album but when i first heard WWS, i was like 'uh-oh'. just not my favorite song.

    after hearing this song, i'm VERY excited for the new record. really like this tune, whether it's 'the fixer' or not. whatever it is, it rocks...
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  • AtlantaJammerAtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    Murderers wrote:
    It sounded nothing like KoL. Besides, they're shit now.


    It absolutely sounded NOTHING like KOL...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,495
    The sound quality was awful. I totally was not feeling it. But now that I've gotten an mp3 which weirdly enough sounds a lot cleaner I'm starting to enjoy the song. Thanks to whoever uploaded that btw :)


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  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    edited June 2009
    What a bunch of negative, disgruntled bitches complaining about this song.

    It's the first fucking time we are hearing it, the sound wasn't even good, and it still kicked ass. Stop jumping and assuming so god damn quick.

    We know the band is going to be 20, and we know what they have done already... change to me is good. Stop acting like you thought we were going to get Vs part 2... because we are not. That era is over with. It doesn't have to be the same in order for it to be good. And I can't wait for "Backspacer".
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    i dug it. i liked the avocado album but when i first heard WWS, i was like 'uh-oh'. just not my favorite song.

    after hearing this song, i'm VERY excited for the new record. really like this tune, whether it's 'the fixer' or not. whatever it is, it rocks...

    right there with you. WWS is my least favorite song off their last record. this song (in my opinion) is much stronger than WWS.
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  • jhinkle1114jhinkle1114 Posts: 207
    I'm digging it more after a couple listens to the MP3 the other member was kind enough to upload.
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  • Murderers.Murderers. Posts: 1,382
    Murderers wrote:
    It sounded nothing like KoL. Besides, they're shit now.


    It absolutely sounded NOTHING like KOL...
    I know. ;)
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  • PlantPage55PlantPage55 Posts: 136
    Actually "The Eternal" is not very good at all. PJ could fart into a recording booth and top it.

    Yeah, okay. Doubt you've even heard the album.

    Ha ha, dude. It's been leaked for about a MONTH now. I've listened to it several times.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    You can't be serious. That song didn't have 1/1000th of the groove and soul KoL's weakest moments have. A younger audience hearing that is going to think "what the hell was that?" Yeah, the sound sucked, but that's not enough to obscure the fact that the song was weaker than hell. Ladies and gents... welcome to the latest in a long line (starting with gods' dice up through big wave) of half assed riff rockers that won't be played ever again after the album tour. No groove, no hook, no chorus, no decipherable lyrics, not even a verse as far as I could tell. This is everything I had hoped the new album would not be and feared it would be :( PJ... you're not teenagers anymore, quit trying to write lame punk songs that even teenagers would have the good sense to recognize as weak.

    Wow. Didn't want to be that harsh, but well said. I remember when the band wrote songs that weren't powerchord-based riffs...oh those were the days.

    Sonic Youth's "The Eternal," I am sure, will be about 10 times the album the "Backspacer" will be.

    Quite frankly you two should be run over by a mack truck. :P Song was awesome, will be great on record. I loved the first two songs I have heard so far. PJ is a post-punk band, have been since Vitalogy, deal with it. I was scared that after the punk rawk of Avacodo they might go soft serve on us, but they did not, and i love them for it.

    Stone was made for head bobbin'. Mike was made for face melting.

    Exactly, Stone was made for head bobbing. Play that song back for yourself right now. Tell me how the hell you can bob your head to that crap. Post punk is one thing... Talking Heads were post punk. It doesn't mean you can't have rhythm or a bit of funk in the sound, which is what made PJ so special... Stone kept just enough groove in the hard rock/punk to make the music fun. Vitalogy-Yield are my favorite albums because they exemplify that mixture (thanks Jack!). Now... now they sound like a sad bunch of middle aged men still trying to write Ramones songs... there's no more fun, no more beloved Stoney funk anymore. :(
  • GlenGlen Posts: 111
    Listened to it a few times love the pace of it, lyrics sound pretty simplistic but have to expect that due to the tempo I guess. Artwork looks unfinished so I wouldn't say it is what the album will look like.

    All up like it even with Ed struggling, band sounds tight.
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Loved the tempo,that song would be a good 2nd to 5th song in the set list. Think it would get the crowd rocking like animal or corduroy does that early on.
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