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  • gus stillsgus stills Posts: 368
    I dug it. I agree with everyone who thinks it's gonna be a killer song live--especially some of Matt's drum work there in the middle. And I'm not sure where people are getting the K o L comparison...I saw them live last weekend, loved their show to death, and this song sounded NOTHING like them. This was definitely a PJ tune, can't wait to hear it this fall out here on the west coast!
  • knikknik Posts: 94
    Too bad that Ed's voice was shot. I was quite unimpressed when I first saw it, probably because of the bad sound and Ed struggling. After hearing it for the second time, I can say that it has a nice groove, very upbeat and modern sounding. I like it :D. I feel that this record it going to have a very buoyant sound to it.
  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578

    Exactly, Stone was made for head bobbing. Play that song back for yourself right now. Tell me how the hell you can bob your head to that crap. Post punk is one thing... Talking Heads were post punk. It doesn't mean you can't have rhythm or a bit of funk in the sound, which is what made PJ so special... Stone kept just enough groove in the hard rock/punk to make the music fun. Vitalogy-Yield are my favorite albums because they exemplify that mixture (thanks Jack!). Now... now they sound like a sad bunch of middle aged men still trying to write Ramones songs... there's no more fun, no more beloved Stoney funk anymore. :(
    Then do yourself a favor.. don't buy the new cd.

    O yea.. im listening again.. im bobbing my head.
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  • iamrockmusiciamrockmusic Orlando, FL Posts: 443
    you know, i haven't been on the boards much for the last year or so. i think it's great that there's so much activity going on in anticipation of the new tour dates and record, but it's the same old stuff with so many people pissing and moaning at each other. i don't mind if someone doesn't like the new song/album or whatever, that's what message boards are all about (although i prefer the positivity). i just suppose it's a fact of life that there will always be people on here that feel the need to ridicule other people for their thoughts or opinions. that's too bad. i mean, pearl jam is my favorite band ever, but i don't need everyone to love everything they ever did.

    say it with me people. it'll all be ok...
    it'll all be ok...

    really, who cares if someone says they like KOL better. or that they think the new song sucks. or that ed's lost it. or that matt's hair is too long/short/blonde/brown/orange. or that stone didn't wear his green shorts. it's ok to discuss all these things, but come on folks, must we insult one another? we're all friends here, right?

    i'm going to go listen to the new song again now. and be happy about it.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    What a bunch of negative, disgruntled bitches complaining about this song.

    It's the first fucking time we are hearing it, the sound wasn't even good, and it still kicked ass. Stop jumping and assuming so god damn quick.

    We know the band is going to be 20, and we know what they have done already... change to me is good. Stop acting like you thought we were going to get Vs part 2... because we are not. That era is over with. It doesn't have to be the same in order for it to be good. And I can't wait for "Backspacer".

    1. It didn't kick ass. It was utterly boring and forgettable. The fact that they jumped and growled a lot doesn't make it kick ass.

    2. Change is good. There is nothing new about that song. Same boring racing riffs they've been trying to make work (to no avail) since Binaural. Same awkward, rushed, word throaty spitting/growling from Ed (the guy that used to be able to belt out vocals from his gut and make the world pause to listen). There was nothing new about this song other than Matt's fancy drumming, which is not new, they just finally injected it into a new song from the get go rather than waiting to insert it live.
  • 2003Tar Heel PJ Fan2003Tar Heel PJ Fan Charlotte, NC Posts: 54
    can someone PM me with the mp3 ? Thanks !

    give it time folks.. i mean, that song had energy and was intense. Just think back to the Riot Act Dave letterman performance.. we waited two plus years for I Am Mine ? Granted we had Save You as well, but I agree, there is intense potential for the new album. Avocado was an appetizer, like guacomole dip (terrible analogy)...

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  • DonJonDonJon Posts: 5,089
    knik wrote:
    Too bad that Ed's voice was shot. I was quite unimpressed when I first saw it, probably because of the bad sound and Ed struggling. After hearing it for the second time, I can say that it has a nice groove, very upbeat and modern sounding. I like it :D. I feel that this record it going to have a very buoyant sound to it.

    Yeah I feel similar to this. At first I thought yep I like the pace but its a bit messy/all over the place. After a few listens now its falling into place. WWS hit me more so after 2 listens than this did but Ill go back and have another listen now.

    Love the pace!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me.
  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    What a bunch of negative, disgruntled bitches complaining about this song.

    It's the first fucking time we are hearing it, the sound wasn't even good, and it still kicked ass. Stop jumping and assuming so god damn quick.

    We know the band is going to be 20, and we know what they have done already... change to me is good. Stop acting like you thought we were going to get Vs part 2... because we are not. That era is over with. It doesn't have to be the same in order for it to be good. And I can't wait for "Backspacer".

    1. It didn't kick ass. It was utterly boring and forgettable. The fact that they jumped and growled a lot doesn't make it kick ass.

    2. Change is good. There is nothing new about that song. Same boring racing riffs they've been trying to make work (to no avail) since Binaural. Same awkward, rushed, word throaty spitting/growling from Ed (the guy that used to be able to belt out vocals from his gut and make the world pause to listen). There was nothing new about this song other than Matt's fancy drumming, which is not new, they just finally injected it into a new song from the get go rather than waiting to insert it live.
    lol.. takes a lot to please you don't it?

    Im pleased with the song, I love the way it sounds. I know I enjoy it, and have high hopes for the new record.


    Answer me this.. is a singer allowed to have an off night?
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  • AtlantaJammerAtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    can someone PM me with the mp3 ? Thanks !

    give it time folks.. i mean, that song had energy and was intense. Just think back to the Riot Act Dave letterman performance.. we waited two plus years for I Am Mine ? Granted we had Save You as well, but I agree, there is intense potential for the new album. Avocado was an appetizer, like guacomole dip (terrible analogy)...

    PEARL JAM ARE BACK !


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  • PlantPage55PlantPage55 Posts: 136
    I have no problems with the song. But Mainstream America will, just because this isn't what they're looking for anymore. Most of us, including myself, could give 2 shits less about Mainstream America.

    I just hope PJ doesn't care very much either, but I feel like they want to get a little bigger than they are right now and I'm not sure they're releasing the right songs to do it.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    That song is gonna be killer with some Brendan O'Brien production
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  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    I have no problems with the song. But Mainstream America will, just because this isn't what they're looking for anymore. Most of us, including myself, could give 2 shits less about Mainstream America.

    I just hope PJ doesn't care very much either, but I feel like they want to get a little bigger than they are right now and I'm not sure they're releasing the right songs to do it.
    Since when have "we" as Pearl Jam fans cared about what the masses think? Fuck it.. that's why we like it and they don't.
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  • AtlantaJammerAtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    I have no problems with the song. But Mainstream America will, just because this isn't what they're looking for anymore. Most of us, including myself, could give 2 shits less about Mainstream America.

    I just hope PJ doesn't care very much either, but I feel like they want to get a little bigger than they are right now and I'm not sure they're releasing the right songs to do it.


    Agree. Shoot me...
  • I loved it. Eddie seemed to be struggling with his voice, plus maybe the Tonight Show screwed up his sound.

    I'm going to bed happy and can't wait to hear the rest of the album!!!
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,169
    I loved it.
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  • PlantPage55PlantPage55 Posts: 136
    I have no problems with the song. But Mainstream America will, just because this isn't what they're looking for anymore. Most of us, including myself, could give 2 shits less about Mainstream America.

    I just hope PJ doesn't care very much either, but I feel like they want to get a little bigger than they are right now and I'm not sure they're releasing the right songs to do it.
    Since when have "we" as Pearl Jam fans cared about what the masses think? Fuck it.. that's why we like it and they don't.

    That's exactly my point! :D
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    What a bunch of negative, disgruntled bitches complaining about this song.

    It's the first fucking time we are hearing it, the sound wasn't even good, and it still kicked ass. Stop jumping and assuming so god damn quick.

    We know the band is going to be 20, and we know what they have done already... change to me is good. Stop acting like you thought we were going to get Vs part 2... because we are not. That era is over with. It doesn't have to be the same in order for it to be good. And I can't wait for "Backspacer".

    1. It didn't kick ass. It was utterly boring and forgettable. The fact that they jumped and growled a lot doesn't make it kick ass.

    2. Change is good. There is nothing new about that song. Same boring racing riffs they've been trying to make work (to no avail) since Binaural. Same awkward, rushed, word throaty spitting/growling from Ed (the guy that used to be able to belt out vocals from his gut and make the world pause to listen). There was nothing new about this song other than Matt's fancy drumming, which is not new, they just finally injected it into a new song from the get go rather than waiting to insert it live.
    lol.. takes a lot to please you don't it?

    Im pleased with the song, I love the way it sounds. I know I enjoy it, and have high hoped for the new record.

    Answer em this.. is a singer allowed to have an off night?

    Absolutely. My problem is the fact that he does that sound on purpose. As I've mentioned before... see Comatose. This was the same style of vocal delivery... rapid fire word-spitting that equates to him basically mumbling and screeching. Even on a great night, that kind of song is going to sound bad. Ed's voice isn't made for that, it's made for singing. They used to be able to rock without having to just double the tempo of everything. See Leash and Animal, Last Exit, Hail Hail... all songs that rocked but still allowed Ed to SING and the band to play rather than just strum like a hamster with ADD on its wheel.

    It doesn't take much to please me. I liked Army Reserve. WWS was one of the better rockers of recent years... again, it unfolded much slower, Ed mumbled, but there was still a musical rhythm to his singing, not spoken word at double speed. Just give the band some room to breathe. I feel like anymore I'm listening to a week early Green Day album.
  • LedbetterdaysLedbetterdays Round Rock, Texas Posts: 556
    Not perfect but here we go....help if you can I am tired

    Every night with the lights out
    where you go
    whats wrong
    every time you can try but cant turn on
    your on the phone
    got some if you need it I got some if you need it
    I got some if you need it I got some if you need it

    Cannot give up before its gone
    lets everybody carry carry on
    turn it up turn it on before they're gone
    lets everybody carry on ????

    This situation is ????????????
    are you on the ride
    are you falling out
    letting go
    dont let go yet

    Got some if you need it got some if you need it
    Got some if you need it got some if you need it

    Cannot get it up before theyre down
    lets everybody get it up get it on
    tear it up turn it off before they're gone
    lets everybody get it on get it on

    this situation ???????
    are you on the ride
    are you falling down
    letting go
    dont let go yeah

    this imitation is
    are you dropping bombs
    are you getting out
    have you heard assistant managers all day

    got some if you need it got some
    oooh ooohh

    Get it out get it up before its gone
    lets everybody carry carry on
    turn it burn it up before its gone
    lets everybody get it on get it on

    This situation ???????
    are you dropping bombs
    are you getting out
    have you assistant managers all day
    lets everybody carry up carry on

    This imitation is
    are you drying up
    are you a big shot
    are you a ????? get some all day

    got some
    action
    carry on
    carry on

    got some if you need it got some if you need it
    carry on carry on
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,495
    great song. great energy. it sounded new and really cool. i enjoyed it.

    100% Jeagler Approved. i like the way this is heading...
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  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578

    Absolutely. My problem is the fact that he does that sound on purpose. As I've mentioned before... see Comatose. This was the same style of vocal delivery... rapid fire word-spitting that equates to him basically mumbling and screeching. Even on a great night, that kind of song is going to sound bad. Ed's voice isn't made for that, it's made for singing. They used to be able to rock without having to just double the tempo of everything. See Leash and Animal, Last Exit, Hail Hail... all songs that rocked but still allowed Ed to SING and the band to play rather than just strum like a hamster with ADD on its wheel.

    It doesn't take much to please me. I liked Army Reserve. WWS was one of the better rockers of recent years... again, it unfolded much slower, Ed mumbled, but there was still a musical rhythm to his singing, not spoken word at double speed. Just give the band some room to breathe. I feel like anymore I'm listening to a week early Green Day album.
    I just hope that you will give the band more credit than you are giving them. It's one performance on a Late Night Talk Show.
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  • PlantPage55PlantPage55 Posts: 136
    Basically what I was trying to say is: "It's not shitty Nickelback." They may not reach a higher audience, but at least they aren't selling out.

    And thank god for that.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,169
    I'm surprised no one's complaining they only played one song.
    I miss igotid88
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    igotid88 wrote:
    I'm surprised no one's complaining they only played one song.

    they'll complain when they hear that after the show ended they played ritfw :mrgreen:
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202

    Absolutely. My problem is the fact that he does that sound on purpose. As I've mentioned before... see Comatose. This was the same style of vocal delivery... rapid fire word-spitting that equates to him basically mumbling and screeching. Even on a great night, that kind of song is going to sound bad. Ed's voice isn't made for that, it's made for singing. They used to be able to rock without having to just double the tempo of everything. See Leash and Animal, Last Exit, Hail Hail... all songs that rocked but still allowed Ed to SING and the band to play rather than just strum like a hamster with ADD on its wheel.

    It doesn't take much to please me. I liked Army Reserve. WWS was one of the better rockers of recent years... again, it unfolded much slower, Ed mumbled, but there was still a musical rhythm to his singing, not spoken word at double speed. Just give the band some room to breathe. I feel like anymore I'm listening to a week early Green Day album.
    I just hope that you will give the band more credit than you are giving them. It's one performance on a Late Night Talk Show.

    I'll be listening to the new album with an open mind, but this doesn't bode well. This sounds exactly like what the band described as their goal in that Rolling Stone article which alarmed me at the time. Now this song... like I said, it seems like the band is purposely taking their sound in the exact direction that hasn't appealed to me over the last few albums. Plus tonight I found out the ex-gf I've been in love with for years and never got over is engaged to the guy she dumped me for. So overall, a rather disappointing evening... I've been abandoned by both my loves ;)
  • AtlantaJammerAtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    igotid88 wrote:
    I'm surprised no one's complaining they only played one song.


    I was thinking the same thing!!
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    igotid88 wrote:
    I'm surprised no one's complaining they only played one song.

    i was wondering about that...
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  • supersonicyearssupersonicyears Posts: 2,619
    Loved the song.
    I wonder when the album will go on sale????
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    TheBeach wrote:
    Loved the song.
    I wonder when the album will go on sale????


    tentative date is sept 22 according to billboard's interview with kelly curtis
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    What a bunch of negative, disgruntled bitches complaining about this song.

    It's the first fucking time we are hearing it, the sound wasn't even good, and it still kicked ass. Stop jumping and assuming so god damn quick.

    We know the band is going to be 20, and we know what they have done already... change to me is good. Stop acting like you thought we were going to get Vs part 2... because we are not. That era is over with. It doesn't have to be the same in order for it to be good. And I can't wait for "Backspacer".

    1. It didn't kick ass. It was utterly boring and forgettable. The fact that they jumped and growled a lot doesn't make it kick ass.

    2. Change is good. There is nothing new about that song. Same boring racing riffs they've been trying to make work (to no avail) since Binaural. Same awkward, rushed, word throaty spitting/growling from Ed (the guy that used to be able to belt out vocals from his gut and make the world pause to listen). There was nothing new about this song other than Matt's fancy drumming, which is not new, they just finally injected it into a new song from the get go rather than waiting to insert it live.

    I sort of agree with you after listening to it a few times. Im really fucking disapointed. It just sounds like some modern punk rock song that any band could have written. Other than Matts good drumming, I cant say Im a fan. I thought I liked it, but now im just like "meh". Jeffs bass playing sounded like a generic punk bass line played with a pick. At first I thought it would be cool that PJ is trying to sound more modern and write a song like that, but it doesnt fit. They are 40 something years old, it doesnt work. I hope the rest of the album isn't like that. I'm more impressed with Santa Cruz then that song. Atleast the leaked showbox song was awesome.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    TheBeach wrote:
    Loved the song.
    I wonder when the album will go on sale????

    yeah I was wondering if Conan was gonna give a date while when he was introducing them
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