I only heard it once last night before going to sleep, and agree the sound in the studio was prett bad. I am not going to judge it until I hear a cleaner version and can hear Ed's words. I did like the music from what I heard. I am looking forward to hearing an MP3 when I get home.
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Of all the reactions here, i'm surprised to see zero comments about Jeffs base. Usually I cant hear him for shit, but I thought his base lines were sweet and right up in the front. That was a nice change.
think some people are just miserable people. They don't like the meal they just ate. They don't like the movie they just watched. They don't like the book they just read. They hate their favorite football team. They didn't like Bush, but they sure as fuck don't like Obama. They're dating somebody, but they really don't like them.
I've come to realize some people just hate everything about everything, so why are we surprised they don't like this song?
I suppose there are some people here who genuinely didn't like the song (although I don't see how) or still don't realize that every new Pearl Jam song or record is somewhat of an acquired taste.
So you don't see how someone can have a different opinion than you ? Pretty funny. For the record, I was pretty disappointed last night and thought the vocals sounded horrible. I thought the music was okay, but Ed definitely seemed to be struggling. The bad mix didn't help at all After listening to the mp3 a couple of times, its grown on me but I wouldn't call it a favorite quite yet. I do agree with your acquired taste comment though!
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First listen was it was OK. Nice and Hard Rocking.Not the same old PJ but isn't that why we love PJ cause they are always pushing the limits.After a couple more listens I like it.Backspacer will be a classic for sure.Can't wait for the rest of the album.Fall seems to be soooo far away for me.
Song was decent but need to hear it with better sound; who knows about the album but as always I'm fuckin' excited to have something new coming...don't want to hear the same old PJ all the time either---they're pushing the limits and sometimes it's great, sometimes it's not. We will see, looking forward to it.
think some people are just miserable people. They don't like the meal they just ate. They don't like the movie they just watched. They don't like the book they just read. They hate their favorite football team. They didn't like Bush, but they sure as fuck don't like Obama. They're dating somebody, but they really don't like them.
I've come to realize some people just hate everything about everything, so why are we surprised they don't like this song?
I suppose there are some people here who genuinely didn't like the song (although I don't see how) or still don't realize that every new Pearl Jam song or record is somewhat of an acquired taste.
So you don't see how someone can have a different opinion than you ? Pretty funny. For the record, I was pretty disappointed last night and thought the vocals sounded horrible. I thought the music was okay, but Ed definitely seemed to be struggling. The bad mix didn't help at all After listening to the mp3 a couple of times, its grown on me but I wouldn't call it a favorite quite yet. I do agree with your acquired taste comment though!
About this song? Naw ... it rocked. Case closed
But seriously ... I could have predicted at this time yesterday ... 12 hours before the Conan performance aired ... that there would be people on this board the next day serving no other purpose than to shit all over everybody's buzz.
I could have even given you some names as to which posters would be the ones doing the shitting. You see them on various threads. They (apparently) are miserable pricks. And predictable miserable pricks at that. It's kind of sad actually.
If someone truly didn't like the song, cool. You can say that. It is America. But if a person is coming here just to shit all over everybody's buzz, he/she is just being a miserable prick.
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think some people are just miserable people. They don't like the meal they just ate. They don't like the movie they just watched. They don't like the book they just read. They hate their favorite football team. They didn't like Bush, but they sure as fuck don't like Obama. They're dating somebody, but they really don't like them.
I've come to realize some people just hate everything about everything, so why are we surprised they don't like this song?
I suppose there are some people here who genuinely didn't like the song (although I don't see how) or still don't realize that every new Pearl Jam song or record is somewhat of an acquired taste.
So you don't see how someone can have a different opinion than you ? Pretty funny. For the record, I was pretty disappointed last night and thought the vocals sounded horrible. I thought the music was okay, but Ed definitely seemed to be struggling. The bad mix didn't help at all After listening to the mp3 a couple of times, its grown on me but I wouldn't call it a favorite quite yet. I do agree with your acquired taste comment though!
About this song? Naw ... it rocked. Case closed
But seriously ... I could have predicted at this time yesterday ... 12 hours before the Conan performance aired ... that there would be people on this board the next day serving no other purpose than to shit all over everybody's buzz.
I could have even given you some names as to which posters would be the ones doing the shitting. You see them on various threads. They (apparently) are miserable pricks. And predictable miserable pricks at that. It's kind of sad actually.
If someone truly didn't like the song, cool. You can say that. It is America. But if a person is coming here just to shit all over everybody's buzz, he/she is just being a miserable prick.
Okay, I've listened a few times now. I think Matt's drumming was top-notch. It was as if he'd seen Dave A's YouTube channel and thought "Pfffffft." Jeff is obviously really into the song. Stone didn't look bored, which makes a feckin' change! Mikey mightn't have done much shredding, but he got that note in at the end that sung beautifully and said more than a solo.
I'll tell you what I think happened with Ed. The band had had a soundcheck, and the sound engineer had said, "Right, I have the levels sorted out." Sometime between the soundcheck and the performance, the levels had been altered and Ed was having to get up on tip-toes to belt out the song. Also, I'm wondering if the studio version is a little slower and they played a bit too fast for Ed to get all the syllables out in the groove to which he's accustomed? I'm thinking they were a little nervous, and there were a couple of minor glitches. However, all in all the performance was a triumph. The song sounds fine, direct, and pop-rocky. The band weren't 'phoning this one in. They were really rocking: maybe even a little too much!
I know the album version will be much better- especially with B.O.B. at the wheel with the production for the album.
I'm really excited to see where they take this new album soundwise and musically. EVERY pj album is unique and yes "Binaural took me 4 yrs to appreciate fully. Now if Pearl jam ever made an album like Chris Cornell's "scream" I'd be really worried. While I respect a bands decision to go in a different direction the pop dance club sound did not work for Chris. At least pearl jam has not done that yet.
anyone else think this song had the same style set up as Green Days new song? hooks repeated over and over multiple time? i dont know i liked it but just think that they are doing what every other band is doing right now
gimme some time to digest like someone else mentioned
I put a little something about it up in my blog on 944.com...
don't go there looking for new information, it's just a quick recap of the song and the Target news from yesterday. but if you want to check out the blog in general, it's here: http://www.944.com/blog/crus-daily-rock ... -on-conan/
at the end of the day, just trying to publicize the band a bit more. 944 Magazine is not exactly a rock and roll magazine, but i was asked by the publisher to start blogging on there to expand the musical flavor on a daily basis. what better topic for today than my favorite band?
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wasn't sure how i felt while watching the show, mainly due to sound quality, although it was clear the music on this was pretty nasty. watched again today, started growing on me, and now after hearing the mp3, i'm really enjoying this a lot. absurdly excited for new album
"Ah, life is a gate, a way, a path to Paradise anyway, why not live for fun and joy and love or some sort of girl by a fireside, why not go to your desire and LAUGH..."
think some people are just miserable people. They don't like the meal they just ate. They don't like the movie they just watched. They don't like the book they just read. They hate their favorite football team. They didn't like Bush, but they sure as fuck don't like Obama. They're dating somebody, but they really don't like them.
I've come to realize some people just hate everything about everything, so why are we surprised they don't like this song?
I suppose there are some people here who genuinely didn't like the song (although I don't see how) or still don't realize that every new Pearl Jam song or record is somewhat of an acquired taste.
So you don't see how someone can have a different opinion than you ? Pretty funny. For the record, I was pretty disappointed last night and thought the vocals sounded horrible. I thought the music was okay, but Ed definitely seemed to be struggling. The bad mix didn't help at all After listening to the mp3 a couple of times, its grown on me but I wouldn't call it a favorite quite yet. I do agree with your acquired taste comment though!
About this song? Naw ... it rocked. Case closed
But seriously ... I could have predicted at this time yesterday ... 12 hours before the Conan performance aired ... that there would be people on this board the next day serving no other purpose than to shit all over everybody's buzz.
I could have even given you some names as to which posters would be the ones doing the shitting. You see them on various threads. They (apparently) are miserable pricks. And predictable miserable pricks at that. It's kind of sad actually.
If someone truly didn't like the song, cool. You can say that. It is America. But if a person is coming here just to shit all over everybody's buzz, he/she is just being a miserable prick.
Thank you! I couldn't put it into words but this is exactly what I thought.
But I'm just going to ignore all these people and relish in the joy of having a new PJ song to listen to.
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yeah i think we get the point, do you really need to keep telling us you think its shit?
I only wanted to the once, but then the Trekkies started crawling out the woodwork and acting like I'd blasphemed their God and couldn't possibly be a fan, or open-minded, or have a legitimate opinion about the song other than that it was awesome.
Soulsinging wrote: You can't be serious. That song didn't have 1/1000th of the groove and soul KoL's weakest moments have. A younger audience hearing that is going to think "what the hell was that?" Yeah, the sound sucked, but that's not enough to obscure the fact that the song was weaker than hell. Ladies and gents... welcome to the latest in a long line (starting with gods' dice up through big wave) of half assed riff rockers that won't be played ever again after the album tour. No groove, no hook, no chorus, no decipherable lyrics, not even a verse as far as I could tell. This is everything I had hoped the new album would not be and feared it would be PJ... you're not teenagers anymore, quit trying to write lame punk songs that even teenagers would have the good sense to recognize as weak.
And who the hell thinks this is new? It sounds exactly like Comatose, take 2. Nothing modern about it. It's a half baked punk song with fancier drum fills.
Given your comments, Soulsinging, it seems that you dig nothing Pearl Jam have created in about a decade. Given your "fear" of unhappiness related to Pearl Jam, and given the fact that your fears have repeatedly come to fruition over the past decade, why are you still here? Why do you have a billion posts on the Pearl Jam message board? Do you like to be unhappy? Or, are you still holding out hope that Pearl Jam will miraculously make an album you like? I'm really just curious and I'm not trying to be smarty pants. I just find it interesting that you would be so dedicated to a group for such a long time, as they have caused you so much disappointment over such a long time.
For me, if I touch the hot stove and it burns my hand, then I'm not going to keep touching it for a decade. If I were you, I may consider joining a KOL message board or something and stay far away from The Porch. The Porch burns your feet apparently.
I'm only trying to help you overcome your "fears", or at least steer clear of them.
think some people are just miserable people. They don't like the meal they just ate. They don't like the movie they just watched. They don't like the book they just read. They hate their favorite football team. They didn't like Bush, but they sure as fuck don't like Obama. They're dating somebody, but they really don't like them.
I've come to realize some people just hate everything about everything, so why are we surprised they don't like this song?
I suppose there are some people here who genuinely didn't like the song (although I don't see how) or still don't realize that every new Pearl Jam song or record is somewhat of an acquired taste.
So you don't see how someone can have a different opinion than you ? Pretty funny. For the record, I was pretty disappointed last night and thought the vocals sounded horrible. I thought the music was okay, but Ed definitely seemed to be struggling. The bad mix didn't help at all After listening to the mp3 a couple of times, its grown on me but I wouldn't call it a favorite quite yet. I do agree with your acquired taste comment though!
About this song? Naw ... it rocked. Case closed
But seriously ... I could have predicted at this time yesterday ... 12 hours before the Conan performance aired ... that there would be people on this board the next day serving no other purpose than to shit all over everybody's buzz.
I could have even given you some names as to which posters would be the ones doing the shitting. You see them on various threads. They (apparently) are miserable pricks. And predictable miserable pricks at that. It's kind of sad actually.
If someone truly didn't like the song, cool. You can say that. It is America. But if a person is coming here just to shit all over everybody's buzz, he/she is just being a miserable prick.
No attempt to shit on people's buzzes here. If they believed their own bullshit as much as you claim, my not liking it wouldn't bother them as much as they do. I thought the song sucked, I was incredibly disappointed, and the song sounded exactly like the direction I've been hoping for years that the band would abandon but which all signs indicate they are going to pursue until the end of days. So yeah, it made me pretty miserable to hear it. But this is the "thoughts" thread. If you want to go mutually masturbate your love of this song, there's another thread for that around here. But it's quite pathetic how you all feel the need to ascribe someone's dislike of a given PJ to some deeply rooted character flaw on the part of the one holding the opinion. I'll repeat that last word: OPINION.
Alright kids, calm down. Everyone can have their own opinion, music is SUBJECTIVE.
I must have no musical taste whatsoever though soulsinging since I iked the song, and I love Comatose. Big Wave I could do without though....maybe there is hope for me after all.
Given your comments, Soulsinging, it seems that you dig nothing Pearl Jam have created in about a decade. Given your "fear" of unhappiness related to Pearl Jam, and given the fact that your fears have repeatedly come to fruition over the past decade, why are you still here? Why do you have a billion posts on the Pearl Jam message board? Do you like to be unhappy? Or, are you still holding out hope that Pearl Jam will miraculously make an album you like? I'm really just curious and I'm not trying to be smarty pants. I just find it interesting that you would be so dedicated to a group for such a long time, as they have caused you so much disappointment over such a long time.
For me, if I touch the hot stove and it burns my hand, then I'm not going to keep touching it for a decade. If I were you, I may consider joining a KOL message board or something and stay far away from The Porch. The Porch burns your feet apparently.
I'm only trying to help you overcome your "fears", or at least steer clear of them.
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It's true, they've released maybe one album's worth of strong new material over the last decade. So yeah, I AM a bit masochistic in that I keep coming back hoping to hear something that reaches me the way they used to and other bands still do. And that early stuff still DOES mean a lot to me.
As to why I still kick around here: 1) good tips in the other music sections 2) addicted to the political debate in the Moving Train. But fear not, I won't be here forever. I intend to let my membership expire next time around.
sorry all i didn't like the song. maybe i need to hear it again properly . ed seemed like he was straining with his vocals. cigarettes and wine will do that to you. hopefully this was an exception to what are usually great performances. the review in the toronto sun was the song was a stinker.
Alright kids, calm down. Everyone can have their own opinion, music is SUBJECTIVE.
I must have no musical taste whatsoever though soulsinging since I iked the song, and I love Comatose. Big Wave I could do without though....maybe there is hope for me after all.
That's about right. A good chunk of the fanbase is still onboard and they are going to love this song because they love this style. Personally, I hate the style. If you're big on punk, you'll love PJ these days. I'm not. Nothing wrong with either side, and I'm allowed to hang around and keep hoping I'll hear them get back to what I consider their strengths... strong baritone vocals, soulful solos, and a great funky rhythm section.
From Vitalogy to Yield they managed to experiment and push themselves while still capitalizing on their strengths I thought... they combined that guitar crunch with great grooves for songs like Tremor Christ and In My Tree. I don't think they do that anymore. There's nothing new about this song, it's just another fast, short, punky riff-rocker. I can live with them, but there are more and more of them every album and they're pretty well throwaways. Used to be one per album (stbc, hail hail, brain of j)... now there are 3-4-5 each album and they're complete filler to my mind. If you've liked those songs off the last few albums, you'll love this. But personally, I hate those songs (and I think the fact that most of them disappear from the setlists permanently without notice is a solid demonstration that they don't have much lasting power). We've had fan campaigns for Breath, Leash, Deep... I rather doubt you'd ever see such a campaign for this song, or for Gods' Dice, or for Big Wave.
The most memorable moments of the last few albums have all been the slow burners... songs like In Hiding, Of the Girl, NAIS, All or None. I feel they're at their strongest when they use that dynamic tension they do so well and take their time to let a song breathe and build. Some people get bored by that and want all songs sharp, short, and rocking with no jams. I'm not of that latter persuasion. Give me an epic Inside Job or a mind-blowing outro to Immortality or Present Tense or a great groove-based breakdown in Even Flow. Take your short little thrash numbers and hand them off to Good Charlotte
sorry all i didn't like the song. maybe i need to hear it again properly . ed seemed like he was straining with his vocals. cigarettes and wine will do that to you. hopefully this was an exception to what are usually great performances. the review in the toronto sun was the song was a stinker.
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8. Lastly, I was really fuckin surprised they had the album art and title out already.
My wife and I were talking about this, we think that is the 7" single for that song and not the actual album art. it has 7 letters at the top and the name of the song is 7 letters.
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As much as I SO dont want to agree with what Soulsinging says, I have to agree with his assessment. Granted his assessment (and everyone's else's) is based off one solitary performance of one song. Within that context however-- and it could be a function of the bad sound and/or bad vocal night for Ed -- it was disappointing. Still my favorite band but I agree with Soulsinging...most especially his impression of the word-spitting/growling/indecipherable lyrics style which I guess some are passing off for a punkish-style with rock influence ...or vice versa. That is a lot of what I didnt like about Riot Act (at least the indecipeherable/mumbling of lyrics part). I hope vocals last night (if not due to technical issues) was not an intentional style thing ala word-spitting/grumbling...
Maybe the studio album will be nothing like my impression. I just think of Not For You on SNL or even Life Wasted on Letterman in 2006 and this was on the other end of the spectrum for me.
PJ without a pronounced vocal contribution from the true original himself would not be 100% PJ to me--regardless of the song type (ballad, punk, etc) . Whether Last Exit, Red Mosiquito, Untitled/MFC they all possess that ---despite somewhat different song style,genre,tempo,etc.
Will be flying to Toronto in August with bells on so not a hater...I hope we can chalk this up to bad sound and/or (unintentional) bad vocals
The most memorable moments of the last few albums have all been the slow burners... songs like In Hiding, Of the Girl, NAIS, All or None. I feel they're at their strongest when they use that dynamic tension they do so well and take their time to let a song breathe and build. Some people get bored by that and want all songs sharp, short, and rocking with no jams. I'm not of that latter persuasion. Give me an epic Inside Job or a mind-blowing outro to Immortality or Present Tense or a great groove-based breakdown in Even Flow. Take your short little thrash numbers and hand them off to Good Charlotte
I actually tend to agree with that assessment, although i still enjoyed the hell out of the new song, especially the mp3 version. but that being said, when have the slow-burners ever been the songs used to promote new albums? the most popular songs on most of the albums have been my least favorites for whatever reason, so if that trend continues here, the new album should be great.
"Ah, life is a gate, a way, a path to Paradise anyway, why not live for fun and joy and love or some sort of girl by a fireside, why not go to your desire and LAUGH..."
The most memorable moments of the last few albums have all been the slow burners... songs like In Hiding, Of the Girl, NAIS, All or None. I feel they're at their strongest when they use that dynamic tension they do so well and take their time to let a song breathe and build. Some people get bored by that and want all songs sharp, short, and rocking with no jams. I'm not of that latter persuasion. Give me an epic Inside Job or a mind-blowing outro to Immortality or Present Tense or a great groove-based breakdown in Even Flow. Take your short little thrash numbers and hand them off to Good Charlotte
I actually tend to agree with that assessment, although i still enjoyed the hell out of the new song, especially the mp3 version. but that being said, when have the slow-burners ever been the songs used to promote new albums? the most popular songs on most of the albums have been my least favorites for whatever reason, so if that trend continues here, the new album should be great.
And I would agree if this were 10 years ago, when these short tunes were one, maybe two tracks on an album loaded with great album tracks for fans to discover. But more and more, there are 4-5 of these short tracks to only 1 or 2 of those great buried album songs, so you end up with an album with a lot of repetitive punkish filler and a few highlights in between. It's a bummer.
better than most of the stuff off their last one (with the exception of maybe severed hand).
i actually liked riot act better than their last one as it was more original to me......
hopefully they go back in the artsy direction with some of the other tracks like they did on binaural......
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PJ without a pronounced vocal contribution from the true original himself would not be 100% PJ to me--regardless of the song type (ballad, punk, etc) . Whether Last Exit, Red Mosiquito, Untitled/MFC they all possess that ---despite somewhat different song style,genre,tempo,etc.
Will be flying to Toronto in August with bells on so not a hater...I hope we can chalk this up to bad sound and/or (unintentional) bad vocals
That's another good point. PJ has hands down one of the best rock vocalists EVER. Why do they insist by squandering it with all these songs where he's reduced to doing little more than rapping essentially? Seriously, listen to the delivery. He's not singing, he's basically just speaking rhythmically twice as fast as some girl from The Hills, and throwing in a few growls or shouts to make it sound like it's rock singing. This is the guy that can silence a room with the power of his voice in songs like Black, or even All or None... why is he not singing!? Even in the earlier punk rockers... Brain of J, STBC, Last Exit... they managed to let Ed show of his voice a bit and get some real singing in around a fast, punchy riff rocker. That's fallen by the wayside lately :(
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So you don't see how someone can have a different opinion than you ? Pretty funny. For the record, I was pretty disappointed last night and thought the vocals sounded horrible. I thought the music was okay, but Ed definitely seemed to be struggling. The bad mix didn't help at all After listening to the mp3 a couple of times, its grown on me but I wouldn't call it a favorite quite yet. I do agree with your acquired taste comment though!
Song was decent but need to hear it with better sound; who knows about the album but as always I'm fuckin' excited to have something new coming...don't want to hear the same old PJ all the time either---they're pushing the limits and sometimes it's great, sometimes it's not. We will see, looking forward to it.
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About this song? Naw ... it rocked. Case closed
But seriously ... I could have predicted at this time yesterday ... 12 hours before the Conan performance aired ... that there would be people on this board the next day serving no other purpose than to shit all over everybody's buzz.
I could have even given you some names as to which posters would be the ones doing the shitting. You see them on various threads. They (apparently) are miserable pricks. And predictable miserable pricks at that. It's kind of sad actually.
If someone truly didn't like the song, cool. You can say that. It is America. But if a person is coming here just to shit all over everybody's buzz, he/she is just being a miserable prick.
for the least they could possibly do
hats off for the post of the day
I'll tell you what I think happened with Ed. The band had had a soundcheck, and the sound engineer had said, "Right, I have the levels sorted out." Sometime between the soundcheck and the performance, the levels had been altered and Ed was having to get up on tip-toes to belt out the song. Also, I'm wondering if the studio version is a little slower and they played a bit too fast for Ed to get all the syllables out in the groove to which he's accustomed? I'm thinking they were a little nervous, and there were a couple of minor glitches. However, all in all the performance was a triumph. The song sounds fine, direct, and pop-rocky. The band weren't 'phoning this one in. They were really rocking: maybe even a little too much!
I'm really excited to see where they take this new album soundwise and musically. EVERY pj album is unique and yes "Binaural took me 4 yrs to appreciate fully. Now if Pearl jam ever made an album like Chris Cornell's "scream" I'd be really worried. While I respect a bands decision to go in a different direction the pop dance club sound did not work for Chris. At least pearl jam has not done that yet.
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gimme some time to digest like someone else mentioned
don't go there looking for new information, it's just a quick recap of the song and the Target news from yesterday. but if you want to check out the blog in general, it's here: http://www.944.com/blog/crus-daily-rock ... -on-conan/
at the end of the day, just trying to publicize the band a bit more. 944 Magazine is not exactly a rock and roll magazine, but i was asked by the publisher to start blogging on there to expand the musical flavor on a daily basis. what better topic for today than my favorite band?
i can just tell that the studio version is going to sound great, it almost sounds as if it could have been taken from the yield days
Thank you! I couldn't put it into words but this is exactly what I thought.
But I'm just going to ignore all these people and relish in the joy of having a new PJ song to listen to.
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I only wanted to the once, but then the Trekkies started crawling out the woodwork and acting like I'd blasphemed their God and couldn't possibly be a fan, or open-minded, or have a legitimate opinion about the song other than that it was awesome.
You can't be serious. That song didn't have 1/1000th of the groove and soul KoL's weakest moments have. A younger audience hearing that is going to think "what the hell was that?" Yeah, the sound sucked, but that's not enough to obscure the fact that the song was weaker than hell. Ladies and gents... welcome to the latest in a long line (starting with gods' dice up through big wave) of half assed riff rockers that won't be played ever again after the album tour. No groove, no hook, no chorus, no decipherable lyrics, not even a verse as far as I could tell. This is everything I had hoped the new album would not be and feared it would be PJ... you're not teenagers anymore, quit trying to write lame punk songs that even teenagers would have the good sense to recognize as weak.
And who the hell thinks this is new? It sounds exactly like Comatose, take 2. Nothing modern about it. It's a half baked punk song with fancier drum fills.
Given your comments, Soulsinging, it seems that you dig nothing Pearl Jam have created in about a decade. Given your "fear" of unhappiness related to Pearl Jam, and given the fact that your fears have repeatedly come to fruition over the past decade, why are you still here? Why do you have a billion posts on the Pearl Jam message board? Do you like to be unhappy? Or, are you still holding out hope that Pearl Jam will miraculously make an album you like? I'm really just curious and I'm not trying to be smarty pants. I just find it interesting that you would be so dedicated to a group for such a long time, as they have caused you so much disappointment over such a long time.
For me, if I touch the hot stove and it burns my hand, then I'm not going to keep touching it for a decade. If I were you, I may consider joining a KOL message board or something and stay far away from The Porch. The Porch burns your feet apparently.
I'm only trying to help you overcome your "fears", or at least steer clear of them.
Best wishes,
Police Man
No attempt to shit on people's buzzes here. If they believed their own bullshit as much as you claim, my not liking it wouldn't bother them as much as they do. I thought the song sucked, I was incredibly disappointed, and the song sounded exactly like the direction I've been hoping for years that the band would abandon but which all signs indicate they are going to pursue until the end of days. So yeah, it made me pretty miserable to hear it. But this is the "thoughts" thread. If you want to go mutually masturbate your love of this song, there's another thread for that around here. But it's quite pathetic how you all feel the need to ascribe someone's dislike of a given PJ to some deeply rooted character flaw on the part of the one holding the opinion. I'll repeat that last word: OPINION.
I must have no musical taste whatsoever though soulsinging since I iked the song, and I love Comatose. Big Wave I could do without though....maybe there is hope for me after all.
It's true, they've released maybe one album's worth of strong new material over the last decade. So yeah, I AM a bit masochistic in that I keep coming back hoping to hear something that reaches me the way they used to and other bands still do. And that early stuff still DOES mean a lot to me.
As to why I still kick around here: 1) good tips in the other music sections 2) addicted to the political debate in the Moving Train. But fear not, I won't be here forever. I intend to let my membership expire next time around.
That's about right. A good chunk of the fanbase is still onboard and they are going to love this song because they love this style. Personally, I hate the style. If you're big on punk, you'll love PJ these days. I'm not. Nothing wrong with either side, and I'm allowed to hang around and keep hoping I'll hear them get back to what I consider their strengths... strong baritone vocals, soulful solos, and a great funky rhythm section.
From Vitalogy to Yield they managed to experiment and push themselves while still capitalizing on their strengths I thought... they combined that guitar crunch with great grooves for songs like Tremor Christ and In My Tree. I don't think they do that anymore. There's nothing new about this song, it's just another fast, short, punky riff-rocker. I can live with them, but there are more and more of them every album and they're pretty well throwaways. Used to be one per album (stbc, hail hail, brain of j)... now there are 3-4-5 each album and they're complete filler to my mind. If you've liked those songs off the last few albums, you'll love this. But personally, I hate those songs (and I think the fact that most of them disappear from the setlists permanently without notice is a solid demonstration that they don't have much lasting power). We've had fan campaigns for Breath, Leash, Deep... I rather doubt you'd ever see such a campaign for this song, or for Gods' Dice, or for Big Wave.
The most memorable moments of the last few albums have all been the slow burners... songs like In Hiding, Of the Girl, NAIS, All or None. I feel they're at their strongest when they use that dynamic tension they do so well and take their time to let a song breathe and build. Some people get bored by that and want all songs sharp, short, and rocking with no jams. I'm not of that latter persuasion. Give me an epic Inside Job or a mind-blowing outro to Immortality or Present Tense or a great groove-based breakdown in Even Flow. Take your short little thrash numbers and hand them off to Good Charlotte
Wow...get off Caleb's cock or actually stay on it. KoL is a joke and their sex is on fire HAHAHAHAHAHA. What a shit song that is.
"The musical guest was Pearl Jam. It actually would have been far more exciting if Pearl Jam had been Leno's first musical guest back in 1992. And that song they played last night? Stinker city. "
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http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment ... ll_harris/
My wife and I were talking about this, we think that is the 7" single for that song and not the actual album art. it has 7 letters at the top and the name of the song is 7 letters.
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Maybe the studio album will be nothing like my impression. I just think of Not For You on SNL or even Life Wasted on Letterman in 2006 and this was on the other end of the spectrum for me.
PJ without a pronounced vocal contribution from the true original himself would not be 100% PJ to me--regardless of the song type (ballad, punk, etc) . Whether Last Exit, Red Mosiquito, Untitled/MFC they all possess that ---despite somewhat different song style,genre,tempo,etc.
Will be flying to Toronto in August with bells on so not a hater...I hope we can chalk this up to bad sound and/or (unintentional) bad vocals
I actually tend to agree with that assessment, although i still enjoyed the hell out of the new song, especially the mp3 version. but that being said, when have the slow-burners ever been the songs used to promote new albums? the most popular songs on most of the albums have been my least favorites for whatever reason, so if that trend continues here, the new album should be great.
And I would agree if this were 10 years ago, when these short tunes were one, maybe two tracks on an album loaded with great album tracks for fans to discover. But more and more, there are 4-5 of these short tracks to only 1 or 2 of those great buried album songs, so you end up with an album with a lot of repetitive punkish filler and a few highlights in between. It's a bummer.
i actually liked riot act better than their last one as it was more original to me......
hopefully they go back in the artsy direction with some of the other tracks like they did on binaural......
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That's another good point. PJ has hands down one of the best rock vocalists EVER. Why do they insist by squandering it with all these songs where he's reduced to doing little more than rapping essentially? Seriously, listen to the delivery. He's not singing, he's basically just speaking rhythmically twice as fast as some girl from The Hills, and throwing in a few growls or shouts to make it sound like it's rock singing. This is the guy that can silence a room with the power of his voice in songs like Black, or even All or None... why is he not singing!? Even in the earlier punk rockers... Brain of J, STBC, Last Exit... they managed to let Ed show of his voice a bit and get some real singing in around a fast, punchy riff rocker. That's fallen by the wayside lately :(