Gay Marriage Ban

JonnyPistachio

MayDay10 thanks for those stats -- the trends will continue.
And Puremagic, you're hired as the AMT official lawyer. Makes sense to me.

ComeToTX

pandora wrote:

ComeToTX wrote:

Slavery happened in our past. We changed that. It's really not that difficult. The longer it goes on the more embarrassed we will be about it later.

that was a war though :shock:

and the rest of the world only 10 nations accept gay unions, only 6 states here
there is a long way to go ...
give equal rights to gay civil unions today!

Ok. Civil Rights then. Let's only go back a few decades. There's zero difference.

MayDay10

the wolf wrote:

So where are all these "preservers of marriage"?

they meet weekly in someone's tree fort in East bumfuck Alabama.

JonnyPistachio

MayDay10 wrote:

the wolf wrote:

So where are all these "preservers of marriage"?

they meet weekly in someone's tree fort in East bumfuck Alabama.

Don't give tree forts a bad name!

JonnyPistachio

JonnyPistachio wrote:

If some new term, or civil union is created (lets face it, that wont happen though) for equal rights for gay marriage (for discussions sake)...lets call it EGAIRRAM...that will be the gay marriage term (of equal rights).

If EGAIRRAM is passed, I promise to legally divorce my wife and get re-unionized with her under federal or state EGAIRRAM. Will straight people be allowed to marry under this new definition/term??

This doesnt sound like it makes a lot of sense^^^...
...but I’d be willing to abandon traditional marriage if a new type union is created, especially if traditional marriage is in the business of excluding people.

catefrances

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

..
I am also for equal rights for all and am very fine with marriage remaining as it was intended to be between a man and a woman ... I would cast for my vote for that today if it meant equal rights for gay unions
right now and stop the marriage battle. I have a feeling others would do the same.

The light is not what you think

and there we have it folks.... finally. pandora isnt a marriage preserver but she thinks marriage should remain the dominion of man-woman couples.

thanx for the clarity.

I just saw this, really :nono:
fair minded as always with the wrong clarity I might add
one that fits what you want to think ....

so thought I would point out my remarks in color there

never said should and said I would cast my vote today if it meant equal rights for gay unions,
and yes it would be a wonderful victory at hand! I think it would fit nicely right here
with Obama's recent move and it would be historical.

seems clear to me that you think the term marriage should only pertain to marriage between a man and a woman. what is it im missing here?

strilo

pandora wrote:

I am not seeing it a totally religious division
and I have no idea how it plays out by political persuasion.

There are two charts showing poll numbers on those exact breakdowns, religion and political party. Let me repost:

whygohome

strilo wrote:

pandora wrote:

I am not seeing it a totally religious division
and I have no idea how it plays out by political persuasion.

There are two charts showing poll numbers on those exact breakdowns, religion and political party. Let me repost:

Thanks for that. I'm a littler surprised by the Catholic support.

pandora

catefrances wrote:

seems clear to me that you think the term marriage should only pertain to marriage between a man and a woman. what is it im missing here?

Wrong again that is what preservers of marriage believe not me
but you hear only what you want to hear.

You also think I am not pro gay marriage wrong again!
I am mostly pro gay rights though
and don't want to have my friends waiting any longer for their civil union equal rights,
they have waited a lifetime already.

pandora

ComeToTX wrote:

pandora wrote:

ComeToTX wrote:

Slavery happened in our past. We changed that. It's really not that difficult. The longer it goes on the more embarrassed we will be about it later.

that was a war though :shock:

and the rest of the world only 10 nations accept gay unions, only 6 states here
there is a long way to go ...
give equal rights to gay civil unions today!

Ok. Civil Rights then. Let's only go back a few decades. There's zero difference.

totally agree

strilo

You agree but you are advocating the "separate but equal" option. How is that good?

pandora

The stats are great ...
I too was surprised how close the religious support was for Catholics.

I guess marriage is considered a religious thing for many more than I had imagined,
I have never felt that way.

It was a matter of lifetime love for us, something my gay friends have shared but
without the benefit of even a civil gay union. I hope they will at least have this soon at
this late stage in life.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

pandora

strilo wrote:

You agree but you are advocating the "separate but equal" option. How is that good?

I am advocating rights now you would like to wait for the whole cookie jar...
thats is fine but I have friends who can not wait
and deserve equal civil gay union rights more than 25 years into their relationship!
It is personal for me and I see an extended battle for the young while some of
the older couples may need something else now.

Newch91

Bill Donohue, for you, ladies and gentlemen. :thumbdown:

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/1 ... criminate/

ComeToTX

Newch91 wrote:

Bill Donohue, for you, ladies and gentlemen. :thumbdown:

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/1 ... criminate/

Sounds like a fun guy.

norm

Newch91 wrote:

Bill Donohue, for you, ladies and gentlemen. :thumbdown:

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/1 ... criminate/

between this and the bristol link, you're batting a thousand posting links to major assholes today

Newch91

norm wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Bill Donohue, for you, ladies and gentlemen. :thumbdown:

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/1 ... criminate/

between this and the bristol link, you're batting a thousand posting links to major assholes today

I think today I got your job.

I was going to post one by Santorum, but that one was pretty predictable.

Prince Of Dorkness

This really has been one of the best reads going.

Thanks. I've had a pretty rough week and coming home to this has been... pretty nice.

And when I can renew my vows here in America... I want Pearl Jam to play and y'all to come.

norm

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

This really has been one of the best reads going.

Thanks. I've had a pretty rough week and coming home to this has been... pretty nice.

And when I can renew my vows here in America... I want Pearl Jam to play and y'all to come.

home? aren't you heading over the hill to george's to hang with the prez?