Why? Is it not the union of two people in love who wish to have a fulfilling life together, with all the ups and downs of a marriage? Apart from the sex aspect (and procreation), how so different is it to a man/woman marriage?
I did mention custody rights, adoption rights, alimony rights.
In what? 90% of marriages MOTHER has custody in a divorce? Dad pays support and alimony? Correct me if I am wrong.
What are the same sex marriage laws? Are there any in place? Again, I have no idea, so maybe somebody can educate me here.
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Why? Is it not the union of two people in love who wish to have a fulfilling life together, with all the ups and downs of a marriage? Apart from the sex aspect (and procreation), how so different is it to a man/woman marriage?
I did mention custody rights, adoption rights, alimony rights.
In what? 90% of marriages MOTHER has custody in a divorce? Dad pays support and alimony? Correct me if I am wrong.
What are the same sex marriage laws? Are there any in place? Again, I have no idea, so maybe somebody can educate me here.
custody, alimony etc. is decided on a case by case basis.
As far as I know, in states where there same-sex marriages are recognized, there's no special laws that are put into place for "same-sex marriage."
And ALL current laws regarding marriage, alimony, child support, custody, etc. All stay in place?
Think about it a second....
It doesnt and WONT work.
It is FAR FROM A MARRIAGE LIKE ANY OTHER!
There is not any law that I am aware of that says.....
the woman has the right to THIS....the man has the right to THAT
see, that would be sexual discrimination so you won't find a law that says that.
....they only refer to "spouse" so it could be the man or the woman..
therefore there would be no changes to the written laws themselves....
Why? Is it not the union of two people in love who wish to have a fulfilling life together, with all the ups and downs of a marriage? Apart from the sex aspect (and procreation), how so different is it to a man/woman marriage?
I did mention custody rights, adoption rights, alimony rights.
In what? 90% of marriages MOTHER has custody in a divorce? Dad pays support and alimony? Correct me if I am wrong.
What are the same sex marriage laws? Are there any in place? Again, I have no idea, so maybe somebody can educate me here.
It would be exactly the same as in all divorce cases.
In Britain, gay civil partnerships have ALL the same rights of a woman/man married couple who had a civil marriage (ie not married in a church), including divorce issues.
Speedy, your article is an argument in SUPPORT of gay marriages.
The only reason that there are problems in divorce as the article outlines is beause the law DOES NOT recognize gay marriage as it does other marriages.
I mentioned that in the UK, civil partnerships (ie same sex 'unions') conferred the same legal rights as civil marriage (hetero 'unions').
This does not mean that gays find their partnerships 'equal' as gay 'marriage' is still not legal. A few years back, a same sex couple who married in Canada were not able to have their marriage recognised as such here. What they want is 'equal marriage' (we're not talking religious marriages here).
I know that some will not understand what it means for those involved but the 'EQUAL' bit is important - it's full recognition.
Thank you all for not calling me a bigot, or an asshole....
And thank you for also seeing things my way! hehehe
and thank you for losing gracefully ! :wave:
hey....mother's day is tomorrow....
I didnt realize it was a game.
There are winners and Losers here?
Well the Federal government of the USA does NOT recognize same sex marriages.....
You are losing your battle my friend!!!!
But keep up the fight!
Just dont parade around in your underwear like those videos I showed here earlier...
Because middle America will NEVER give you their support. hehehe
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Thank you all for not calling me a bigot, or an asshole....
And thank you for also seeing things my way! hehehe
and thank you for losing gracefully ! :wave:
hey....mother's day is tomorrow....
I didnt realize it was a game.
There are winners and Losers here?
Well the Federal government of the USA does NOT recognize same sex marriages.....
You are losing your battle my friend!!!!
But keep up the fight!
Just dont parade around in your underwear like those videos I showed here earlier...
Because middle America will NEVER give you their support. hehehe
you're right.
in order to lose an argument, you have to have one to begin with.
You didn't have any argument at all, except for that which is discriminatory in nature.
P.S. I would need a bra and underwear in a parade :P
sometimes I think that's part of the problem... gay pride parades don't really have anything to do with rights for homosexuals gaining marriage rights and equality. The homophobe aspect is the real issue. (which, to me, is how it is analogous to the civil rights movement of black people, and, as redrock mentioned, the women's suffrage movement).
I didnt realize it was a game.
There are winners and Losers here?
Well the Federal government of the USA does NOT recognize same sex marriages.....
You are losing your battle my friend!!!!
But keep up the fight!
Just dont parade around in your underwear like those videos I showed here earlier...
Because middle America will NEVER give you their support. hehehe
what does, "hehehe" mean at the end of eack of your posts?
he he he as in 3 men?
or
he he he as in a high pitch bit of laughter
and if so where is the comedy?
I didnt realize it was a game.
There are winners and Losers here?
Well the Federal government of the USA does NOT recognize same sex marriages.....
You are losing your battle my friend!!!!
But keep up the fight!
Just dont parade around in your underwear like those videos I showed here earlier...
Because middle America will NEVER give you their support. hehehe
what does, "hehehe" mean at the end of eack of your posts?
he he he as in 3 men?
or
he he he as in a high pitch bit of laughter
and if so where is the comedy?
in order to lose an argument, you have to have one to begin with.
You didn't have any argument at all, except for that which is discriminatory in nature.
P.S. I would need a bra and underwear in a parade :P
If YOU and a few others here, are a spokesperson for the gay community and same sex marriage....
YOU have alot of work ahead of you!!
And now I will use a winkie smiley face to make it all good!!!
I meant my winkie smiley in a genuine sense, because you can't please all the people all the time, and I believe what I said in that (my personal) post, but I corrected it. wasn't trying to condescend.
and some here speak of middle america never accepting gays.
funny....
i wonder how many homosexual men and women live in chicago nearby speedy mccready? how many gay men and women are in the trucking/transporting industry and load/unload and order speedy mccready and mickrat around like dogs? speedy's boss and dispatcher and brocher are probably extremely midwestern gay men who would enjoy being an equal
the midwest is riddled w/ gay people just like the east coast or west coast. the southern states are filled w/ gays. i don't see a problem.
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In what? 90% of marriages MOTHER has custody in a divorce? Dad pays support and alimony? Correct me if I am wrong.
What are the same sex marriage laws? Are there any in place? Again, I have no idea, so maybe somebody can educate me here.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
custody, alimony etc. is decided on a case by case basis.
As far as I know, in states where there same-sex marriages are recognized, there's no special laws that are put into place for "same-sex marriage."
They are just considered marriages period.
Why are you?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
There is not any law that I am aware of that says.....
the woman has the right to THIS....the man has the right to THAT
see, that would be sexual discrimination so you won't find a law that says that.
....they only refer to "spouse" so it could be the man or the woman..
therefore there would be no changes to the written laws themselves....
It would be exactly the same as in all divorce cases.
In Britain, gay civil partnerships have ALL the same rights of a woman/man married couple who had a civil marriage (ie not married in a church), including divorce issues.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... MrLd2zMBpQ
No it wouldnt.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
It would if the law changed. All states and federal.
Speedy, your article is an argument in SUPPORT of gay marriages.
The only reason that there are problems in divorce as the article outlines is beause the law DOES NOT recognize gay marriage as it does other marriages.
Laws need to be changed!
Same Sex marriage isnt going to happen over-night!
hehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
red rock meant one law.
the law that says gay can marry
in all states
and federal.
I mentioned that in the UK, civil partnerships (ie same sex 'unions') conferred the same legal rights as civil marriage (hetero 'unions').
This does not mean that gays find their partnerships 'equal' as gay 'marriage' is still not legal. A few years back, a same sex couple who married in Canada were not able to have their marriage recognised as such here. What they want is 'equal marriage' (we're not talking religious marriages here).
I know that some will not understand what it means for those involved but the 'EQUAL' bit is important - it's full recognition.
are you against same-sex marriages because you think alimony or divorce laws differentiate between man and woman, which they don't?
anything else?
Yeah, it may take a little effort. Is that a reason for not doing it?
Yes - thank you.
Double post for some reason!
I am off to celebrate Mothers Day....
Thank you all for not calling me a bigot, or an asshole....
And thank you for also seeing things my way! hehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
and thank you for losing gracefully ! :wave:
hey....mother's day is tomorrow....
There are winners and Losers here?
Well the Federal government of the USA does NOT recognize same sex marriages.....
You are losing your battle my friend!!!!
But keep up the fight!
Just dont parade around in your underwear like those videos I showed here earlier...
Because middle America will NEVER give you their support. hehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
you're right.
in order to lose an argument, you have to have one to begin with.
You didn't have any argument at all, except for that which is discriminatory in nature.
P.S. I would need a bra and underwear in a parade :P
he he he as in 3 men?
or
he he he as in a high pitch bit of laughter
and if so where is the comedy?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
If YOU and a few others here, are a spokesperson for the gay community and same sex marriage....
YOU have alot of work ahead of you!!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
don't forget to add your notorious, "hehehe" men or high pitch laughter
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
If discrimination is the face of middle America, you are correct
Imagine that.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
You just cant help yourselves....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
funny....
i wonder how many homosexual men and women live in chicago nearby speedy mccready? how many gay men and women are in the trucking/transporting industry and load/unload and order speedy mccready and mickrat around like dogs? speedy's boss and dispatcher and brocher are probably extremely midwestern gay men who would enjoy being an equal
the midwest is riddled w/ gay people just like the east coast or west coast. the southern states are filled w/ gays. i don't see a problem.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce