What do people think of "Avocado"

blondieblue227

pjsteelerfan wrote:

I still think it was their best albulm since Yield.

Ditto.

But it needs to be remastered...like.......now!
And I’m no audio expert, I just know it can sound way better.

Given to... wrote:

I am the worse at remembering lyrics, and its kinda sad that the first lines that actually stuck in my head were about some dumb ass crustacean in an underwater nation...

lmao!

________________

i see a lot you like to crank it. i think it sounds like total shit cranked up. it's a shame too because it's so high energy.

Rjonesrm20

like riot act better, avacado is my least favorite pj album but still has some great songs.
they also take on a new life live in concert, almost like certain songs were only meant to be played live, kinda hard to explain!

still alive in epsom

I have a love/hate relationship with avocado. I find myself skipping when I listen to the CD in the car. But stick inside job on then put the rest of the album on shuffle, it gives it a whole new complexion. I think most of it's problems come in the ordering of the songs.

I cant believe people are bitching bout the packaging too, I think its genius; the avocado with the stone on the front, it empty on the back with the CD being the stone, its so perfect, the music is the centre, the core. PJ are our centres!

Better Dan

EBowie wrote:

I've been a member of the fan club/message board for a long-ass time. A trend that I have seen around here is to shit on the most recent album and declare the previous far superior. When Binaural came out people were crapping all over it---everyone was longing for Yield. Then Riot Act came out, people were deciding what to make of it, then after some time passed Riot Act became the trendy album to shit on---Binaural was now a "masterpiece". Now people shit on Avocado and declare Riot Act superior. Does anyone else see this the way I'm describing. I think what we have is the old cliche---"the grass is always greener on the other side". Bottom line: they're all good; they're all different.

PS---when I use a word such as everyone, of course there is a degree of exageration. So if you feel your blood pressure going up while reading my post, just relax---everything will be ok.

I've noticed the same thing! I'm kind've surprised each time I read a post where someone says they love Binaural or Riot Act. Not because they are horrible albums, but because I remember when they came out it seemed like they were almost universally bashed.

redeye

personally, advocado is still a great album, but vocally i dont think its the best..
come back is awesome, while army reserve is one of my fav pj tracks of all time
while im here, i think riot act is awesome album to, cant keep is cool as, save you, cropduster,
i love get right for its looseness, and you are is HUGE!!!!!
:evil:

81

i like it. good rocking album. between world wide suicide and severed hand you've got a solid album. parachutes is a nice little diddy. comatose completes me.

DS1119

There's not a bad song on the album in my opinion. Maybe my opinion will change in another couple of years however.

thisisthisisthisisthisis

Sounds dated already and I have no idea why Jeff even attempted to play on this album.. You can't hear him ever.


The elephant in the room for the past ten years is why did someone cut off Jeff's amp?

thisisthisisthisisthisis

EBowie wrote:

I've been a member of the fan club/message board for a long-ass time. A trend that I have seen around here is to shit on the most recent album and declare the previous far superior. When Binaural came out people were crapping all over it---everyone was longing for Yield. Then Riot Act came out, people were deciding what to make of it, then after some time passed Riot Act became the trendy album to shit on---Binaural was now a "masterpiece". Now people shit on Avocado and declare Riot Act superior. Does anyone else see this the way I'm describing. I think what we have is the old cliche---"the grass is always greener on the other side". Bottom line: they're all good; they're all different.

PS---when I use a word such as everyone, of course there is a degree of exageration. So if you feel your blood pressure going up while reading my post, just relax---everything will be ok.

Backspacer is ten times better than Avocado and I think most sane human beings would agree.

81

thisisthisisthisisthisis wrote:

EBowie wrote:

I've been a member of the fan club/message board for a long-ass time. A trend that I have seen around here is to shit on the most recent album and declare the previous far superior. When Binaural came out people were crapping all over it---everyone was longing for Yield. Then Riot Act came out, people were deciding what to make of it, then after some time passed Riot Act became the trendy album to shit on---Binaural was now a "masterpiece". Now people shit on Avocado and declare Riot Act superior. Does anyone else see this the way I'm describing. I think what we have is the old cliche---"the grass is always greener on the other side". Bottom line: they're all good; they're all different.

PS---when I use a word such as everyone, of course there is a degree of exageration. So if you feel your blood pressure going up while reading my post, just relax---everything will be ok.

Backspacer is ten times better than Avocado and I think most sane human beings would agree.

i guess i'm not sane

thisisthisisthisisthisis

81 wrote:

thisisthisisthisisthisis wrote:

EBowie wrote:

I've been a member of the fan club/message board for a long-ass time. A trend that I have seen around here is to shit on the most recent album and declare the previous far superior. When Binaural came out people were crapping all over it---everyone was longing for Yield. Then Riot Act came out, people were deciding what to make of it, then after some time passed Riot Act became the trendy album to shit on---Binaural was now a "masterpiece". Now people shit on Avocado and declare Riot Act superior. Does anyone else see this the way I'm describing. I think what we have is the old cliche---"the grass is always greener on the other side". Bottom line: they're all good; they're all different.

PS---when I use a word such as everyone, of course there is a degree of exageration. So if you feel your blood pressure going up while reading my post, just relax---everything will be ok.

Backspacer is ten times better than Avocado and I think most sane human beings would agree.

i guess i'm not sane

Maybe deaf? I kid.

81

for sure half deaf.

still, song for song, avacado is the better record...imo of course.

you can rank them different, but know you are wrong. :P

thisisthisisthisisthisis

81 wrote:

for sure half deaf.

still, song for song, avacado is the better record...imo of course.

you can rank them different, but know you are wrong. :P

I was kidding throughout this post. I hate "ranking" or pretending that music isn't a different experience for everyone.

I think backspacer was fresh and not forced. I saw the self titled record and Riot Act as forced and predictable.

81

thisisthisisthisisthisis wrote:

81 wrote:

for sure half deaf.

still, song for song, avacado is the better record...imo of course.

you can rank them different, but know you are wrong. :P

I was kidding throughout this post. I hate "ranking" or pretending that music isn't a different experience for everyone.

I think backspacer was fresh and not forced. I saw the self titled record and Riot Act as forced and predictable.

it's all good...i was kidding as well.

enjoy

petesopete

I recently rediscovered it and I believe it has aged very well... and Inside Job is an epic closing song.

mfc2006

petesopete wrote:

I recently rediscovered it and I believe it has aged very well... and Inside Job is an epic closing song.

i agree....i hadn't listened to it much in the last year or so. just listened to the vinyl & WOW. :shock:

my favorites:
Marker, Parachutes, Inside Job, Army Reserve

MSnider44

thisisthisisthisisthisis wrote:

Sounds dated already and I have no idea why Jeff even attempted to play on this album.. You can't hear him ever.


The elephant in the room for the past ten years is why did someone cut off Jeff's amp?

Maybe the future O'Brien remixes / remasters will fix this problem. Jeff's best bass: No Code. Especially on Hail, Hail. Turn the low end up on your system and you'll hear what I'm talkin' about.

mfc2006

MSnider44 wrote:

Maybe the future O'Brien remixes / remasters will fix this problem. Jeff's best bass: No Code. Especially on Hail, Hail. Turn the low end up on your system and you'll hear what I'm talkin' about.

his bass sound is AMAZING on No Code.....

justam

I like the Avocado as a whole and some of the songs I LOVE.

The Waiting Trophy Man

I listened to it a lot when it came out, but I rarely ever listen to it anymore. I don't think it's a bad album, and it's certainly better than Riot Act. I just never listen to it. Once in a while I'll play something like Parachutes or Life Wasted, but that's about it. I never understood why it was a self-titled album either? It definitely had a war theme going throughout the record and should have been given a proper title. Just my 2 cents.

RFTC

this album dated 'somewhat' poorly for me, i remember listening to avocado on way to nola for jazzfest-10 and thought wtf happened? production was brick i.e. compressed and fewer of the songs stood out, sans marker in the sand, come back, inside job.

i wrestled w/that impression vs initial which were more positive and fk yes PJ has returned to rocking.

this is not a bad thing, albums that evolve-devolve can be most intriguing over course of time, see stones mid-70's albums...

Wobbie

it's at least 10x better than backspacer :shh:

pkh43

top three for me. No Code. Avocado & Binaural all interchangeable.

futures_above

It's definitely in my top 3 as well, possibly favorite even. I just really love a lot of the songs on there and it was the CD that came out shortly after I finally started to dive into this wonderful obsession. :ugeek: I always loved the band and their songs but the last 5 years or so have really ramped up my passion for them.

fox_mulderX

it didn't suck
it wasn't great
it just hangs around in the middle

i liked it a lot more when it was first released because it sounded completely different than riot act

RiotZact

My favorite album ever thats what I think of it!

DS1119

RiotZact wrote:

My favorite album ever thats what I think of it!

Don't you have a dirty frank thread to bump? Now go!

TroubledSoul

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

I was so "FIRED UP" when Pearl Jam released this album(after the Riot Act disaster).....

but i was soon disappointed.....a few good songs but nothing spectacular....

this seems to sum it up for many (most?) people.

wws was ok, marker was ok, inside job is great.

but man, theres certainly some filler in there. i still havent got over that unemployable shania twain cover.

DewieCox

Quite a bit better than Backspacer, not quite as good as Riot Act.

My rankings go something like this

Ten-Binaural
Riot Act
S/T







Backspacer

The Oracle

Been listening to the 2006 boots this month, which has rekindled my love for this album. The whole album is underrated.