What do people think of "Avocado"

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Boston Lou
Boston Lou Posts: 280
edited August 2013 in The Porch
knowing that i frequent this place

My friend asked me last night what PJ fans thought of "Avocado" almost 3 years later

and I really couldn't answer him...

so

What is your opinion of Pearl Jam/Avocado?

Thanks!!
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    I still think it was their best albulm since Yield.
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  • TheDecline13
    TheDecline13 Posts: 990
    70% of that record is gold...
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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    I think it was a breath of fresh air. While I love many songs on Riot Act and Binaural, they never felt like "albums" to me. I wouldn't just play the album all the way thru. Avocado was the first in a long time that was cohesive as an album.
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,827
    I was so "FIRED UP" when Pearl Jam released this album(after the Riot Act disaster).....

    but i was soon disappointed.....a few good songs but nothing spectacular....
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  • QuarterToTen
    QuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,649
    not a fan. although i tried my damnedest to love it,
    it just doesn't do it for me.
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  • LoveBoatAdmiral
    LoveBoatAdmiral Posts: 1,191
    I guess I'll be the first to say I was a little dissapointed (guess Speedy beat me to it. I type slow). I love Come Back, Inside Job and Army Reserve, but songs like WWS and Unemployable still don't feel like "PJ songs" to me.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    I was so "FIRED UP" when Pearl Jam released this album(after the Riot Act disaster).....

    but i was soon disappointed.....a few good songs but nothing spectacular....

    That about sums it up for me. It was a definite step up from Riot Act, and when it first came out I thought it was awesome. Now it's just pretty good. There are some real great songs on it (I think WWS is the best song they've done since Yield), but also some songs that wore thin pretty quick. As an album, it doesn't flow well for me either.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,259
    LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:
    I guess I'll be the first to say I was a little dissapointed. I love Come Back, Inside Job and Army Reserve, but songs like WWS and Unemployable still don't feel like "PJ songs" to me.

    I absolutely LOVE Unemployable (if he can't sleep, how will he ever dream?). For me, it's one of the most "visualizable" songs they've ever written.

    I like the whole album, with only one exception......Parachutes is absolute dreck! :(
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  • Ryan_WFC
    Ryan_WFC Posts: 1,353
    soulsinging wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    I was so "FIRED UP" when Pearl Jam released this album(after the Riot Act disaster).....

    but i was soon disappointed.....a few good songs but nothing spectacular....

    That about sums it up for me. It was a definite step up from Riot Act, and when it first came out I thought it was awesome. Now it's just pretty good. There are some real great songs on it (I think WWS is the best song they've done since Yield), but also some songs that wore thin pretty quick. As an album, it doesn't flow well for me either.

    Agreed. I also don't think the sound production is good; it sounds like a dubbed cassette.
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  • MFC9289
    MFC9289 Posts: 144
    I think it's absolutely phenomenal and I love every song. People may criticize it for not being "experimental" enough, or some of the songs, (i.e. Big Wave, Comatose) might not have the "significance" people think they want. But it's a kickass, straight-forward rock record, which is what they intended, and, in my opinion, one of their best. :D
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Will not stand the test of time. It sounds dated already. I do like a handful of tracks though.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Ryan_WFC wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    I was so "FIRED UP" when Pearl Jam released this album(after the Riot Act disaster).....

    but i was soon disappointed.....a few good songs but nothing spectacular....

    That about sums it up for me. It was a definite step up from Riot Act, and when it first came out I thought it was awesome. Now it's just pretty good. There are some real great songs on it (I think WWS is the best song they've done since Yield), but also some songs that wore thin pretty quick. As an album, it doesn't flow well for me either.

    Agreed. I also don't think the sound production is good; it sounds like a dubbed cassette.

    Very true... I feel like that's been a problem with a lot of their releases as of late. It's like what Metallica did to 'and justice for all...' There is NO bass in their recordings anymore, no muscle. It's all thin guitars and clicking drums. It's like they've sworn off rhythm, despite the fact that they used to be one of the grooviest big rock bands around. I have the same problem with the Gorge set... thin guitars, Ed's voice high and quavering, no bassline to speak of...
  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    * Life Wasted - Like it a lot!
    * World Wide Suicide - mmm... it's ok.
    * Comatose - Love it! (so does my little niece!)
    * Severed Hand - Like it a lot!
    * Marker In The Sand - Like it a lot!
    * Parachutes - I can take it or leave it, but a cool song. (I know some of you like it)
    * Unemployable - Not so much, but I can dig it live.
    * Big Wave - Not so much.
    * Gone - I like this song a lot, but not with drums
    * Wasted Reprise - I like it.
    * Army Reserve - Love it!
    * Come Back - Not so much.
    * Inside Job - Love it!

    So... in my own Rotten Tomatoes way, I'd give it about an 80%.
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  • Crane
    Crane Posts: 192
    It's my least favourite album. First four tracks all sound alike to me and that's the production fault. Melodies are sparse as well.

    I do love Come Back and Inside Job though. Come Back gives me that goosebumps feeling everytime, one of my favourites ever so Im grateful to the album in that respect. Just a very samey kind of album and again I think it's down to the production
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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    I like to listen to it in the car. 8-)
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Great album took some time to get into the feel of the direction but now it's amazing to me. Inside job is a masterpiece and should be played much more live.
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  • decides2dream
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    one of my husband's biggest complaints with pearl jam recordings - and he IS a big fan - is how nearly non-existent in the mix the bassline seems. always has been a complaint, but he's mentioned it more with newer recordings. i like avocado. i never loved it, just liked it. my husband actually really likes it a lot more than a lot of their newer stuff, but he really appreciates that straight-forward, hard driving rock. granted, the whole album doesn't deliver that, but enough so that he likes it a lot more than the past few albums. i do still enjoy it, but no code is the pinnacle for me. so yea...it's a good album, but not nearly as great as other pearl jam albums.



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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    ...but I do have to add, while I think their sound on Avocado is better than a number of previous albums, I wish they would go for an ultra-stripped sound. Like, record it all in one-take in one room and leave minor mistakes in.
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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    decides2dream wrote:



    justam - it IS a good car album! 8-)
    :)
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    I love it, a couple of songs became instant classics for me, others sound like bsides or rarities, as a whole it's a solid album.
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