The bomb. I listen to it more than any other PJ album since it came out.
And I'm not living this life without you, I'm selfish and clear
And you're not leaving here without me, I don't wanna be without
My best... friend. Wake up, to see you could have it all
This album is interesting because people seem to have a lot of differing opinons. I love Worldwide Suicide and think that Come Back is an abomination. I bet there are others that think the exact opposite.
like most on this thread i only like a handful of songs on this album. it's not their best work to date in my opinion. with the previous seven albums i can listen to all of them from beginning to end without hesitation. this album on the other hand i can't. i thought it would grow on me after a while just like binaural and riot act which are both great, but this one never did and i don't think it ever will. i think a lot of it for me is the ed's vocals on the album. for me their way to scratchy/screamy. but that's just my opinion, i could be wrong.
I think it was a breath of fresh air. While I love many songs on Riot Act and Binaural, they never felt like "albums" to me. I wouldn't just play the album all the way thru. Avocado was the first in a long time that was cohesive as an album.
Actually, I have to agree with you whole heartedly. There are a few tracks on Riot Act, though I love it, that unless I'm in a specific mood, I'll skip over. I can't say the same with Binaural, personally, I think that album is solid all the way through. Avocado was a breath of fresh air though, had a very different feel which was nice after 6 years.
I have thought since day one that it was a really good record. I'm glad they made more of a "rocking" album in terms of there last two. For some reason, I've always looked at this recording as a concept type of album.
In the eyes of a soldier, or the spouce of that soldier.
Maybe I'm completely off base on that but a lot songs really imply this type of situation, in my mind at least.
Severed Hand
Comeback
Comatose
WWS
Inside Job
Parachutes
Marker
Not overly political on the surface but all deal with war or the unforseen future.
except Big Wave, which I can't fit in to this idea, but still think kicks major ass.
Way better than Riot Act! Come Back, Inside Job, Gone, Marker...Great songs. Agree that it was refreshing. So cool to see what will be next at this stage in an amazing bands career.
I love Riot Act. While it lacks energy, I love the atmosphere it creates. Definitely the best mixed Pearl Jam album.. Avocado has better songs, but a step backwards in the production department.
= Life Wasted - hated this song when I first heard, now it's alright.
= WWS - loved it when it first came out, not so much nowadays.
+ Comatose - used to hate it, now I like it. Top 3 of "Avocado"
+ Severed Hand - Good tune!
+ MITS - Best song on self-titled. One of the better song they wrote this decade.
+ Parachutes - Another unique Stone classic.
- Unemployable - liked it a bit in '06 but now I consider it as the worst PJ song ever!
= Big Wave - sounds good live but decent on the album.
= Wasted Reprise - just a filler.
+ Army Reserve - second best on the album
- Come Back - boring! it is decent on stage.
= Inside Job - great at first, not too much of a fan now.
5 great tracks, 5 average ones, and 2 awful.
It's not as bad as Riot Act.
I have thought since day one that it was a really good record. I'm glad they made more of a "rocking" album in terms of there last two. For some reason, I've always looked at this recording as a concept type of album.
In the eyes of a soldier, or the spouce of that soldier.
Maybe I'm completely off base on that but a lot songs really imply this type of situation, in my mind at least.
Severed Hand
Comeback
Comatose
WWS
Inside Job
Parachutes
Marker
Not overly political on the surface but all deal with war or the unforseen future.
except Big Wave, which I can't fit in to this idea, but still think kicks major ass.
I completely understand your interpretation, my best friend agrees with you. For me though, what this album really lacks is a theme. If all the songs would have carried those themes I would have loved the album. But, to me at least, Severed Hand is about some sort of "trip," Comeback is about Johnny Ramone's death, Comatose is about excepting different types of relationships, Inside Job is Mike's personal response to overcoming his addictions and Parachutes is about Ed's daughter. Now I'll give ya WWS, Marker and Army Reserve, but the rest of the alum is all over the place. And I didn't even get to Big Wave, Life Wasted or Gone... In one way or the other I like each song on it's own, but as an album, somethings missing.
Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
...I'lltell you what, I'll listen to RA from start to finish sometime this weekend, just for you!
But you have to listen to Yield and give both GTF and PMPM another shot!
...I'lltell you what, I'll listen to RA from start to finish sometime this weekend, just for you!
But you have to listen to Yield and give both GTF and PMPM another shot!
alright you might have a deal
"I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
I have thought since day one that it was a really good record. I'm glad they made more of a "rocking" album in terms of there last two. For some reason, I've always looked at this recording as a concept type of album.
In the eyes of a soldier, or the spouce of that soldier.
Maybe I'm completely off base on that but a lot songs really imply this type of situation, in my mind at least.
Severed Hand
Comeback
Comatose
WWS
Inside Job
Parachutes
Marker
Not overly political on the surface but all deal with war or the unforseen future.
except Big Wave, which I can't fit in to this idea, but still think kicks major ass.
I completely understand your interpretation, my best friend agrees with you. For me though, what this album really lacks is a theme. If all the songs would have carried those themes I would have loved the album. But, to me at least, Severed Hand is about some sort of "trip," Comeback is about Johnny Ramone's death, Comatose is about excepting different types of relationships, Inside Job is Mike's personal response to overcoming his addictions and Parachutes is about Ed's daughter. Now I'll give ya WWS, Marker and Army Reserve, but the rest of the alum is all over the place. And I didn't even get to Big Wave, Life Wasted or Gone... In one way or the other I like each song on it's own, but as an album, somethings missing.
Agree on the soldier concept actually for the most part and I think the theme is more about the difficulties of living in 2006 with two wars going on, etc. This is the closest to a theme album as they have ever gotten. It is not overly political as captainwisejam mentioned. And Ed really went back to telling people's stories this time instead of just ranting and letting other people write nonsense lyrics like the last record.
Ed is on record as saying Life Wasted was direcly influenced by Johnny Ramone's funeral. On VH1 he said the got the idea on the way home.
But Come Back fits with the soldier's story and is a perfect complement to Army Reserve. Yes, I know Ed has said Johnny inspired Come Back, but unless they were a whole lot closer than we all think, the lyrics feel more like the Army wife from Army Reserve wife wishing her husband would come back. There was intention in putting those two tracks back to back. Army Reserve is about not wanting the unthinkable to happen to your spouse while you are at home with the kids. Come Back is after the unthinkable happened. So maybe it was originally inspired by him but he decided to change it up to fit with AR better.
If for nothing else than the fact that we got Marker in the Sand from this album then it is worth it. Best album since Yield by far. It plays like two sides of an LP though with the second side sucking.
Good
Marker in the Sand
Severed Hand
WWS
Life Wasted
Inside Job
Comatose
Not So Good
Gone
Parachutes
Big Wave
Come Back
Wasted Reprise
Unemployable
Army Reserve
My friend asked me last night what PJ fans thought of "Avocado" almost 3 years later
and I really couldn't answer him...
so
What is your opinion of Pearl Jam/Avocado?
Thanks!!
It has some solid songs: Life Wasted, Wasted Reprise, Gone, WWS, Severed Hand, Big Wave...Overall, not as good as say...VITALOGY. Then again, nothing is as good as VITALOGY....You know why? Because VITALOGY IS A FUCKING MASTERPIECE! It's amazing how I made it all about Vitalogy all of a sudden
Avocado's album concept is cool though. I like the whole avocado/advocate word play.
I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...
The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED
My friend asked me last night what PJ fans thought of "Avocado" almost 3 years later
and I really couldn't answer him...
so
What is your opinion of Pearl Jam/Avocado?
Thanks!!
It has some solid songs: Life Wasted, Wasted Reprise, Gone, WWS, Severed Hand, Big Wave...Overall, not as good as say...VITALOGY. Then again, nothing is as good as VITALOGY....You know why? Because VITALOGY IS A FUCKING MASTERPIECE! It's amazing how I made it all about Vitalogy all of a sudden
Avocado's album concept is cool though. I like the whole avocado/advocate word play.
Vitalogy sucks
But really Avocado is better than Riot Act and that's about all.
since reading this thread i listened to avocado and i really think it's great. there are a few exceptions, songs that i'm not in love with but still...it's pearl jam. even if it doesn't exactly tick my clock, it still rocks on some level. i truly love marker in the sand, parachutes (i don't know what you guys are talking about with this one), comatose, come back, life wasted, wws, and inside job.
i know someday you'll have a beautiful life, i know you'll be a star in somebody else's sky...but why can't it be mine?
Now, almost 3 years later, it has grown a little tired in my opinion. There are 2 songs that I loved from day 1 that I still love and don't think I will ever get sick of: Life Wasted and Parachutes. I also think that Come Back and Marker are Very good songs that I will always like hearing. One song that I didn't like at first but is now one of my favs is Army Reserve. And Inside Job is AWESOME live but I find it very bland on the album.
Most of the others, I have grown almost completely sick of in 3 years: Severed Hand, Comatose, WWS, Gone, and Unemoployable all fit in to this category, although I would be happy to hear any of them live (well, maybe not Gone) as long as it wasn't at every show. Big Wave never really turned me on, but hearing it live in Harford brought it to life, which was really cool.
All in all, I'd say that this is a good album, but not a great album. Certainly not worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as Yield, No Code, vs, Vitalogy and Ten. But it is still a solid album with some very good songs on it that I am happy is part of the Pearl Jam catalogue.
If you switch WWS and Life Wasted, I basically agree with everything you say here, song by song. I love Parachutes and WWS, Inside Job and Army Reserve grew on me and I love them, and Come Back and Marker are solid songs. But Gone, Comatose, and Severed Hand sound incredibly lame to me, even though I liked them ok at first. Unemployable is an ok song, no more or less. Life Wasted is a pretty good song live, but it sounds bad on the album I think.
i personally like the album. It does sound better live. I've listened to this "Italian Job" bootleg more according to itunes than the actual studio album. that might be why i have positive feelings about the album.
I’ve seen Pearl Jam 25 times, Eddie Vedder 9 times, and Brad once.
Agree on the soldier concept actually for the most part and I think the theme is more about the difficulties of living in 2006 with two wars going on, etc. This is the closest to a theme album as they have ever gotten. It is not overly political as captainwisejam mentioned. And Ed really went back to telling people's stories this time instead of just ranting and letting other people write nonsense lyrics like the last record.
Ed is on record as saying Life Wasted was direcly influenced by Johnny Ramone's funeral. On VH1 he said the got the idea on the way home.
But Come Back fits with the soldier's story and is a perfect complement to Army Reserve. Yes, I know Ed has said Johnny inspired Come Back, but unless they were a whole lot closer than we all think, the lyrics feel more like the Army wife from Army Reserve wife wishing her husband would come back. There was intention in putting those two tracks back to back. Army Reserve is about not wanting the unthinkable to happen to your spouse while you are at home with the kids. Come Back is after the unthinkable happened. So maybe it was originally inspired by him but he decided to change it up to fit with AR better.
I agree that the lyrical change back to telling stories instead of ham-handed philosophical crap (LBC) was a definite improvement.
Ed and Johnny Ramone were VERY close. They hung out a lot. Haven't you heard of the stories of Johnny's disciples? Ed and Rob Zombie and a bunch of other guys all used to hang out and talk music and politics. Ed's spoken openly about it.
I hope I can tolerate with it because I haven't listen to it completely in well over 4 years. :oops:
tisk tisk!
OK, re-listened to Riot Act from start to finish for the first time in years and I have to admit it’s not as bad as I said it was but still the bottom two along with Avocado. They're both C+ average records in my opinion.
+ Can’t Keep - On point with another good opener.
I Am Mine - Second best track on the album
You Are - I love this song. Good job Matt! Top 5 from this decade.
Half Full - Mike has an awesome solo on this song.
All Or None - Another great closer.
=(average) Save You - Don’t know why but I find this track cheesy.
Cropduster - It’s a decent track.
Thumbing My Way - Too damn depressing and kinda boring.
Help Help - It’s actually not as bad as I thought it was but still not impressed by it.
Bushleaguer - Sometimes I like this song but sometimes I don’t.
Arc
- Love Boat Captain - The reason why Boom should not be in the band.
Ghost - Awful lyrics! But I like the riff though.
Get Right - Just fucking awful.
Green Disease - same as above.
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And you're not leaving here without me, I don't wanna be without
My best... friend. Wake up, to see you could have it all
Actually, I have to agree with you whole heartedly. There are a few tracks on Riot Act, though I love it, that unless I'm in a specific mood, I'll skip over. I can't say the same with Binaural, personally, I think that album is solid all the way through. Avocado was a breath of fresh air though, had a very different feel which was nice after 6 years.
In the eyes of a soldier, or the spouce of that soldier.
Maybe I'm completely off base on that but a lot songs really imply this type of situation, in my mind at least.
Severed Hand
Comeback
Comatose
WWS
Inside Job
Parachutes
Marker
Not overly political on the surface but all deal with war or the unforseen future.
except Big Wave, which I can't fit in to this idea, but still think kicks major ass.
Comatose is an amazing song to listen to when angry :twisted:
Severed hand, I cannot get enough of
= WWS - loved it when it first came out, not so much nowadays.
+ Comatose - used to hate it, now I like it. Top 3 of "Avocado"
+ Severed Hand - Good tune!
+ MITS - Best song on self-titled. One of the better song they wrote this decade.
+ Parachutes - Another unique Stone classic.
- Unemployable - liked it a bit in '06 but now I consider it as the worst PJ song ever!
= Big Wave - sounds good live but decent on the album.
= Wasted Reprise - just a filler.
+ Army Reserve - second best on the album
- Come Back - boring! it is decent on stage.
= Inside Job - great at first, not too much of a fan now.
5 great tracks, 5 average ones, and 2 awful.
It's not as bad as Riot Act.
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
I completely understand your interpretation, my best friend agrees with you. For me though, what this album really lacks is a theme. If all the songs would have carried those themes I would have loved the album. But, to me at least, Severed Hand is about some sort of "trip," Comeback is about Johnny Ramone's death, Comatose is about excepting different types of relationships, Inside Job is Mike's personal response to overcoming his addictions and Parachutes is about Ed's daughter. Now I'll give ya WWS, Marker and Army Reserve, but the rest of the alum is all over the place. And I didn't even get to Big Wave, Life Wasted or Gone... In one way or the other I like each song on it's own, but as an album, somethings missing.
...I'lltell you what, I'll listen to RA from start to finish sometime this weekend, just for you!
But you have to listen to Yield and give both GTF and PMPM another shot!
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
Couldn't have said it better than this
agreed!
Agree on the soldier concept actually for the most part and I think the theme is more about the difficulties of living in 2006 with two wars going on, etc. This is the closest to a theme album as they have ever gotten. It is not overly political as captainwisejam mentioned. And Ed really went back to telling people's stories this time instead of just ranting and letting other people write nonsense lyrics like the last record.
Ed is on record as saying Life Wasted was direcly influenced by Johnny Ramone's funeral. On VH1 he said the got the idea on the way home.
But Come Back fits with the soldier's story and is a perfect complement to Army Reserve. Yes, I know Ed has said Johnny inspired Come Back, but unless they were a whole lot closer than we all think, the lyrics feel more like the Army wife from Army Reserve wife wishing her husband would come back. There was intention in putting those two tracks back to back. Army Reserve is about not wanting the unthinkable to happen to your spouse while you are at home with the kids. Come Back is after the unthinkable happened. So maybe it was originally inspired by him but he decided to change it up to fit with AR better.
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PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
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TUL-10/8/14
Good
Marker in the Sand
Severed Hand
WWS
Life Wasted
Inside Job
Comatose
Not So Good
Gone
Parachutes
Big Wave
Come Back
Wasted Reprise
Unemployable
Army Reserve
It has some solid songs: Life Wasted, Wasted Reprise, Gone, WWS, Severed Hand, Big Wave...Overall, not as good as say...VITALOGY. Then again, nothing is as good as VITALOGY....You know why? Because VITALOGY IS A FUCKING MASTERPIECE! It's amazing how I made it all about Vitalogy all of a sudden
Avocado's album concept is cool though. I like the whole avocado/advocate word play.
The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED
#resistgezi #resistturkey #resisttaksim #direnturkiye #direngezi
#standingman #duranadam
But really Avocado is better than Riot Act and that's about all.
If you switch WWS and Life Wasted, I basically agree with everything you say here, song by song. I love Parachutes and WWS, Inside Job and Army Reserve grew on me and I love them, and Come Back and Marker are solid songs. But Gone, Comatose, and Severed Hand sound incredibly lame to me, even though I liked them ok at first. Unemployable is an ok song, no more or less. Life Wasted is a pretty good song live, but it sounds bad on the album I think.
I agree that the lyrical change back to telling stories instead of ham-handed philosophical crap (LBC) was a definite improvement.
Ed and Johnny Ramone were VERY close. They hung out a lot. Haven't you heard of the stories of Johnny's disciples? Ed and Rob Zombie and a bunch of other guys all used to hang out and talk music and politics. Ed's spoken openly about it.
+ Can’t Keep - On point with another good opener.
I Am Mine - Second best track on the album
You Are - I love this song. Good job Matt! Top 5 from this decade.
Half Full - Mike has an awesome solo on this song.
All Or None - Another great closer.
=(average) Save You - Don’t know why but I find this track cheesy.
Cropduster - It’s a decent track.
Thumbing My Way - Too damn depressing and kinda boring.
Help Help - It’s actually not as bad as I thought it was but still not impressed by it.
Bushleaguer - Sometimes I like this song but sometimes I don’t.
Arc
- Love Boat Captain - The reason why Boom should not be in the band.
Ghost - Awful lyrics! But I like the riff though.
Get Right - Just fucking awful.
Green Disease - same as above.
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009