What do people think of "Avocado"

azwyldcats

The bomb. I listen to it more than any other PJ album since it came out.

Ledbetterman1O

This album is interesting because people seem to have a lot of differing opinons. I love Worldwide Suicide and think that Come Back is an abomination. I bet there are others that think the exact opposite.

soonerdead

like most on this thread i only like a handful of songs on this album. it's not their best work to date in my opinion. with the previous seven albums i can listen to all of them from beginning to end without hesitation. this album on the other hand i can't. i thought it would grow on me after a while just like binaural and riot act which are both great, but this one never did and i don't think it ever will. i think a lot of it for me is the ed's vocals on the album. for me their way to scratchy/screamy. but that's just my opinion, i could be wrong.

mrshock13

CJMST3K wrote:

I think it was a breath of fresh air. While I love many songs on Riot Act and Binaural, they never felt like "albums" to me. I wouldn't just play the album all the way thru. Avocado was the first in a long time that was cohesive as an album.

Actually, I have to agree with you whole heartedly. There are a few tracks on Riot Act, though I love it, that unless I'm in a specific mood, I'll skip over. I can't say the same with Binaural, personally, I think that album is solid all the way through. Avocado was a breath of fresh air though, had a very different feel which was nice after 6 years.

captainwisejam

I have thought since day one that it was a really good record. I'm glad they made more of a "rocking" album in terms of there last two. For some reason, I've always looked at this recording as a concept type of album.

In the eyes of a soldier, or the spouce of that soldier.

Maybe I'm completely off base on that but a lot songs really imply this type of situation, in my mind at least.

Severed Hand
Comeback
Comatose
WWS
Inside Job
Parachutes
Marker

Not overly political on the surface but all deal with war or the unforseen future.

except Big Wave, which I can't fit in to this idea, but still think kicks major ass.

alliw719

I love listening to it in the car, as other people before me have explained themselves. It's certainly not my favorite album but I do really like it.

Comatose is an amazing song to listen to when angry :twisted:

Severed hand, I cannot get enough of

LikeAnOcean

It's probably my favorite album.

kineticjam

Way better than Riot Act! Come Back, Inside Job, Gone, Marker...Great songs. Agree that it was refreshing. So cool to see what will be next at this stage in an amazing bands career.

LikeAnOcean

I love Riot Act. While it lacks energy, I love the atmosphere it creates. Definitely the best mixed Pearl Jam album.. Avocado has better songs, but a step backwards in the production department.

LONGRD

= Life Wasted - hated this song when I first heard, now it's alright.
= WWS - loved it when it first came out, not so much nowadays.
+ Comatose - used to hate it, now I like it. Top 3 of "Avocado"
+ Severed Hand - Good tune!
+ MITS - Best song on self-titled. One of the better song they wrote this decade.
+ Parachutes - Another unique Stone classic.
- Unemployable - liked it a bit in '06 but now I consider it as the worst PJ song ever!
= Big Wave - sounds good live but decent on the album.
= Wasted Reprise - just a filler.
+ Army Reserve - second best on the album
- Come Back - boring! it is decent on stage.
= Inside Job - great at first, not too much of a fan now.

5 great tracks, 5 average ones, and 2 awful.
It's not as bad as Riot Act.

CHANGEinWAVES

LongRd. wrote:

It's not as bad as Riot Act.

:x

Commy

great follow up to Riot Act. and Riot act was a good album. great album. inside job is one of my favorite tunes.

Gmoney

captainwisejam wrote:

I have thought since day one that it was a really good record. I'm glad they made more of a "rocking" album in terms of there last two. For some reason, I've always looked at this recording as a concept type of album.

In the eyes of a soldier, or the spouce of that soldier.

Maybe I'm completely off base on that but a lot songs really imply this type of situation, in my mind at least.

Severed Hand
Comeback
Comatose
WWS
Inside Job
Parachutes
Marker

Not overly political on the surface but all deal with war or the unforseen future.

except Big Wave, which I can't fit in to this idea, but still think kicks major ass.

I completely understand your interpretation, my best friend agrees with you. For me though, what this album really lacks is a theme. If all the songs would have carried those themes I would have loved the album. But, to me at least, Severed Hand is about some sort of "trip," Comeback is about Johnny Ramone's death, Comatose is about excepting different types of relationships, Inside Job is Mike's personal response to overcoming his addictions and Parachutes is about Ed's daughter. Now I'll give ya WWS, Marker and Army Reserve, but the rest of the alum is all over the place. And I didn't even get to Big Wave, Life Wasted or Gone... In one way or the other I like each song on it's own, but as an album, somethings missing.

LONGRD

CHANGEinWAVES wrote:

LongRd. wrote:

It's not as bad as Riot Act.

:x

:P hehe...

...I'lltell you what, I'll listen to RA from start to finish sometime this weekend, just for you!
But you have to listen to Yield and give both GTF and PMPM another shot!

CHANGEinWAVES

LongRd. wrote:

CHANGEinWAVES wrote:

LongRd. wrote:

It's not as bad as Riot Act.

:x

:P hehe...

...I'lltell you what, I'll listen to RA from start to finish sometime this weekend, just for you!
But you have to listen to Yield and give both GTF and PMPM another shot!

alright you might have a deal

LONGRD

I hope I can tolerate with it because I haven't listen to it completely in well over 4 years. :oops:

CHANGEinWAVES

LongRd. wrote:

I hope I can tolerate with it because I haven't listen to it completely in well over 4 years. :oops:

tisk tisk!

dustinpardue

pjsteelerfan wrote:

I still think it was their best albulm since Yield.

Couldn't have said it better than this

BZ

dustinpardue wrote:

pjsteelerfan wrote:

I still think it was their best albulm since Yield.

Couldn't have said it better than this

agreed!

Flagg

Gmoney wrote:

captainwisejam wrote:

I have thought since day one that it was a really good record. I'm glad they made more of a "rocking" album in terms of there last two. For some reason, I've always looked at this recording as a concept type of album.

In the eyes of a soldier, or the spouce of that soldier.

Maybe I'm completely off base on that but a lot songs really imply this type of situation, in my mind at least.

Severed Hand
Comeback
Comatose
WWS
Inside Job
Parachutes
Marker

Not overly political on the surface but all deal with war or the unforseen future.

except Big Wave, which I can't fit in to this idea, but still think kicks major ass.

I completely understand your interpretation, my best friend agrees with you. For me though, what this album really lacks is a theme. If all the songs would have carried those themes I would have loved the album. But, to me at least, Severed Hand is about some sort of "trip," Comeback is about Johnny Ramone's death, Comatose is about excepting different types of relationships, Inside Job is Mike's personal response to overcoming his addictions and Parachutes is about Ed's daughter. Now I'll give ya WWS, Marker and Army Reserve, but the rest of the alum is all over the place. And I didn't even get to Big Wave, Life Wasted or Gone... In one way or the other I like each song on it's own, but as an album, somethings missing.

Agree on the soldier concept actually for the most part and I think the theme is more about the difficulties of living in 2006 with two wars going on, etc. This is the closest to a theme album as they have ever gotten. It is not overly political as captainwisejam mentioned. And Ed really went back to telling people's stories this time instead of just ranting and letting other people write nonsense lyrics like the last record.

Ed is on record as saying Life Wasted was direcly influenced by Johnny Ramone's funeral. On VH1 he said the got the idea on the way home.

But Come Back fits with the soldier's story and is a perfect complement to Army Reserve. Yes, I know Ed has said Johnny inspired Come Back, but unless they were a whole lot closer than we all think, the lyrics feel more like the Army wife from Army Reserve wife wishing her husband would come back. There was intention in putting those two tracks back to back. Army Reserve is about not wanting the unthinkable to happen to your spouse while you are at home with the kids. Come Back is after the unthinkable happened. So maybe it was originally inspired by him but he decided to change it up to fit with AR better.