2008 Patriots

Indifference

stickboy wrote:

I wonder when the last time the Jets were 2 and 0 and the Pats 1 and 1 was

1987

stickboy

Indifference wrote:

1987

damn, 21 yrs later its about to happen again, lol
well maybe

who's favored and by how many points anyways?

Indifference

stickboy wrote:

damn, 21 yrs later its about to happen again, lol
well maybe

who's favored and by how many points anyways?

jets by 2.5/3 - given that the oddsmakers give 3 points for home they are basically calling the teams even.

JSBE

stickboy wrote:

damn, 21 yrs later its about to happen again, lol
well maybe

who's favored and by how many points anyways?

i like how you've added "well maybe" over the last 24 hours. way to cover yourself from any possible embarassment on sunday. i mean, you were so overly confident that the jets were going to beat the pats yesterday.

right now the opening line is between 2 and 2.5 points with the jets as favorites. the over/under is between 36 and 37 points.

i wonder how much the pats would have been favored with brady?

stickboy

JSBE wrote:

i like how you've added "well maybe" over the last 24 hours. way to cover yourself from any possible embarassment on sunday. i mean, you were so overly confident that the jets were going to beat the pats yesterday.

right now the opening line is between 2 and 2.5 points with the jets as favorites. the over/under is between 36 and 37 points.

i wonder how much the pats would have been favored with brady?

again....understand... I am NOT a jets fan..win or lose why would I be embarrased? Ive lost many bets before after shit talking and Im sure I'll lose more in the future. God knows if I keep betting on games like the Chargers against the Panthers this week, I'll keep geting my ass kicked!

ok, so even as a Pats fan. Say you're betting to win as a football fan..you don't take that bet?? I like the jets all day with that line!! Easy money. The o/u is kinda tough. Score should be similar to this weeks Jets Dolphins game so I wouldn't or rarely ever touch the over unders.

JSBE

stickboy wrote:

again....understand... I am NOT a jets fan..win or lose why would I be embarrased? Ive lost many bets before after shit talking and Im sure I'll lose more in the future. God knows if I keep betting on games like the Chargers against the Panthers this week, I'll keep geting my ass kicked!

ok, so even as a Pats fan. Say you're betting to win as a football fan..you don't take that bet?? I like the jets all day with that line!! Easy money. The o/u is kinda tough. Score should be similar to this weeks Jets Dolphins game so I wouldn't or rarely ever touch the over unders.

i keep forgetting you're a giants fan, but if the pats win, hopefully you'll still stop by the thread and admit you were wrong.

i'm not an actual betting man at all, but if i was, i would honestly still pick the pats with the points. the jets are still the jets until they prove otherwise (i mean, they barely beat the powerhouse that is the dolphins, who were 1-15 last year) and favre is still favre, meaning he's just a gunslinger, albeit a very good one. although, he did it with 16 years on the packers where he ran the show, but when he only knows a chunk of the jets playbook...that's not good.

from peter king's mmqb column: "a couple of times, i just winged it and said, 'hey guys, same play.' ok, ready, break, whatever.'' oh brett, so cute, playing like he's in that stupid wrangler jeans commercial, except in a real game. i'm sure coles and cotchery were giggling like little school girls.

Poncier

stickboy wrote:

..and even in the PLAYOFFS they barely beat Indy and the Chargers) .

Well lets see, they didn't play Indy...they beat Jacksonville 31-20 and San Diego 21-12, both games by 2 scores, so hardly "barely", but don't let facts get in the way of your argument.

stickboy

Poncier wrote:

Well lets see, they didn't play Indy...they beat Jacksonville 31-20 and San Diego 21-12, both games by 2 scores, so hardly "barely", but don't let facts get in the way of your argument.

sorry I meant Indy in that big 1st regular season matchup that was so hyped. Both teams looked lackluster. And Jax was in the game for a while...made it interesting enough at least untl the patsies ran away with it. They didn't look impressive against the chargers either, but whatever. Good teams find ways to win, and you guys did.

stickboy

JSBE wrote:

i keep forgetting you're a giants fan, but if the pats win, hopefully you'll still stop by the thread and admit you were wrong.

i'm not an actual betting man at all, but if i was, i would honestly still pick the pats with the points. the jets are still the jets until they prove otherwise (i mean, they barely beat the powerhouse that is the dolphins, who were 1-15 last year) and favre is still favre, meaning he's just a gunslinger, albeit a very good one. although, he did it with 16 years on the packers where he ran the show, but when he only knows a chunk of the jets playbook...that's not good.

from peter king's mmqb column: "a couple of times, i just winged it and said, 'hey guys, same play.' ok, ready, break, whatever.'' oh brett, so cute, playing like he's in that stupid wrangler jeans commercial, except in a real game. i'm sure coles and cotchery were giggling like little school girls.

I have no problem Manning up and giving you guys props if you pull off a win against the jets this wknd. I just look at it realistically tho and see that Favre has so many more weapons than he ever had on the Packers his whole career. He never had this many guys to throw the ball to or hand off to in one single season. You have to admit, Jones can be a beast this yr adding some TD's to his 1100 yds and the fact that he's got Coles, Cotchery, Franks, Washington and perhaps even this Stuckey kid, who knows what kind of numbers this team is gonna put up. It's still early so I kinda understand the whole playbook thing but damn..when these guys get this shit down Pat..its gonna be a wrap in the afc east. Just an honest prediction, thats all

WhiteMaleRat

stickboy wrote:

I have no problem Manning up and giving you guys props if you pull off a win against the jets this wknd. I just look at it realistically tho and see that Favre has so many more weapons than he ever had on the Packers his whole career. He never had this many guys to throw the ball to or hand off to in one single season. You have to admit, Jones can be a beast this yr adding some TD's to his 1100 yds and the fact that he's got Coles, Cotchery, Franks, Washington and perhaps even this Stuckey kid, who knows what kind of numbers this team is gonna put up. It's still early so I kinda understand the whole playbook thing but damn..when these guys get this shit down Pat..its gonna be a wrap in the afc east. Just an honest prediction, thats all

Hugh? Sharp, Chmura, Howard, J. Walker, A. Green, Franks, Driver, Grant, Henderson, Jennings, plus so many other great players in GB he had.

You got to be kidding.

JSBE

WhiteMaleRat wrote:

Hugh? Sharp, Chmura, Howard, J. Walker, A. Green, Franks, Driver, Grant, Henderson, Jennings, plus so many other great players in GB he had.

You got to be kidding.

i was going to say, but you beat me to it. last year favre lead the pack to a 13-3 record and had an awesome wideout combo of driver and jennings (with james jones a nice 3rd wr). he also had ryan grant in the backfield and donald lee was a solid te.

stickboy

WhiteMaleRat wrote:

Hugh? Sharp, Chmura, Howard, J. Walker, A. Green, Franks, Driver, Grant, Henderson, Jennings, plus so many other great players in GB he had.

You got to be kidding.

yea but not all in one season. Thats what I meant. He had 3 maybe 4 good guys. This Jets team is loaded...and the defense he's got and the jets overall is sick.

I don't disagree about abovementioned players..theyre all phenomenal but they all came yrs apart.

brainofPJ

stickboy wrote:

I have no problem Manning up and giving you guys props if you pull off a win against the jets this wknd. I just look at it realistically tho and see that Favre has so many more weapons than he ever had on the Packers his whole career. He never had this many guys to throw the ball to or hand off to in one single season. You have to admit, Jones can be a beast this yr adding some TD's to his 1100 yds and the fact that he's got Coles, Cotchery, Franks, Washington and perhaps even this Stuckey kid, who knows what kind of numbers this team is gonna put up. It's still early so I kinda understand the whole playbook thing but damn..when these guys get this shit down Pat..its gonna be a wrap in the afc east. Just an honest prediction, thats all

Crotchery is about the only guy he can count on. Coles has a lingering injury, Franks is washed up....and wait until Jones actually faces a good run D.

a reality check will soon hit the Jets hard.

stickboy

brainofPJ wrote:

Crotchery is about the only guy he can count on. Coles has a lingering injury, Franks is washed up....and wait until Jones actually faces a good run D.

a reality check will soon hit the Jets hard.

I guess.

we'll see, they still seem like they can produce tho, injuries, washed up or what not. Favre should be washed up too at like 50 yrs old but he was top 5 QB last yr

brainofPJ

stickboy wrote:

I guess.

we'll see, they still seem like they can produce tho, injuries, washed up or what not. Favre should be washed up too at like 50 yrs old but he was top 5 QB last yr

he's Brett Favre. he's never going to be washed up....well, maybe this season.

stickboy

brainofPJ wrote:

he's Brett Favre. he's never going to be washed up....well, maybe this season.

hahah, the rivals sure hope so!

WhiteMaleRat

stickboy wrote:

yea but not all in one season. Thats what I meant. He had 3 maybe 4 good guys. This Jets team is loaded...and the defense he's got and the jets overall is sick.

I don't disagree about abovementioned players..theyre all phenomenal but they all came yrs apart.

they don't have one pro-bowl type receiver or back? how is Favre "loaded"?

stickboy

WhiteMaleRat wrote:

they don't have one pro-bowl type receiver or back? how is Favre "loaded"?

maybe not pro bowlers but theyre still capable enough to produce big time.

brainofPJ

stickboy wrote:

hahah, the rivals sure hope so!

i'm a Bills fan...

stickboy

brainofPJ wrote:

i'm a Bills fan...

I think you guys are gonna be a pretty nasty team too. I wouldn't sleep on them

brainofPJ

stickboy wrote:

I think you guys are gonna be a pretty nasty team too. I wouldn't sleep on them

i just hope they fly under the radar...

going to be hard to do now that it's the New England Cassels. the East is all about the Bills and Jets now

stickboy

brainofPJ wrote:

i just hope they fly under the radar...

going to be hard to do now that it's the New England Cassels. the East is all about the Bills and Jets now

well they almost fell under with me too until I saw their lineup during my fantasy draft. I think Trent's gonna have a good yr too. Plenty of weapons on their team as well. It's gonna be a dogfight even for a wildcard let alone the title

g under p

I think it's kind of cool that they're more fans of football teams posting here that ARE NOT Patriot fans.

Keep it going

Peace

stickboy

g under p wrote:

I think it's kind of cool that they're more fans of football teams posting here that ARE NOT Patriot fans.

Keep it going

Peace

we LOOVVVVVE the Patsies!

Drop The Leash 10

stickboy wrote:

we LOOVVVVVE the Patsies!

go read what schill said,... kinda sums you up

kidding. dont shoot.

stickboy

Drop The Leash 10 wrote:

go read what schill said,... kinda sums you up

kidding. dont shoot.

lmao

you say that like I would actually listen or care about what he says.

I think Curt worries about us too much. He should worry about what team he's gonna milk next for more money the Pavano way

Drop The Leash 10

stickboy wrote:

lmao

you say that like I would actually listen or care about what he says.

I think Curt worries about us too much. He should worry about what team he's gonna milk next for more money the Pavano way

i cant fuckin stand schill. no one can. sure his off the work field is great. he just needs to shut the fuck up.

stickboy

Drop The Leash 10 wrote:

i cant fuckin stand schill. no one can. sure his off the work field is great. he just needs to shut the fuck up.

don't worry, he'll be gone soon and rendered pretty much irrelevant




until he starts his political career then we gotta listen to his bullshit again

g under p

g under p wrote:

I think it's kind of cool that they're more fans of football teams posting here that ARE NOT Patriot fans.

Keep it going

stickboy wrote:

we LOOVVVVVE the Patsies!

I get the feeling as the season goes along and when the Patriots win you non fans will Faaaaaaade Awaaaaaay. However for now have at it.

Hearts and Thoughts

I seem to recognize your face
Haunting familiar here
I can't seem to place it
Can I find a candle of thought
To light your name
Lifetimes are catchin' on
with me

All these changes takin place
I wish I'd seen the place
but no one's ever taken me

Hearts and thoughts they fade
fade away
hearts and thoughts they fade
fade away

I swear I recognize your breath
memories like fingerprints are slowly raisin'
you wouldnt recall...
are not my fault
it's hard when you're stuck upon
the shelf

I changed by not changin' at all
small time predicts my face
perhaps that what no one wants to see
I just wanna scream
HELLO!

By God it's been so long
never dreamed you'd return!
but now here you are
and here I am

my hearts and thoughts they fade
away

hearts and thoughts they fade
fade away
hearts and thoughts they fade
fade away

hearts and thoughts they fade
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaway
hearts and thoughts they fade
fade away

hearts and thoughts they fade
fade away
hearts and thoughts they fade
fade away

and Ben Harper's

"FADED"

You so easily amuse
like a pantomime
such a silent crime

You so easily abuse
lack of confidence
it's your best offense

You so easily confuse
you can't deny it
still you try to hide it

Faded
so faded
like a memory gone
there's no recollection
Faded
so faded
like a forgotten dream
further than it seems

You so hastily defy
when you think you need it
you find a way to bleed it

You so hastily deny
pleading innocence
it's your best defense

You so hastily reply
the moment that you said it
already regret it

Faded
so faded
like a memory gone
there's no recollection
Faded
so faded
like a forgotten dream
further than it seems


Peace

g under p

Drop The Leash 10 wrote:

i cant fuckin stand schill. no one can. sure his off the work field is great. he just needs to shut the fuck up.

Agreed he just won't shut up.

Peace