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  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    battan1120 wrote:
    Mercury Morris said it best when he said that the Patriots were circling the block and still had to reach the driveway to get in....for the perfect season.Still one team and thats my team that went perfect.To win all yours games and lose the Super Bowl was a total failure on the Patriots part.Nothin' left to do but SMILE SMILE SMILE!!!!!!!!!!

    Did I just hear that the Patriots are a total failure from a Miami fan? How long was the season back then? 4 games?
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Tom Brady's Injury Will Reportedly Cost People $150 Million in Fantasy Football Losses and I don't know a thing about FF.

    Peace
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  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    g under p wrote:
    Tom Brady's Injury Will Reportedly Cost People $150 Million in Fantasy Football Losses and I don't know a thing about FF.

    Peace


    Yeah, but he is also putting $150 Million into other owners pockets so it is a wash.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Wilds wrote:
    Yeah, but he is also putting $150 Million into other owners pockets so it is a wash.

    Come again?

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  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    g under p wrote:
    Come again?

    Peace

    That article is saying Fantasy Football teams with Tom Brady will win X number of Championships. The value of X amount of championships will bring $150 Million dollars to those owners.

    So, the Fantasy teams with Brady now won't win the Championships, then other teams will.

    The article is kind of crap, speculating on the Value of Brady on your fantasy team. It's not as if that money is just gone, it simply goes to someone else.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Wilds wrote:
    That article is saying Fantasy Football teams with Tom Brady will win X number of Championships. The value of X amount of championships will bring $150 Million dollars to those owners.

    So, the Fantasy teams with Brady now won't win the Championships, then other teams will.

    The article is kind of crap, speculating on the Value of Brady on your fantasy team. It's not as if that money is just gone, it simply goes to someone else.

    OK, like I said I don't know a thing about Fantasy football.

    Peace
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  • Drop The Leash 10
    Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    g under p wrote:
    OK, like I said I don't know a thing about Fantasy football.

    Peace
    :p

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Drop The Leash 10 wrote:
    :p

    what does g under p stand for? government under people?

    You know what it stands for I've only said it a million times. :)

    Peace
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    g under p wrote:
    Tom Brady's Injury Will Reportedly Cost People $150 Million in Fantasy Football Losses and I don't know a thing about FF.

    Peace

    thankfully the one league i did draft him in is not for money, so i'm not part of that $150 million, er, i mean i play fantasy football for fun. yeah, fun. not money.
  • Corduroyboy
    Corduroyboy Posts: 1,256
    cropduster82 wrote:
    Forget last years Super Bowl. And I know a few Giants fans are gonna rip this up, but the Pats are the team to beat this year. They WILL win the super bowl. They won't go undefeated like last year, but they will win the big one. OK, bring it on, haters! GO PATS

    Has anyone brought IT on yet?
  • Stone Is God
    Stone Is God Posts: 1,331
    Drop The Leash 10 wrote:
    Belichecks record with the pats is ridiculos.(i cant spell) Don't doubt or give up on Cassel. if Moss, Welker, Welker, and Gaffney can get open on alot of plays good things are going to happen. Expect Maroney to have a breakout season, he kinda needs too :o

    You mean his record with the Pats, with Tom Brady. He was 6-14 in his first 20 games with NE. He's been like 300-20 with Brady.

    They do have great weapons. All I'm saying is if the QB can't get the ball to the weapons those weapons don't mean anything.

    I doubt Cassel because the guy hasn't started anything since HS. At least Brady started games in college.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,965
    Wilds wrote:
    So you admit Brady is the best QB of all time. :D

    yes I don't think there is much question about that one. Only Montana comes close in my mind.
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    Stone Is God wrote:
    You mean his record with the Pats, with Tom Brady. He was 6-14 in his first 20 games with NE. He's been like 300-20 with Brady.

    They do have great weapons. All I'm saying is if the QB can't get the ball to the weapons those weapons don't mean anything.

    I doubt Cassel because the guy hasn't started anything since HS. At least Brady started games in college.

    i think you are just picking your stats for your argument. you could have said that belichick took a 5-11 team his first year as head coach (and honestly, take a look at the roster - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_New_England_Patriots_season) and then with numerous key additions (see below), helped them improve to 11-5 and a super bowl win in season #2.

    the key substrations from 2000 to 2001 were bledsoe (to injury) and terry glenn (to being terry glenn). i don't think it would be going too far out on a limb to say that at that point those were to top offensive weapons for the pats during the 2000 season.

    the key additions from 2000 to 2001 were: brady (untested 3rd string rookie who wasn't a fulltime starter in college), seymour, izzo, vrabel, neal, light, andruzzi, david patten, antowain smith and ty law.

    i also find it very odd that no one is saying the things that people are saying about matt cassel when they talk about aaron rodgers. granted he did start in college, but that was 2004. he had all of 59 passing attempts before this season and had never started an nfl game until last night. the pack were 13-3 last year and one horrible favre interception away from the super bowl yet he gets a free pass? it doesn't make sense to me.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,571
    JSBE wrote:
    i think you are just picking your stats for your argument. you could have said that belichick took a 5-11 team his first year as head coach (and honestly, take a look at the roster - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_New_England_Patriots_season) and then with numerous key additions (see below), helped them improve to 11-5 and a super bowl win in season #2.

    the key substrations from 2000 to 2001 were bledsoe (to injury) and terry glenn (to being terry glenn). i don't think it would be going too far out on a limb to say that at that point those were to top offensive weapons for the pats during the 2000 season.

    the key additions from 2000 to 2001 were: brady (untested 3rd string rookie who wasn't a fulltime starter in college), seymour, izzo, vrabel, neal, light, andruzzi, david patten, antowain smith and ty law.

    i also find it very odd that no one is saying the things that people are saying about matt cassel when they talk about aaron rodgers. granted he did start in college, but that was 2004. he had all of 59 passing attempts before this season and had never started an nfl game until last night. the pack were 13-3 last year and one horrible favre interception away from the super bowl yet he gets a free pass? it doesn't make sense to me.

    Maybe this will make sense to you - Cassel never threw a TD in college. Make sense now? Good luck guys.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Maybe this will make sense to you - Cassel never threw a TD in college. Make sense now? Good luck guys.

    Many QB's have thrown td's in college and weren't worth elephant dung in the pros

    Peace
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,571
    g under p wrote:
    Many QB's have thrown td's in college and weren't worth elephant dung in the pros

    Peace

    Ya gotta believe right?
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Maybe this will make sense to you - Cassel never threw a TD in college. Make sense now? Good luck guys.

    qbs that won the heisman over the last 20 years:

    andre ware
    ty detmer
    gino torretta
    charlie ward
    danny wuerffel
    chris weinke
    eric crouch
    carson palmer
    jason white
    matt leinart
    troy smith

    so obviously being great in college doesn't mean anything in the nfl.

    other than carson palmer, i don't see one that has been even semi-decent in the nfl and even right now palmer isn't living up to his potential despite his outstanding wideouts.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,571
    JSBE wrote:
    qbs that won the heisman over the last 20 years:

    andre ware
    ty detmer
    gino torretta
    charlie ward
    danny wuerffel
    chris weinke
    eric crouch
    carson palmer
    jason white
    matt leinart
    troy smith

    other than carson palmer, i don't see one that has been even semi-decent in the nfl and even right now palmer isn't living up to his potential despite his outstanding wideouts.

    I'm talking NOT Heisman winners. I'm talking about a lousy TD pass. You guys hit the lottery with Brady. It's not happening again.
  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    I'm talking Heisman winners. I'm talking about a lousy TD pass. You guys hit the lottery with Brady. It's not happening again.

    they have no scheduled work out planned for bringing in a QB...if Cassell goes down they are screwed literally
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  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    I'm talking NOT Heisman winners. I'm talking about a lousy TD pass. You guys hit the lottery with Brady. It's not happening again.

    Hate hate hate
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