Amaro has hit a new low with this young trade. What an ass hole.
Why cause he's 36 and it's for only one year? Or cause he had a bad year last year? Or was it the players we traded for to get him?
the first question is the only good thing about this move. and apparently the phils wanted to EXTEND young prior to the trade being announced (thank god that young declined). you can't make this stuff up.
the second two questions are part of the problem. young and galvis had similar OPS last year...and young strength is supposed to be offense! Young's WAR was NEGATIVE 2.4 last year. That is insane. And that was with him playing mostly first base. He hasn't played third everyday since 2010 I believe. There's a reason for that...because he cannot play 3B.
Why give up two young players (bonilla is said to have future closer stuff...he was the best RP in their system) and pay 6 million for a guy who's clearly on the downside of his career?
I hate the trade. Par for the course with amaro running the show. Fire his ass
guess i'm in the minority in liking the pick up. He was great a few years ago, I'm hoping last year was just an off year :?
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guess i'm in the minority in liking the pick up. He was great a few years ago, I'm hoping last year was just an off year :?
I don't mind either move at the moment,because we got a 3b and a CF for less then 7 mill combine. Now if can we add a OF and a setup guy and not over paid them then i'd be extremely happy. Cody Ross would suck imo,i'd be happy with a OF of Swisher or Hamilton(no more then 4yrs) Revere and Ruf.
guess i'm in the minority in liking the pick up. He was great a few years ago, I'm hoping last year was just an off year :?
I don't mind either move at the moment,because we got a 3b and a CF for less then 7 mill combine. Now if can we add a OF and a setup guy and not over paid them then i'd be extremely happy. Cody Ross would suck imo,i'd be happy with a OF of Swisher or Hamilton(no more then 4yrs) Revere and Ruf.
definitely like the revere move more than i like the young move. but at least it's a 1 year stop gap before the young buck is hopefully ready.
waiting for the next shoe to drop. i'm not sure why they apparently aren't interested in swisher. douchebagginess aside, he's a right handed bat with pop who gets on base. wouldn't mind him in right field for next few years.
swisher is a switch hitter (5 of his 24 HRs from the right side). some people just shouldn't comment on baseball
the revere trade is a mixed bag. I'm glad they didn't overpay for a free agent, but the nats gave up less to get a better player in span. why can't amaro make that kind of deal?
swisher is a switch hitter (5 of his 24 HRs from the right side). some people just shouldn't comment on baseball
the revere trade is a mixed bag. I'm glad they didn't overpay for a free agent, but the nats gave up less to get a better player in span. why can't amaro make that kind of deal?
good for you, yeah he's a switch hitter. congrats on pointing out my mistake. thankfully there were no grammatical errors. :roll:
last 3 years his average is 30 points higher as a righty and his obp is 70 points higher as a righty. hr's are less, sure, but so are his at bats from the right side. this lineup can use that kind of production.
would you be opposed to a swisher signing? if so, who would you prefer?
the revere trade is a mixed bag. I'm glad they didn't overpay for a free agent, but the nats gave up less to get a better player in span. why can't amaro make that kind of deal?[/quote]
Agree,the trade imo depends on what they do with the xtra cash they saved at the CF spot. I'd go 4-105 for Hamilton,but no higher in the years for sure. I hate Cody Ross,don't mind Swisher and would still love a trade for Upton. Amaro didn't make the Span deal because he was going after BJ and Pagan at that time. I think after losing out on those 2 he wanted Bourne but Borus wouldn't budge on his insane price tag. Like I said I like the Revere trade only because it frees us up for a big move.
“He has all the elements we’re looking for,” general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said. “First of all, the makeup is extraordinary. He’s the ultimate team player. He knows how to play baseball. He’s a winning baseball player. He’s had the opportunity to be in big games in the playoffs and he just fits real well.”
What about the element of, you know, being good at baseball?
so with texas interested in trading for j upton and putting the squeeze on hamilton to make a decision...maybe the phils could swoop in with a 4 year deal? or load up on a 3 year deal since that's all the m's seem to be offering? :think:
“He has all the elements we’re looking for,” general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said. “First of all, the makeup is extraordinary. He’s the ultimate team player. He knows how to play baseball. He’s a winning baseball player. He’s had the opportunity to be in big games in the playoffs and he just fits real well.”
What about the element of, you know, being good at baseball?
He also mentioned that he's a "professional hitter" which is my favorite moronic old-timey baseball scout quote.
Sill, this guy is a clubhouse leader. Big deal if he's a poor hitting designated hitter playing in the National League. Why would anyone have a problem with that?
if you plan on making the playoffs don't go get swish
Believe me, I don't want him. His best moments were in the pages of Moneyball.
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soriano trade rumor doesn't seem plausible to me...
Dude has to be going back to Texas at this point. No other option for them, I would think.
south philadelphia is apparently an option clifton.
According to who? Anthony Gargano? Greinke...gone, Napoli....gone, Upton....not an option. They need Hamilton and he wants to be there. Unless another team gets crazy, I just can't see the Rangers not signing him.
ha...i didn't even see the gargano thing on hardball until now. just going off what mlbtr posted about them willing to consider a 3 year deal. why not?
going back to texas is probably the most likely scenario since he's letting them have a chance to match any offer he gets.
but to say philly isn't an option, given ruben's penchant for making splashes and their specific need for a corner outfielder and money to spend, is not too wise.
ha...i didn't even see the gargano thing on hardball until now. just going off what mlbtr posted about them willing to consider a 3 year deal. why not?
going back to texas is probably the most likely scenario since he's letting them have a chance to match any offer he gets.
but to say philly isn't an option, given ruben's penchant for making splashes and their specific need for a corner outfielder and money to spend, is not too wise.
I'm not saying it's not an option all, I just think that after last nights trade where he ends up is pretty much sealed. He likes Texas, Texas needs him. They have money. It's only a matter of time. He's clearly been waiting on them. There are a lot of options, shit the Yankees are trying to trade Granderson, if they did that the Yankees are an option but I got my money on Texas
so josh hamilton got the same deal that howard got. haven't seen the final details, so I'm not sure if there's an option for a 6th year like howard got :roll: . I'm guessing that with the sixth year/buyout that howards deal is still worth more money. unbelievable...really is the worst contract of all time.
thank god the yanks ponied up for ichiro...that would have been yet another mistake.
so josh hamilton got the same deal that howard got. haven't seen the final details, so I'm not sure if there's an option for a 6th year like howard got :roll: . I'm guessing that with the sixth year/buyout that howards deal is still worth more money. unbelievable...really is the worst contract of all time.
thank god the yanks ponied up for ichiro...that would have been yet another mistake.
amaro is the worst
Howard contract aside (who would've thought you'd bring that up?) I'm happy to let the Angels give Hamilton 5 years. He'll probably be working on giving up tobacco down the stretch run again next year.
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so josh hamilton got the same deal that howard got. haven't seen the final details, so I'm not sure if there's an option for a 6th year like howard got :roll: . I'm guessing that with the sixth year/buyout that howards deal is still worth more money. unbelievable...really is the worst contract of all time.
thank god the yanks ponied up for ichiro...that would have been yet another mistake.
amaro is the worst
excepting of course that ryan howard is not a serial drug abuser who needs a babysitter so he doesn't get into trouble. and now put hamilton in anaheim. why don't you just move him in with Charlie Sheen and Lindsey Lohan and get it over with if you are the angels? good role model for mike trout too. :fp:
and there are lots of absurd contract these days. the lengths are insane. David Wright 7 years for a guy who they were writing off 2 years ago in new york. shane victorino getting $13 million a year for 3 years. :nono:
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the first question is the only good thing about this move. and apparently the phils wanted to EXTEND young prior to the trade being announced (thank god that young declined). you can't make this stuff up.
the second two questions are part of the problem. young and galvis had similar OPS last year...and young strength is supposed to be offense! Young's WAR was NEGATIVE 2.4 last year. That is insane. And that was with him playing mostly first base. He hasn't played third everyday since 2010 I believe. There's a reason for that...because he cannot play 3B.
Why give up two young players (bonilla is said to have future closer stuff...he was the best RP in their system) and pay 6 million for a guy who's clearly on the downside of his career?
I hate the trade. Par for the course with amaro running the show. Fire his ass
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A lot of people considered young to be the worst position player in mlb last year.
Gotta grab him if you have the chance. At least we are guaranteed some fielding comedy with two statues at the corners this year.
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definitely like the revere move more than i like the young move. but at least it's a 1 year stop gap before the young buck is hopefully ready.
waiting for the next shoe to drop. i'm not sure why they apparently aren't interested in swisher. douchebagginess aside, he's a right handed bat with pop who gets on base. wouldn't mind him in right field for next few years.
the revere trade is a mixed bag. I'm glad they didn't overpay for a free agent, but the nats gave up less to get a better player in span. why can't amaro make that kind of deal?
good for you, yeah he's a switch hitter. congrats on pointing out my mistake. thankfully there were no grammatical errors. :roll:
last 3 years his average is 30 points higher as a righty and his obp is 70 points higher as a righty. hr's are less, sure, but so are his at bats from the right side. this lineup can use that kind of production.
would you be opposed to a swisher signing? if so, who would you prefer?
Agree,the trade imo depends on what they do with the xtra cash they saved at the CF spot. I'd go 4-105 for Hamilton,but no higher in the years for sure. I hate Cody Ross,don't mind Swisher and would still love a trade for Upton. Amaro didn't make the Span deal because he was going after BJ and Pagan at that time. I think after losing out on those 2 he wanted Bourne but Borus wouldn't budge on his insane price tag. Like I said I like the Revere trade only because it frees us up for a big move.
What about the element of, you know, being good at baseball?
He also mentioned that he's a "professional hitter" which is my favorite moronic old-timey baseball scout quote.
Sill, this guy is a clubhouse leader. Big deal if he's a poor hitting designated hitter playing in the National League. Why would anyone have a problem with that?
(that's sarcasm by the way)
Believe me, I don't want him. His best moments were in the pages of Moneyball.
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i'm with you, I prefer to be optimistic, especially since spring training hasn't even started yet.
I hate pessimism.
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80 million maybe?
soriano trade rumor doesn't seem plausible to me...
Dude has to be going back to Texas at this point. No other option for them, I would think.
south philadelphia is apparently an option clifton.
According to who? Anthony Gargano? Greinke...gone, Napoli....gone, Upton....not an option. They need Hamilton and he wants to be there. Unless another team gets crazy, I just can't see the Rangers not signing him.
going back to texas is probably the most likely scenario since he's letting them have a chance to match any offer he gets.
but to say philly isn't an option, given ruben's penchant for making splashes and their specific need for a corner outfielder and money to spend, is not too wise.
I'm not saying it's not an option all, I just think that after last nights trade where he ends up is pretty much sealed. He likes Texas, Texas needs him. They have money. It's only a matter of time. He's clearly been waiting on them. There are a lot of options, shit the Yankees are trying to trade Granderson, if they did that the Yankees are an option but I got my money on Texas
that crafty fake jon heyman strikes again.
i misread your other post. i thought you were saying hamilton didnt have any other options. you were saying the rangers don't. yeah i get that.
crazier things have happened though...
5 years is too much though.
Yep, I didn't see that coming.
gotta keep your head on a swivel cilff.
thank god the yanks ponied up for ichiro...that would have been yet another mistake.
amaro is the worst
Howard contract aside (who would've thought you'd bring that up?) I'm happy to let the Angels give Hamilton 5 years. He'll probably be working on giving up tobacco down the stretch run again next year.
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excepting of course that ryan howard is not a serial drug abuser who needs a babysitter so he doesn't get into trouble. and now put hamilton in anaheim. why don't you just move him in with Charlie Sheen and Lindsey Lohan and get it over with if you are the angels? good role model for mike trout too. :fp:
and there are lots of absurd contract these days. the lengths are insane. David Wright 7 years for a guy who they were writing off 2 years ago in new york. shane victorino getting $13 million a year for 3 years. :nono:
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