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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    Welp, looks like we got a little bit of movement here...though not that rattling. Upgrade from EB anyway.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phil ... tlett.html
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Welp, looks like we got a little bit of movement here...though not that rattling. Upgrade from EB anyway.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phil ... tlett.html

    I agree with this comment on the page :

    who? we can't do better than a lifetime .230 hitter? better than bruntlett? sure...but come on. and 37 years old?
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  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    Let the winter meetings begin! I need to see some kind of roster taking shape
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    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    http://www.the700level.com/2009/12/repo ... ition.html

    EXCELLENT pickup! :thumbup:

    I know, I know - it's not the biggest deal, but I've always been a fan of this guy. Even if he was a Met and National/Expo.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    http://www.the700level.com/2009/12/report-phillies-add-local-backstop-brian-schneider-as-first-2010-addition.html

    EXCELLENT pickup! :thumbup:

    I know, I know - it's not the biggest deal, but I've always been a fan of this guy. Even if he was a Met and National/Expo.

    he is the ideal backup/part time catcher. a rock behind the plate (which is what you want with your backup catcher) and a good team leader. I like this signing a lot.

    midnight is the deadline for teams to offer free agents arbitration. we should start to see some of the big names sign in the next week or two. If polanco doesn't get offered arb by detroit, I bet the phils make a push to sign him (they won't have to forfeit a 1st round pick if he isn't offered arb).

    I also read that the phils submitted a preliminary contract proposal to beltre.

    read someone mention feliz and his feelings being hurt. um, who cares? there are 5 or 6 available upgrades at 3B. thanks for your time here pedro, now don't let the door hit you in the ass.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    detroit declined to offer polanco arbitration. this means phils can sign him without having to give up a draft pick.

    I'd still rather have beltre and/or derosa, but polanco wouldn't be a bad option. Tejada would be my fourth choice (but only if he isn't offered arbitration by ed wade...no way I'd surrender a #1 pick for him)
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    phils close to an agreement with john smoltz.

    I like it...he can start or come out of the pen
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    The Fixer wrote:
    phils close to an agreement with john smoltz.

    I like it...he can start or come out of the pen

    Where do you see that? MLBTR says they are eyeing him.

    What's their to like? He pitched 78 innings to a 6.35 ERA.
  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    The Fixer wrote:
    phils close to an agreement with john smoltz.

    I like it...he can start or come out of the pen

    dont want him
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    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited December 2009
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    phils close to an agreement with john smoltz.

    I like it...he can start or come out of the pen

    Where do you see that? MLBTR says they are eyeing him.

    What's their to like? He pitched 78 innings to a 6.35 ERA.

    that was mostly in the AL...he would be fine in the NL. what's to like? well, if he's the 5th starter, his name isn't moyer or kendrick. and if he is coming out of the pen, he'd be more effective than durbin was in a similar role last year (and he has closing experience should lidge repeat his 2009 season).

    he was also coming off a major injury last year. It would be a solid signing for the phils. low risk-high reward and the team has a lot of flexibility on how to use him.

    A better question is what's not to like?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    The Fixer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    phils close to an agreement with john smoltz.

    I like it...he can start or come out of the pen

    Where do you see that? MLBTR says they are eyeing him.

    What's their to like? He pitched 78 innings to a 6.35 ERA.

    that was mostly in the AL...he would be fine in the NL. what's to like? well, if he's the 5th starter, his name isn't moyer or kendrick. and if he is coming out of the pen, he'd be more effective than durbin was in a similar role last year.

    I am not a Phillies fan so I have no interest in this but it is not a good move.

    So, take his ERA from last year and take a run off for the switch to the NL. That's still a 5+ ERA. Not to mention the guy has pitched a total 106 innings over the last 2 years and is 42-43 years old. You want that guy to be your 5th starter?

    Put him in the pen and you have a guy that gave up almost 100 hits in 78 innings with over 10% of those being home runs. Not a good move.

    The Phillies are a better team than having Smoltz at the back end of their rotation.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    that was mostly in the AL...he would be fine in the NL. what's to like? well, if he's the 5th starter, his name isn't moyer or kendrick. and if he is coming out of the pen, he'd be more effective than durbin was in a similar role last year.[/quote]

    I am not a Phillies fan so I have no interest in this but it is not a good move.

    So, take his ERA from last year and take a run off for the switch to the NL. That's still a 5+ ERA. Not to mention the guy has pitched a total 106 innings over the last 2 years and is 42-43 years old. You want that guy to be your 5th starter?

    Put him in the pen and you have a guy that gave up almost 100 hits in 78 innings with over 10% of those being home runs. Not a good move.

    The Phillies are a better team than having Smoltz at the back end of their rotation.[/quote]

    His ERA in the NL was 4.20. He got shelled in the AL while playing in the toughest division in MLB. And, as I mentioned, he was coming off of a major injury. Once he got to STL, he pitched pretty well, albeit against weaker comp...still similar to what he'd see in the NL East.

    He'd be their 5th starter and he is much, much better than the current alternatives...moyer or kendrick

    It would be a good move for the phils and I hope it happens
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    The Fixer wrote:

    His ERA in the NL was 4.20. He got shelled in the AL while playing in the toughest division in MLB. And, as I mentioned, he was coming off of a major injury. Once he got to STL, he pitched pretty well, albeit against weaker comp...still similar to what he'd see in the NL East.

    He'd be their 5th starter and he is much, much better than the current alternatives...moyer or kendrick

    It would be a good move for the phils and I hope it happens

    That was over 38 innings, that is about as small of a sample size as you will get. His HR numbers are not going down in CBP either.

    Whatever makes you happy though.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    His ERA in the NL was 4.20. He got shelled in the AL while playing in the toughest division in MLB. And, as I mentioned, he was coming off of a major injury. Once he got to STL, he pitched pretty well, albeit against weaker comp...still similar to what he'd see in the NL East.

    He'd be their 5th starter and he is much, much better than the current alternatives...moyer or kendrick

    It would be a good move for the phils and I hope it happens

    That was over 38 innings, that is about as small of a sample size as you will get. His HR numbers are not going down in CBP either.

    Whatever makes you happy though.

    I agree about the sample size.

    I'm not saying this move wins them the pennant again. It won't cost them much and it gives them lots of flexibility as smoltz can fill multiple roles if necessary.

    As a phils fan, I really don't see the down side. If he doesn't perform well, you cut him. The risk is minimal
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    The Fixer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    His ERA in the NL was 4.20. He got shelled in the AL while playing in the toughest division in MLB. And, as I mentioned, he was coming off of a major injury. Once he got to STL, he pitched pretty well, albeit against weaker comp...still similar to what he'd see in the NL East.

    He'd be their 5th starter and he is much, much better than the current alternatives...moyer or kendrick

    It would be a good move for the phils and I hope it happens

    That was over 38 innings, that is about as small of a sample size as you will get. His HR numbers are not going down in CBP either.

    Whatever makes you happy though.

    I agree about the sample size.

    I'm not saying this move wins them the pennant again. It won't cost them much and it gives them lots of flexibility as smoltz can fill multiple roles if necessary.

    As a phils fan, I really don't see the down side. If he doesn't perform well, you cut him. The risk is minimal

    Agreed on that the fact it is a low risk move. I just think it is exactly what Boston tried last year and didn't work. We shall see if it happens.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    i like the schneider signing.....will not like a washed up smoltz signing....
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    Looking like a 2 year deal for Tumor Head, I mean Bonk, I mean Polanco. I, for one, welcome him back with open arms. He can also be an excellent spell for Utley at 2nd so Dobbs gets some AB's playing 3rd. What I like most about this deal is that leaves more money to get some heavy relief pitching. And I would see this as a key to not ruling out someone like Derosa being a super utility guy. And I have no problem with Placido playing third either since he played over 100 games in 2001 at the position before coming over here the first time, and he played it enough when he was here. It won't be a horrendous change since 2nd is more range, 3rd is more range, and I'm sure Bonk has both. What's ridiculous is this is the exact reason we trading him in the first place for a machete wielding psychotic land owner.

    They're saying Polanco would bat 2nd in the lineup, which I really can't complain about because he's an on-base machine and works pitchers like crazy, but I like Shane in the 2 spot even more because I like all that speed at the top of the lineup. Also, that way you can have more people on base at the back end of the lineup. Either way though it's not a bad problem to have. That makes a 2007 NL MVP, 2006 ALCS MVP, a World Fucking Champion, and a '05 ROY/'06 NL MVP/'09 NLCS MVP at the top of the lineup. I like.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    Signed. 3 years, 18 mill.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Signed. 3 years, 18 mill.

    yep, just has to pass the physical, which should be a formality.

    I like the signing, even though I preferred beltre. Like someone mentioned, hopefully they saved some loot to spend on the bullpen and a back of the rotation starter.

    I still think smoltz would be a positive signing.

    Also, I love having Wagner back in the division. He is a loser. And he has always been a guy that is more fun to root against than root for.

    Baseball can't get here soon enough...the other sports just don't compare
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Signed. 3 years, 18 mill.

    yep, just has to pass the physical, which should be a formality.

    I like the signing, even though I preferred beltre. Like someone mentioned, hopefully they saved some loot to spend on the bullpen and a back of the rotation starter.

    I still think smoltz would be a positive signing.

    Also, I love having Wagner back in the division. He is a loser. And he has always been a guy that is more fun to root against than root for.

    Baseball can't get here soon enough...the other sports just don't compare

    Absolutely love Wagner staying in the NL East. He's so inadequate.
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