***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    The Fixer wrote:
    figures that one of the few times this year I hope for the phils announcers I get stuck with the AZ feed. god damnit, these guys are the worst. at least it's the high def game tonight
    If the game turns into a blowout you will take back the idea that these guys suck. Grace is pure gold when it's an 8-0 game in the 7th and he starts looking for booze. I sometimes turn to D-Bag games after the Brew Crew is done.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    RW81233 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    figures that one of the few times this year I hope for the phils announcers I get stuck with the AZ feed. god damnit, these guys are the worst. at least it's the high def game tonight
    If the game turns into a blowout you will take back the idea that these guys suck. Grace is pure gold when it's an 8-0 game in the 7th and he starts looking for booze. I sometimes turn to D-Bag games after the Brew Crew is done.

    ugh. grace is excruciating. I think AZ has the worst annoucing crew in all of MLB. They are always begging fans to bring signs to games...and what does that CAR thing mean that they say?

    I avoid them at all cost
  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Nothing they do makes sense, or has any semblance of professionalism - NOTHING. Two years ago Mark Grace went on a 2-inning diatribe about how much he loved Seth McClung, and I was hooked on how stupid he was.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    RW81233 wrote:
    Nothing they do makes sense, or has any semblance of professionalism - NOTHING. Two years ago Mark Grace went on a 2-inning diatribe about how much he loved Seth McClung, and I was hooked on how stupid he was.

    haha. I guess they're an acquired taste
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    about time someone hit that cheesedick change up.

    victorino is putting together a pretty nice season
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,558
    The Fixer wrote:
    did they show the harry kalas thing on tv? how was it?

    just realized phils feed is on MLB Network. They just showed the statue. Looks pretty awesome.

    I still don't understand why the phillies didn't make something like that happen. Kinda weak a fan had to initiate and pay for the project. I'm glad something was done

    yeah i agree...but in a way it is sort of fitting that it was the fans who pitched in. for a lot of people harry was their favorite member of the phils for years. looking forward to seeing it
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    holy shit how did zack greinke get that?
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,378
    RW81233 wrote:
    holy shit how did zack greinke get that?

    Um. I don't know...


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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,378
    Looks like the d-bags have one fucked up LOOGY.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Looks like the d-bags have one fucked up LOOGY.

    should be a funny AB leading off the bottom of the 8th :D

    halladay is incredible. I should have ignored my wife and grabbed that kid when I had the chance
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    well that certainly sucked. can't believe they only got 2 runs off of that turd pitcher
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    Ouch.. :mrgreen:
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,378
    The Fixer wrote:
    well that certainly sucked. can't believe they only got 2 runs off of that turd pitcher

    Can't wait for pjhawks to tell us how much Halladay sucks. :lol:
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,558
    Ouch.. :mrgreen:


    you bet the phils didn't you? didn't you?? you sick son of a bitch! :x
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    they are blowing this series on purpose so the giants can be gone from their radar. on a side note 2nd straight drinking league win and 3rd in 4 weeks this night will not end well. Gonna be 3rd place in the league (12 players) with 3 divisional games left to play.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    RW81233 wrote:
    they are blowing this series on purpose so the giants can be gone from their radar. on a side note 2nd straight drinking league win and 3rd in 4 weeks this night will not end well. Gonna be 3rd place in the league (12 players) with 3 divisional games left to play.

    The fact that you're in a drinking league is pretty fucking awesome. Almost makes it OK that you're a cowgirls fan
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,378
    The Fixer wrote:
    RW81233 wrote:
    they are blowing this series on purpose so the giants can be gone from their radar. on a side note 2nd straight drinking league win and 3rd in 4 weeks this night will not end well. Gonna be 3rd place in the league (12 players) with 3 divisional games left to play.

    The fact that you're in a drinking league is pretty fucking awesome. Almost makes it OK that you're a cowgirls fan

    It's a drinking league on Skype, you know. :? :lol: :P
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    RW81233 wrote:
    they are blowing this series on purpose so the giants can be gone from their radar. on a side note 2nd straight drinking league win and 3rd in 4 weeks this night will not end well. Gonna be 3rd place in the league (12 players) with 3 divisional games left to play.

    The fact that you're in a drinking league is pretty fucking awesome. Almost makes it OK that you're a cowgirls fan

    It's a drinking league on Skype, you know. :? :lol: :P

    Still sounds cool.

    Schwimmer called up. Looking forward to seeing this kid pitch
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,378
    Since Fixer likes to talk about the Phillies so so records against good teams, I thought everyone would find this interesting:
    Thanks to a pitching staff that is even better than expected -- and expectations were high -- the Philadelphia Phillies are in the midst of an all-time great season. The Phils are currently on pace for 105 wins, which would tie them for ninth on the National League single-season wins list.

    With a 7 1/2-game lead in the NL East, the Phillies are on cruise control and can start looking ahead to the playoffs. While the Phils' offense is merely average (seventh in the NL in runs), their starting pitching, led by Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels, makes them clear favorites to reach the World Series.

    However, when examining the Phils' 2011 resume, there is one aspect of their performance that raises questions about their postseason chances. To succeed in October, it would stand to reason that you need to be able to beat the best. However, much of the Phillies' gaudy record is based upon the fact that they have beaten up on the worst teams.

    According to Baseball-Reference.com, the Phillies are 36-11 against teams with a winning percentage below .470. That .766 winning percentage against such clubs is by far the best in baseball. The New York Yankees, at 26-10 (.722), have the next best mark against sub.-470 teams. (I chose .470 as the cutoff because that is the winning percentage of teams that finish the season 10 games under .500.) In fact, if that .766 winning percentage holds, it would be the fourth-best mark against sub-.470 teams of the wild card era, just ahead of the 2001 Seattle Mariners, who set the record for regular season wins before flaming out in the ALCS.

    But when playing teams on pace to finish at least 10 games over .500 (.530 winning percentage), the Phillies are just 16-16. That's the sixth-best record in baseball against such clubs, and worse than their NL East rivals the Atlanta Braves. Who fares the best against .530-plus teams? That would be the Boston Red Sox, who are 24-15.

    This seems like bad news for the Phillies, because one would think a potential World Series champ would have more success against the league's best. To see if there is any truth to that hypothesis, I went back to see how the last 10 World Series champs fared against the sub-.470 and .530-plus clubs. In theory, the World Series champs should consistently perform well against the good teams, and that would be an indicator of postseason success.

    Past 10 World Series Champions
    YEAR TEAM Win pct against sub-.470 teams Win pct against .530-plus teams
    2010 Giants .714 .426
    2009 Yankees .691 .566
    2008 Phillies .686 .482
    2007 Red Sox .676 .517
    2006 Cardinals .557 .440
    2005 White Sox .742 .510
    2004 Red Sox .698 .567
    2003 Marlins .638 .484
    2002 Angels .743 .451
    2001 D-backs .655 .494

    As it turns out, that's not really the case at all. The World Series champs, with the exception of the 2006 Cardinals, have all beat the snot out of the sub-.470 clubs, and even the Cards fared pretty well. The champs' performance against the .530-plus clubs, however, has varied widely. Just last year, the Giants had the best record in baseball against the sub-.470 teams (35-14), but the 15th-best mark (20-27) versus the .530-plus.

    It's not surprising that the World Series champs would beat up on the bad teams. The ability to do so consistently, in fact, is typically the sign of a strong team. However, you would expect World Series champs to fare well against good squads during the regular season, and that hasn't happened this century.

    In fact, beating up on the weaklings seems to be a better indicator of postseason success. To wit: the 1998 New York Yankees, the team many consider the best in recent history, went 52-12 against sub-.470 teams, which is the best mark of the wild card era.

    If recent history is any guide, the Phils' remarkable record against poor squads says more about their title chances than their pedestrian record against good teams. So if you want nit-pick something regarding their World Series hopes, you'll have to look elsewhere.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,432
    Since Fixer likes to talk about the Phillies so so records against good teams, I thought everyone would find this interesting:
    Thanks to a pitching staff that is even better than expected -- and expectations were high -- the Philadelphia Phillies are in the midst of an all-time great season. The Phils are currently on pace for 105 wins, which would tie them for ninth on the National League single-season wins list.

    With a 7 1/2-game lead in the NL East, the Phillies are on cruise control and can start looking ahead to the playoffs. While the Phils' offense is merely average (seventh in the NL in runs), their starting pitching, led by Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels, makes them clear favorites to reach the World Series.

    However, when examining the Phils' 2011 resume, there is one aspect of their performance that raises questions about their postseason chances. To succeed in October, it would stand to reason that you need to be able to beat the best. However, much of the Phillies' gaudy record is based upon the fact that they have beaten up on the worst teams.

    According to Baseball-Reference.com, the Phillies are 36-11 against teams with a winning percentage below .470. That .766 winning percentage against such clubs is by far the best in baseball. The New York Yankees, at 26-10 (.722), have the next best mark against sub.-470 teams. (I chose .470 as the cutoff because that is the winning percentage of teams that finish the season 10 games under .500.) In fact, if that .766 winning percentage holds, it would be the fourth-best mark against sub-.470 teams of the wild card era, just ahead of the 2001 Seattle Mariners, who set the record for regular season wins before flaming out in the ALCS.

    But when playing teams on pace to finish at least 10 games over .500 (.530 winning percentage), the Phillies are just 16-16. That's the sixth-best record in baseball against such clubs, and worse than their NL East rivals the Atlanta Braves. Who fares the best against .530-plus teams? That would be the Boston Red Sox, who are 24-15.

    This seems like bad news for the Phillies, because one would think a potential World Series champ would have more success against the league's best. To see if there is any truth to that hypothesis, I went back to see how the last 10 World Series champs fared against the sub-.470 and .530-plus clubs. In theory, the World Series champs should consistently perform well against the good teams, and that would be an indicator of postseason success.

    Past 10 World Series Champions
    YEAR TEAM Win pct against sub-.470 teams Win pct against .530-plus teams
    2010 Giants .714 .426
    2009 Yankees .691 .566
    2008 Phillies .686 .482
    2007 Red Sox .676 .517
    2006 Cardinals .557 .440
    2005 White Sox .742 .510
    2004 Red Sox .698 .567
    2003 Marlins .638 .484
    2002 Angels .743 .451
    2001 D-backs .655 .494

    As it turns out, that's not really the case at all. The World Series champs, with the exception of the 2006 Cardinals, have all beat the snot out of the sub-.470 clubs, and even the Cards fared pretty well. The champs' performance against the .530-plus clubs, however, has varied widely. Just last year, the Giants had the best record in baseball against the sub-.470 teams (35-14), but the 15th-best mark (20-27) versus the .530-plus.

    It's not surprising that the World Series champs would beat up on the bad teams. The ability to do so consistently, in fact, is typically the sign of a strong team. However, you would expect World Series champs to fare well against good squads during the regular season, and that hasn't happened this century.

    In fact, beating up on the weaklings seems to be a better indicator of postseason success. To wit: the 1998 New York Yankees, the team many consider the best in recent history, went 52-12 against sub-.470 teams, which is the best mark of the wild card era.

    If recent history is any guide, the Phils' remarkable record against poor squads says more about their title chances than their pedestrian record against good teams. So if you want nit-pick something regarding their World Series hopes, you'll have to look elsewhere.

    interesting read. still think the playoffs are somewhat of a crap shoot and have more to do with being healthy and hot at the right time.

    one stat i'd love to see is has any team every had 3 pitchers in the top 5 in innings pitched win the World Series. I imagine maybe the Braves when they won it but hard to believe anyone else has done it. Hopefully come Semtember Charlie will have some balls to pull Roy and Cliff and not pitch them until their arms fall off.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjhawks wrote:
    interesting read. still think the playoffs are somewhat of a crap shoot and have more to do with being healthy and hot at the right time.

    one stat i'd love to see is has any team every had 3 pitchers in the top 5 in innings pitched win the World Series. I imagine maybe the Braves when they won it but hard to believe anyone else has done it. Hopefully come Semtember Charlie will have some balls to pull Roy and Cliff and not pitch them until their arms fall off.

    I agree that the playoffs are pretty much a crapshoot. As good as the phils have been, I still think their lineup and bullpen make them vulnerable in a playoff series.

    As for the pitchers...I wouldn't count on charlie to do anything that makes sense in regards to innings. See his handling of mike stutes :roll:
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    As for manuel...

    I do agree with him leaving halladay in for the 9th inning last night. The thing that bothered me was that he didn't have anyone up in the bullpen until their were runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs. I guess it would have made too much sense to have someone ready in case halladay (who had thrown around 110-115 pitches by then) got in trouble. By the time he had madson and bastardo ready it was too late.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,432
    The Fixer wrote:
    As for manuel...

    I do agree with him leaving halladay in for the 9th inning last night. The thing that bothered me was that he didn't have anyone up in the bullpen until their were runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs. I guess it would have made too much sense to have someone ready in case halladay (who had thrown around 110-115 pitches by then) got in trouble. By the time he had madson and bastardo ready it was too late.

    agree but once Charlie sent him out for the 9th he had no intention of ever taking him out. he honestly doesn't have the balls to come out and take Halladay out i don't think. but hey if losing 2 out of 3 in the series moves the Giants further from the playoffs i'm all for it. i can't stand that team. and i think the phils are due for a little lull here. the excitement of the trade deadline and the Pence move is over, their basically a lock for the playoffs so i can see some going through the motions over the next few weeks.
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The last time a team won the WS with the best record in Baseball...1986 ?!?!

    :(
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,730
    The last time a team won the WS with the best record in Baseball...1986 ?!?!

    :(

    Ahh, 2009.
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The last time a team won the WS with the best record in Baseball...1986 ?!?!

    :(

    Ahh, 2009.


    NL team maybe ?

    :D
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,730
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The last time a team won the WS with the best record in Baseball...1986 ?!?!

    :(

    Ahh, 2009.


    NL team maybe ?

    :D

    Yeah, probably. Yanks clearly has the best record in '98 too.
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Yeah, probably. Yanks clearly has the best record in '98 too.

    It must be

    I just heard it quick on sports talk
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,378
    Here are all the teams that have won at least 103 games and how their season ended up. I think 15 of 46 won the World Series. But 6 didn't play any playoff games - so 15 of 40 who played in playoffs won WS.

    Team - Year - Wins Result
    Chicago Cubs - 1906 – 116 Lost WS to Cubs 4-2
    Seattle Mariners - 2001 – 116 Lost ALCS to Yankees 4-1
    New York Yankees - 1998 – 114 Won WS over Padres 4-0
    Cleveland Indians - 1954 – 111 Lost WS to Giants 4-0
    Pittsburgh Pirates - 1909 – 110 Won WS over Tigers 4-3
    New York Yankees - 1927 – 110 Won WS over Pirates 4-0
    New York Yankees - 1961 – 109 Won WS over Reds 4-1
    Baltimore Orioles - 1969 – 109 Lost WS to Mets 4-1
    Baltimore Orioles - 1970 – 108 Won WS over Reds 4-1
    Cincinnati Reds - 1975 – 108 Won WS over Red Sox 4-3
    New York Mets - 1986 – 108 Won WS over Red Sox 4-3
    Chicago Cubs - 1907 – 107 Won WS over Tigers 4-0-1
    Philadelphia Athletics - 1931 – 107 Lost WS to Cardinals 4-3
    New York Yankees - 1932 – 107 Won WS over Cubs 4-0
    New York Giants - 1904 – 106 No World Series
    New York Yankees - 1939 – 106 Won WS over Reds 4-0
    St. Louis Cardinals - 1942 – 106 Won WS over Yankees 4-1
    Atlanta Braves - 1998 – 106 Lost NLCS to Padres 4-2
    New York Giants - 1905 – 105 Won WS over Athletics 4-1
    Boston Red Sox - 1912 – 105 Won WS over Giants 4-3-1
    St. Louis Cardinals - 1943 – 105 Lost WS to Yankees 4-1
    St. Louis Cardinals - 1944 – 105 Won WS over Browns 4-2
    Brooklyn Dodgers - 1953 – 105 Lost WS to Yankees 4-2
    St. Louis Cardinals - 2004 – 105 Lost WS to Red Sox 4-0
    Chicago Cubs - 1909 – 104 2nd place in NL
    Chicago Cubs - 1910 – 104 Lost WS to Athletics 4-1
    Philadelphia Athletics - 1929 – 104 Won WS over Cubs 4-1
    Brooklyn Dodgers - 1942 – 104 2nd place in NL
    Boston Red Sox - 1946 – 104 Lost WS to Cardinals 4-3
    New York Yankees - 1963 – 104 Lost WS to Dodgers 4-0
    Detroit Tigers - 1984 – 104 Won WS over Padres 4-1
    Oakland Athletics - 1988 – 104 Lost WS to Dodgers 4-1
    Atlanta Braves - 1993 – 104 Lost NLCS to Phillies 4-2
    Pittsburgh Pirates - 1902 – 103 No World Series
    New York Giants - 1912 – 103 Lost WS to Red Sox 4-3
    New York Yankees - 1942 – 103 Lost WS to Cardinals 4-1
    New York Yankees - 1954 – 103 2nd place in AL
    San Francisco Giants - 1962 – 103 Lost WS to Yankees 4-3
    Detroit Tigers - 1968 – 103 Won WS over Cardinals 4-3
    New York Yankees - 1980 – 103 Lost ALCS to Royals 3-0
    Oakland Athletics - 1990 – 103 Lost WS to Reds 4-0
    San Francisco Giants - 1993 – 103 2nd place in NL West
    Atlanta Braves - 1999 – 103 Lost WS to Yankees 4-0
    New York Yankees - 2002 – 103 Lost Div Series to Angels 3-1
    Oakland Athletics - 2002 – 103 Lost Div Series to Twins 3-2
    New York Yankees - 2009 – 103 Won WS over Phillies 4-2
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,730
    And what does all of this tell you? Nada. Wait and see fellas, am sure you are getting anxious but you guys obviously have the best shot at it.
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