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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    I'm willing to give hamels a pass for '09 because of his workload in '08 (big deal for younger pitchers)

    I could care less about individual awards.

    I will always root for howard as long as he's on the phils. I would never boo him either. He's accomplished way too much here and was an integral piece of them winning in '08. unfortunately he could also be the biggest scapegoat in the '09 WS and '10 playoffs. I know he's loved in philly, but the guy is flat out overrated.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    edited April 2011
    The Fixer wrote:
    I'm willing to give hamels a pass for '09 because of his workload in '08 (big deal for younger pitchers)

    I could care less about individual awards.

    I will always root for howard as long as he's on the phils. I would never boo him either. He's accomplished way too much here and was an integral piece of them winning in '08. unfortunately he could also be the biggest scapegoat in the '09 WS and '10 playoffs. I know he's loved in philly, but the guy is flat out overrated.

    oh my god. you and your "individual awards." :lol: :roll: then forget about the trophy howard won in the 09 nlcs. substitue that for the way he played for the trophy instead (which was the point). :lol: jesus dude. the phils very well wouldn't have gotten to the ws that year without the way he played against the dodgers and rockies.

    and again, i could give a shit about people being booed. shit's been going on well before i got here and will go on well after i'm gone.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,371
    Howard carried the team into the 2009 World Series. He just couldn't figure out Damaso Marte. It happens. It's a game of matchups. In 2010 playoffs he was injured - maybe he shouldn't have been playing.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Howard carried the team into the 2009 World Series. He just couldn't figure out Damaso Marte. It happens. It's a game of matchups. In 2010 playoffs he was injured - maybe he shouldn't have been playing.

    'just get me to the plate boys" is one of my alltime favorite phillies moments. that team was close to being dead before that inning.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,371
    The Juggler wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Howard carried the team into the 2009 World Series. He just couldn't figure out Damaso Marte. It happens. It's a game of matchups. In 2010 playoffs he was injured - maybe he shouldn't have been playing.

    'just get me to the plate boys" is one of my alltime favorite phillies moments. that team was close to being dead before that inning.

    Those 2 wins in Denver are 2 of the most underrated games in Phils history. My sister & bro-in-law were there freezing their asses off & rooting for the Rox. :lol:
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,371
    dr0ptheleash wrote:
    It's so nice to see Howard's bat making moves. Francisco has been on fire, too. Not sure how long it's going to last, but I'll take it. Also nice to see Chooch making an appearance :D

    By the way, nice to have some new folks on here. First thing you need to do is choose your side in the Great Ten Club Philadelphia Ryan Howard Debate. :lol:
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    dr0ptheleash wrote:
    It's so nice to see Howard's bat making moves. Francisco has been on fire, too. Not sure how long it's going to last, but I'll take it. Also nice to see Chooch making an appearance :D

    By the way, nice to have some new folks on here. First thing you need to do is choose your side in the Great Ten Club Philadelphia Ryan Howard Debate. :lol:

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Howard carried the team into the 2009 World Series. He just couldn't figure out Damaso Marte. It happens. It's a game of matchups. In 2010 playoffs he was injured - maybe he shouldn't have been playing.

    'just get me to the plate boys" is one of my alltime favorite phillies moments. that team was close to being dead before that inning.

    Those 2 wins in Denver are 2 of the most underrated games in Phils history. My sister & bro-in-law were there freezing their asses off & rooting for the Rox. :lol:

    agreed. underrated because of how the season ultimately ended, and because of being wfc the year before. but yeah, those games were as intense as baseball gets.

    that's awesome your sis was able to go to it.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,371
    The Juggler wrote:
    agreed. underrated because of how the season ultimately ended, and because of being wfc the year before. but yeah, those games were as intense as baseball gets.

    that's awesome your sis was able to go to it.

    Wife and I were at 2007 Games 1 & 2 (this year is known in our house as the Great Lost Phillies Playoff Ticket Event), and 2009 Game 2, so we are 0-3 in playoff games vs. Rox. But they are 0-2 in Rox games vs. Phils.
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    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,371
    Always a good feeling when Doc is on the mound. 8-)
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    Johnny, wait, why's your sister a Rockies fan?
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    dr0ptheleash wrote:
    It's so nice to see Howard's bat making moves. Francisco has been on fire, too. Not sure how long it's going to last, but I'll take it. Also nice to see Chooch making an appearance :D

    By the way, nice to have some new folks on here. First thing you need to do is choose your side in the Great Ten Club Philadelphia Ryan Howard Debate. :lol:
    How any Philly sports fan can dislike him is beyond me. Production is not appreciated by all and it blows my mind.
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Funny thing is that a bad year is 31hrs 108 rbi's and a 276 avg. That tells me that the man must be damn good to have those numbers be considered bad.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    Oh boy, here we go again. I don't think anyone here dislikes him (aside from me), they just understand that he is incredibly overrated.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Oh boy, here we go again. I don't think anyone here dislikes him (aside from me), they just understand that he is incredibly overrated.

    Concrete in. the. ears.

    Cliff, you happen to see if those dvd's worked?
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    edited April 2011
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Oh boy, here we go again. I don't think anyone here dislikes him (aside from me), they just understand that he is incredibly overrated.
    Just making a comment not talking about anyone by name just an observation. You should dislike him and overrated because of a contract makes no sense. Just like the Werth contract is he worth that much,no but what should they do not take it? Did Howard under produce compared to years past,for sure.
    Post edited by jamminpearls on
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Oh boy, here we go again. I don't think anyone here dislikes him (aside from me), they just understand that he is incredibly overrated.

    Concrete in. the. ears.

    Cliff, you happen to see if those dvd's worked?

    Dude, I completely forgot to tell you this. My fucking landlord picked up the mail that piles up and took them like a moron. Says he has it and has said he is going to drop them off 20 times now, but hasn't yet. The first shitty thing this landlord has done. I will let you know. Can't believe I forgot to mention this to you.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Oh boy, here we go again. I don't think anyone here dislikes him (aside from me), they just understand that he is incredibly overrated.
    Just making a comment not talking about anyone by name just an observation. You should dislike him and overrated because of a contract makes no sense.

    I don't care about the shitty contract, not on my team so it makes no difference to me. I don't like him because I don't think he's that good and I have no reason to like him. I don't enjoy watching him play like I do other good baseball players. It's all or nothing with him and thats boring to me.

    Edit: Obviously he should take the contract, it was offered. Just like the shitty Arod contract. I don't fault him one bit for it, in fact I appalud him, but what it does is put him in a category of players that he does not belong with.
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Oh boy, here we go again. I don't think anyone here dislikes him (aside from me), they just understand that he is incredibly overrated.
    Just making a comment not talking about anyone by name just an observation. You should dislike him and overrated because of a contract makes no sense.

    I don't care about the shitty contract, not on my team so it makes no difference to me. I don't like him because I don't think he's that good and I have no reason to like him. I don't enjoy watching him play like I do other good baseball players. It's all or nothing with him and thats boring to me.

    That makes sense even though i don't think it's all or nothing but were both allowed to have an opinion.
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Oh boy, here we go again. I don't think anyone here dislikes him (aside from me), they just understand that he is incredibly overrated.
    Just making a comment not talking about anyone by name just an observation. You should dislike him and overrated because of a contract makes no sense.

    I don't care about the shitty contract, not on my team so it makes no difference to me. I don't like him because I don't think he's that good and I have no reason to like him. I don't enjoy watching him play like I do other good baseball players. It's all or nothing with him and thats boring to me.

    Edit: Obviously he should take the contract, it was offered. Just like the shitty Arod contract. I don't fault him one bit for it, in fact I appalud him, but what it does is put him in a category of players that he does not belong with.
    Name me your top 5 power hitters in baseball.
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